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☛ Official ☚ [Mushrooms Subthread] Different Strains & Cultivation

Is it true that some batches of 'shrooms are a lot better than others? I'm just wondering because I frequently hear people say things like "kinda crappy shrooms", "average shrooms", and "dank shrooms", and I don't eat them enough to know if it's true or not. I'm not talking about little differences; they talk about it like the range of quality is almost as diverse as pot.
 
^ definitely. both overall % of alkaloids and proportion of psilocin to psilocybin to other alkaloids varies according to strain and batch
 
It's a baby! said:
Is it true that some batches of 'shrooms are a lot better than others? I'm just wondering because I frequently hear people say things like "kinda crappy shrooms", "average shrooms", and "dank shrooms", and I don't eat them enough to know if it's true or not. I'm not talking about little differences; they talk about it like the range of quality is almost as diverse as pot.
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I have had shrooms where an 1/8 gives a mild +1 trip and I have had shrooms where an 1/8 left me at complete ego loss and stripped me down to my bare being. Pay attention to the various strains and their rations of psilocin and psilocybin. Erowid has a list.
 
It's a baby! said:
Is it true that some batches of 'shrooms are a lot better than others? I'm just wondering because I frequently hear people say things like "kinda crappy shrooms", "average shrooms", and "dank shrooms", and I don't eat them enough to know if it's true or not. I'm not talking about little differences; they talk about it like the range of quality is almost as diverse as pot.
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Yeah. But it also depends on how they were grown. They say that poop-grown shrooms are more potent (don't know if this is true or not...)! Potency is also loss during the drying process, more or less depending how you dry them (putting them into an oven compared to a desiccant chamber.)
 
It's a baby! said:
Is it true that some batches of 'shrooms are a lot better than others? I'm just wondering because I frequently hear people say things like "kinda crappy shrooms", "average shrooms", and "dank shrooms", and I don't eat them enough to know if it's true or not. I'm not talking about little differences; they talk about it like the range of quality is almost as diverse as pot.
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Yes, it varies. Like most growing things, there are differences from shroom to shroom in things like alkaloid levels and (never enough discussion about this!!) genetics. It also varies based on the nutritional content of the growing substrate. Pretty Diamonds mentioned horse poo. Hpoo is a pretty nutritious substrate, compared to something like BRF cakes. It just depends... However, I'm not sure there's anything that says hpoo is any better than, say, a really good casing mix. Personal preference plays a big part too...

Also, shroom size matters. Mushrooms produce their active alkaloids in the early stages of growth. Allowing a shroom to get bigger will not make it contain more goodies. An 1/8 ounce of aborts (primordia that started to grow and then stopped for whatever reason) will smash you harder than one big mushroom that weighs an 1/8. At that point it kind of depends on your dealer (or grower, if your dealer is just a middle man). If someone's only concern is selling weight to make more money, then they'll grow their shrooms larger. Granted, it's just a likely that if someone's concern is QUALITY to get repeat business, then they'll pick their shrooms before the caps open.
 
moclobemide is superoir to rue/caapi in many ways. it is a reversible MAOI that mainly affects MAO A. therefore you don't have to hold a diet if you plan on taking moclobemid (as long as you don't eat ridiculous amounts of tyramine containing food). also it is reported to cause less nausea. i can't comment on the subjective effects of moclobemide vs. rue/caapi as i have tried neither. i would love to try moclobemide with dmt though; it's a pity that it's not more available…
 
Black said:
moclobemide is superoir to rue/caapi in many ways. it is a reversible MAOI that mainly affects MAO A. therefore you don't have to hold a diet if you plan on taking moclobemid (as long as you don't eat ridiculous amounts of tyramine containing food). also it is reported to cause less nausea. i can't comment on the subjective effects of moclobemide vs. rue/caapi as i have tried neither. i would love to try moclobemide with dmt though; it's a pity that it's not more available…
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I thought it was MAO A that gave problems when mixed with tyramine-rich foods?
 
Wait until it is raining for a day or so then go the next day (early morning).

Watch out for cops! A friend got busted once for trespassing (he thankfully dumped his shrooms before!).

Check out the website the shroomery for lots of good mushroom hunting tips (honestly BL cannot compete with that website when it comes to this subject).

peace!
samadhi
 
samadhi_smiles said:
extra protein, my friend!

You're gonna need energy on your trip, ya know?!
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Yucky poo. Plus- I'm a vegetarian- good excuse. :! Scawy alright....:)

The Wizard, why don't you just extra mushrooms/insert-psychedelic-drug-here instead of dangerously trying to potentiate them? Messing with the MAO system is not particualrly safe. I'm sure you can see that, on a harm REDUCTION site, its pretty silly to keep asking for dangerous methods of strengthening a trip....? No offenece, but it seems that you don't have much of an idea on brain chemistry and physiology, besdes what you've read, but you need to read WHY these things are happening. I mean, putting mushrooms in lemon juice, and speaking about the 'science' behind it- its citric acid man- from a citrus fruit. Thats the idea, whether erroneous or not. Anyway, I'm just suggesting you take it easy with all these chemicals- obviously keep asking 'biut your proposed combo's, but expect a lot of similar replies.
 
hey bl'ers i got a simple yet stupid question:

If i was to get cow droppings from a farm and plant that shit on my lawn ( where other normal non-psy unknown shrooms grow ) , would this possibly sprout some psy shrooms?

please state yes or no and WHY

this would be greatly apprisiated as its been lurking on my mind for ages now,

thank you :)
 
Nope, probably not. Although psilocybe mushrooms do grow on cow dung on occasion, that certainly doesn't mean that every cow pie grows them. Also, it really depends on your geographic region as to whether they grow there at all. Your best bet is to order some spores and grow them yourself indoors. It's really easy.
 
butane said:
Nope, probably not. Although psilocybe mushrooms do grow on cow dung on occasion, that certainly doesn't mean that every cow pie grows them. Also, it really depends on your geographic region as to whether they grow there at all. Your best bet is to order some spores and grow them yourself indoors. It's really easy.
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+ 1... I would say it is HIGHLY unlikely that you would just magically start growing psy. mushrooms simply because you put some cow shit in your yard.:\ sorry.


Perhaps if you found a psychadelic cow and got THAT cows shit then that would probably work. lol

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thx butane! that clearled alot of mystry up.

I dont think they let spore through australian customs, thats my main concern.

My geographic location+climat and "if they grow there at all" is both yes, i was in dbout weather they grow all the time in cow shit.

argh im so noob.. :) ill give it a shot anyway, never hurts to try.


Edit: Keep in mind the weather,climate,season,If they grow there at all, are all Yes.I just wanted to shift the thing that creates it ( cow droppings?) onto my property as im going to theive some from the farms near by. hope that makes sence :)

Thanks for the feedback butane & karma
ps:
awesome cow ;)
 
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^ Cow droppings don't "create" anything, they just act as fertilizer. Mushrooms don't just magically appear in cow dung, they grow from fungi that have to be present in the soil underneath.
 
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