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most mind altering drug

also like the third time i did drugs, i ate a little bit of shrooms(enough to give me the "high" but not actualy trip) and smoked weed, i crawled into the trunk of a car and was talking to the people outside gibberish about "raverobot" and how this combo should becalled "donut shopping"
 
From personal experience (quite small with psychedelics) I would say Ketamine.
It has pushed my "I" into a direction I did not even think it could be pushed, or at least one I did not think about.
It is a very interesting experience of conciosness change in my opinion.
 
I once took 500mg dxm, 2 grams shrooms, and smoked marijuana with them both together. It was alright, but the insanity of everything made that the most mind altering combo I've ever experienced.
I'd say for me the most mind altering is shrooms. They just turn my whole world inside out and upside down. Deleriants fuck you up more in that you see shit that's not there and indistinguishable from reality, but that's not really a recreational altering.
 
I would think a good DMT hit would be the most powerful I've ever seen, but I dunno, I haven't tried it nor any of the more serious drugs out there.
 
dropping a tab of acid and soking a bowl full of the best pot i have ever had, after a heaving night of drinking was by far the strongest physcadelic effect i have ever felt. i have tripped on acid, mushrooms, salvia, and dmt before, almost all of them on high dosages, but nothing even comes close to my experience. the strongest hallucinations, huge paralxs and matrixs of numbers and colors swirling and diving flying up close and then zooming away. at times i couldnt see at all because i was hallucinating so hard. at the peak, i didnt know where or who i was(effects similar to salvia). i somehow made it to the bed that my girlfriend was sleeping in and she became my angel, talking to me and helping to sooth my racing mind and awesome(i mean this in the literary way) hallucinations. i have not done acid again and the effect was enough to make me quit drinking for a month and to stay in the next weekend, watching movies and talking with my family. to be honest, i dont know if it was just an extremely dense dose of acid(perhaps the bottom of the sheet when dipped) or if the comedown effects of the alcohol and marijuana caused the physchadelic experince to take off in the way that it did.
 
In my opinion the most mind altering drug is changing your mind/body/soul's perspective as quickly and DRAMATICALLY as is posible.
[ 21 September 2002: Message edited by: Curious_George ]
 
OK... I guess It's time I break my silence in this thread.
Injecting 110mg of ketamine, then as quickly as the IM needle comes out of the flesh, the glass pipe containing 85mg of DMT is put to the lips and the plasticy vapors are inhaled... Withing seconds the spirit is catapulted from its body at the speed of thought, out of this world into God's land.
One could argue that it is a trip that the individual never truly returns from 100%.
SG
 
My imput on this thread:
800mgs DXM + 3 cups of shroom tea + 2 vicodins + weed was a really insane trip that I'll never fully remember.
Salvia in and of itself.
2 1/2 hits of E + 3 pills of Adderall + 1/2 Ounce of Amanita Muscaria + Paxil, Zyprexa, Klonopin, Weed, and Salvia to top the evening off. (My most amazing night possibly).
800mgs DXM + 2 shots of liquor + weed + knocking myself out was completely mind shattering and I've never been the same. As one person has said previously, knocking yourself out is like re-living your entire life in the flash of a second. It's truly beyond words.
Or straight up 5.5g of shrooms.. I couldn't tell what was going on at all because my vision was so distorted.
I think Dreams take the cake though. They can take you places you've never imagined possible..
 
Why on earth did you add paxil, and even more zyprexa to that combo?
I can't imagine having fun with zyprexa, it always made me feel like a horrible, awful, tired mess. But hey, if it works for you... :)
 
not entirely sure either =) I was on a rampage that night and was basically taking anything I had.. not my smartest move.
 
Dxm can always greatly alter my mind. Dpt does a pretty good job as well. Gotta go with nitrous too. Can't forget salvia!
 
800mg DXM has definitely put me in my most insane state. My first time (and luckily I didn't do it many more times) I had the most extreme case of "it made sense at the time" that I have ever had. False logic probably doesn't compare to full-on ego loss, though.
 
^^^
its cool that you mention false logic
i think that term needs to be recoined, to like altered logic or something - as i dont really believe in "false" or "true" logic anymore.
 
Originally posted by Sebastians_ghost:
Injecting 110mg of ketamine, then as quickly as the IM needle comes out of the flesh, the glass pipe containing 85mg of DMT is put to the lips and the plasticy vapors are inhaled...
120 mg of ketamine IM and waiting 10 minutes for the ketamine to take hold before smoking DMT, and I would certainly agree with you.
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Originally posted by stardreamer:
^^^
its cool that you mention false logic
i think that term needs to be recoined, to like altered logic or something - as i dont really believe in "false" or "true" logic anymore.
Makes more sense. I wasn't concentrating too much on my wordings at the time ;)
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Hehe I know what you mean.
After reading zen for so long now, it's hard to get back into classifications and proven logic again - even if it is a required part of my life :)
But just another cool thing about ego/logic altering drugs, who is to say what is "right or wrong" if the meaning is almost impossible to comprehend sober.
Ah but I'm stoned and rambling again :D
 
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