Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 2.0

[Crankinit]

She has relapsed and used about once a year since then but has not become a regular user again.

I wouldn't really consider it a ''relapse'' if she's managing to keep it to once a year and within reasonable limits. Not having a go at you personally, but I hate how much this whole culture of 12 step and abstinence ideology has overcome the drug using population. If she's getting high twice a year and it's otherwise causing no problems, I wouldn't say she's ''relapsed,'' just gone back to casual use. It happens.

Not so much true mate. Meth maybe meth but sore and meth are 2 different types of amphet.
I believe that the white powdery speed poledriver is referring to is amphetamine sulphate which is a white powder that looks similar to coke and is snorted, eaten or injected.
Methamphetamine is more potent and in crystal or liquid (base) form. Which is eaten, snorted, injected or plugged or whatever
Amphetamine sulphate isn't common in Australia, in fact it's pretty rare. 9/10 when you buy "speed" that's powdery in aus it's cut to shit with glucose or paracetamol or some powder methamphetamine. Since poledriver is a seasoned vet I presume he would be talking about amphet sulphate. I'm pretty sure years and years back it was available in Australia more than now.
I know I used to get it back in the early 2000s. I prefer sulphate to meth, I find it to be cleaner and doesn't last for ages like meth does.

I don't know about a decade ago, but I know a study in the last year or two showed that literally all the ''speed'' seized by the cops in the country is actually methamphetamine. I've tried the white powdery stuff (my mate in Sydney called it 'gas,' doesn't seem to exist here in SA) and it felt just like meth to me. Dipped my finger in a bag with a gram or two at a festival and washed it down, gave a nice buzz for for the day.

 

[abracadabra girl]

I wouldn't really consider it a ''relapse'' if she's managing to keep it to once a year and within reasonable limits. Not having a go at you personally, but I hate how much this whole culture of 12 step and abstinence ideology has overcome the drug using population. If she's getting high twice a year and it's otherwise causing no problems, I wouldn't say she's ''relapsed,'' just gone back to casual use. It happens..

I understand. She calls it a relapse and I didn't think before repeating it. BTW forgot to mention it's been 6-7 years for her.

 

[motiv311]

Over 3 weeks, but really I think its more like two months.... How long have you been using?

The science would say 30 days of daily usage creates a "habit", just like you can create "good habits" like doing yoga everyday.... that means your mind AND body are starting to depend and rely on it.

Its better that you stop for at least 6-months to a year right away if you wanna have a chance of a good long "flirt" type relationship with meth. Basically thats what I've strived to do for the last ten years, but its easier for me because I have an adderall script.

I move to Utah a lot, for like 5-50 months at a time... Don't have any hookups there, and I'm a musician , thats why I do it, my other band lives out there and Im born mormon true blue : )

stop now, so can have the FREEDOM to use in the future. make sense?

 

[motiv311]

3OAKS---

Over 3 weeks, but really I think its more like two months.... How long have you been using?

The science would say 30 days of daily usage creates a "habit", just like you can create "good habits" like doing yoga everyday.... that means your mind AND body are starting to depend and rely on it.

Its better that you stop for at least 6-months to a year right away if you wanna have a chance of a good long "flirt" type relationship with meth. Basically thats what I've strived to do for the last ten years, but its easier for me because I have an adderall script.

I move to Utah a lot, for like 5-50 months at a time... Don't have any hookups there, and I'm a musician , thats why I do it, my other band lives out there and Im born mormon true blue : )

stop now, so can have the FREEDOM to use in the future. make sense?

 

[Alice_Chipper]

Thanks Christ! I agree most people are less likely to judge & stigmatise here but I still see it in covert & overt ways in some posts. My research field is 'harm reduction' for people who inject meth & the biggest harm I see is from the societal msgs which inflict social & self stigma, fear & isolation. People do not want to publicly admit they inject meth & the "normal" experiences are silenced in dominant discourses. They are a hidden population & until it is safe for people to be speak up we will continue drawing conclusions from the most visible users (those in crisis) that fuels the mainstream moral pamic. I write these posts here because I hope like-minded people can help change this. Revaluation is a big driver for me.

Personally, I inject meth every now again. Maybe once or twice a month. I have no problems whatsoever. I have accumulated tips from 'functional' users if you are interersted in & want to contribute too.
Thanks for giving me your thoughts too.

 

[Alice_Chipper]

I'm more talking about having good balanced info for anyone considering taking gear by a different ROA for the first time. Needs to be WAY more emphasis on how addictive smoking can be, but at the same time IVing meth shouldn't be taken lightly. It's possible to use responsibly but if someone were asking me what my advice would be I'd tell them to avoid smoking and IV use, stick to oral dosing.

PS Smoking is definitely more socially acceptable but not eveyone can hack it given its potency & the tendency to have multiple doses. I smoked it back inthe day & it was something I did have problems with. I know smokers with no probs though. When I first started using I mixed it into a drink & it was fine. My advice to new users is dip your toes in first but if they want to inject or smoke to first research peer harm reduction strategies beforehand and put rules in place to keep it a positive experience (such as never lose more than 1 night of sleep, have a preplanned activitg for the high & chilling out... etc).

 

[motiv311]

^ i think people who say they consistently shoot meth only twice a month, are kidding themselves and bullshiting us, so for the other 27 days in a month you just don't touch meth???? hmmmmm I say BS

Everyone thinks they will be the perfect drug user with meth and not get addicted, going into it.... only to find that they are the same as everyone else and one way or another , it worms its way into your EVERYDAY EXISTENSE

 

[doofqueen]

Im coming up to 6wks clean and i think about it every day. This is a mental monster. Before bed is the worst. I picture the whole process of getting it ready. Doing the deed and i physically feel my throat getting hot and my heart beats faster but no rush. Im worried i wont stay clean and i really want to be. I want the thoughts to stop :-(

 

[Alice_Chipper]

^ i think people who say they consistently shoot meth only twice a month, are kidding themselves and bullshiting us, so for the other 27 days in a month you just don't touch meth???? hmmmmm I say BS

Everyone thinks they will be the perfect drug user with meth and not get addicted, going into it.... only to find that they are the same as everyone else and one way or another , it worms its way into your EVERYDAY EXISTENSE

When did I say I was a perfect drug user? Did you even read (or understand) my post? It was about challenging the stigma that all people who use meth are damaged goods and I base this on my research on many "functional" users. I only wrote my experience because functional occassional users are missing in the dogmatic discourse & I think more people need to share their experiences... and how interesting you responded to it by simply calling it a lie. Easy to do... and no wonder people do not speak up when this is the response you get. Have a considered open mind with me please.

Sorry you know of people struggling with it, but can you really believe each person is the same?

 

[Erikmen]

My thoughts exactly..

 

[me_2]

It really doesnt matter how its done. A drug is a drug. Thats the bottom line. It does harm no matter what your method of choice is. I made a huge mistake tonight and learned a very hard and long time coming lesson. Jumping to conclusions will cost you alot eventually.

 

[mister]

Tried meth for the first time tonight, got a point of apparently good gear for free. I was really nervous and smoked 15-20mgs and inhaled a big plume of smoke a few times until it didnt smoke any more and waited. Got a semi nice dopamine rush but nothing special, just had another 10 or so mgs and Im not that impressed so maybe Im doing something wrong?

Im an hour in and id say MDPV is MUCH better, the rush is 10x more intense and lushishly relaxing.

 

[SKDSLT]

Question about shard going around at the moment - Curious as to shape/size others are getting. I'm in Vic, and last 6 months or so the gear I've gotten has been smallish shard pieces, I think maybe once I've gotten a decent size rock in this last 6 months. I've seen the stash from the person I get it from numerous times and its always smallish shards in their big baggie too.
Are there others out the who score big rock shards on a regular basis? Or am I just wigging out? Lol

 

[me_2]

Ive been on it for almost 20 years. Im like your friend in respect to eating, sleeping, working, and i do not look as though i have a very big problem but i do. I also have been wanting to quit for years. Im not willing to lose my job or my daughter which i would if i were to say anything. Therefore i suffer in silence. I wish i had the answer but i dont. Im still working on it though. If i do figure out a way, i will be happy to let you know. Your friend is not alone in this battle. Im right there too and im sure we arent the only ones.

 

[Erikmen]

Tried meth for the first time tonight, got a point of apparently good gear for free. I was really nervous and smoked 15-20mgs and inhaled a big plume of smoke a few times until it didnt smoke any more and waited. Got a semi nice dopamine rush but nothing special, just had another 10 or so mgs and Im not that impressed so maybe Im doing something wrong?

Im an hour in and id say MDPV is MUCH better, the rush is 10x more intense and lushishly relaxing.

Strange. This is the kinda of thing you know it´s working the minute you start

 

[Hecticus]

Tried meth for the first time tonight, got a point of apparently good gear for free. I was really nervous and smoked 15-20mgs and inhaled a big plume of smoke a few times until it didnt smoke any more and waited. Got a semi nice dopamine rush but nothing special, just had another 10 or so mgs and Im not that impressed so maybe Im doing something wrong?

Im an hour in and id say MDPV is MUCH better, the rush is 10x more intense and lushishly relaxing.

You're doing no where near enough imo. Thing is a dose of mdpv can be vaped very quickly, unlike meth which requires much more material. Mdpv has no rush apparently, with a much shorter duration.

Got a couple points today. About 50mg IVed got me rushing for like 20 minutes. Felt like I was floating. Much better then usual. I find with some gear the bodyload can be so bad I cannot bring myself to redose.

 

[Hecticus]

Well im coming down and I feel like shit, im worried about my kidneys, and im afraid my cock may fall off. Spit aint lube.
Well this is different, I feel quite manic, talking a mile a minute, topics of conversation branching off effortlessly into completely unrelated crazy ideas and scenario's. Although my girlfriend seems concerned, and im talking alot of shit I feel in control.

 

[sassysam]

Could you be more specific as to the instructions for a first timer? Im speaking of pluggin ROA with water. daily smoker here. My friend said wrap it in tp. Quantity?

 

[psytaco]

So I've done shard the last two weekends (taken this one off). It's been great except for the comedown. Got some really good gear and 1/5 point would last at least 10 good strong tokes. Went through 3 points in 3 sessions with the final session shared with my GF.

However, I have noticed that I am craving it a lot. It is definately something that I am eager to do again and have been thinking about doing next weekend. However, it is probably something I should steer clear of considering its addiction potential and the possibility of psychosis that accompany heavy use.

I have a bit of a moral dilemma. I can get it through a friend of friend. However, he is trying to quit (although still using) and I have been encouraging him to quit. He is a daily user. Is it wrong to still ask him for a hook up? I don't want to seem like a hypocrite or encourage him to use more, yet at the same time I don't really have another source.

 

[3oaks]

motiv311--

I get a bunch of something every so often... Then I try to make it last as long as I can... Last year I got a bunch of coke and it lasted pretty much all year. I was able to mainly just do it on the weekends and on special occasions.. This year I got a bunch of Meth. I have heard all the horror stories about all the drugs but I've never really have an issue controlling any of them. This time is different. Some days I don't mind it at all and all is right with the world, and other days I feel like I'm trapped. Instead of being able to control it I've learned to live with it by setting up an eating schedule, taking vitamins and supplements and sleeping a little each day...usually by taking something to force sleep. I've found even an hour or two of rest makes a huge difference in my mental state. I've been on the edge of that paranoia thing once or twice but been able to ward it off. I do love the energy and the happy feelings that go with the good days.I've also started cleaning it up a little, I have read mixed reviews on whether to do it or not but I have found the high feels cleaner, not so angry, after I've washed it up. I get a pretty good return so I'm confident that I got good product to start. That may just be in my head but it works.

Anyway, It has been a weird ride and it's one I'd rather not take again. I just need to get through this one.