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DUDE^ I started just like that.... For the first 3-4 months I got SOOO high, couldn't wait to do it, pretty much never came down (or so it felt)..... I quit for years and years..... Cause I had my Adderall, though its not quite the same.... Fast forward ten years, I'm way more addicted feeling trapped, but like you said on the "good days" I feel SO good, and my music and career as a rockstar is closer at hand than ever before. I write tons of songs, sing like a devil and feel so tapped in. In a way I feel like i'm more fucked up than ever, but i'm doing great at work, and my singing/songwriting has never been at this level.

My body cracks and moans and my eyes burn up and I feel like I'm gonna lose it sometimes, I never keep it to a very minimal level cause its so cheap, and everything in life speeds up and accelerates , i'm not even an "Addictive" type personality; this thing has slowly takin root in my mind over many years. I'm getting ready to be done soon... before i'm 30 is giving me well over two years , so we'll see how it goes.
 
Yeah... Exactly. I'm a writer and I love being able to work an idea through to the end. That said... I won't likely get anymore once this is done. I just cleaned about a half cup this morning so I'm working through it. I even thought about giving some away just to get through it faster but there's a bit of a moral issue for me in that...I'd hate to help someone else self-destruct.
Anyway, good luck, man. Two years will fly by. Stay safe and when you make it to the top, remember all the little people who helped get you there!
 
With my weekday job I work approx 9-10 weeks and then get 2 weeks off.. and a continous cycle like that. I went from functioning on gear and going to work - which was the worst feeling mentally.. Then being in situations of having to drive simply scared the crap out of me. So I quit during the working weeks, and I go hard during my couple weeks off I get every 2.5 months . . . I usually take one or 2 'sick days' off around week 5 so I can go a 2 day bender. Overall this has worked well for the last 18 months . . I get on with my job but also hit the gear which I just dont want to quit entirely & this way what I do stays within the walls of my apartment from start to end of comedown. My next 2 week break from work begins this weekend.. eeeekkk!!
 
psytaco said:
So I've done shard the last two weekends (taken this one off). It's been great except for the comedown. Got some really good gear and 1/5 point would last at least 10 good strong tokes. Went through 3 points in 3 sessions with the final session shared with my GF.

However, I have noticed that I am craving it a lot. It is definately something that I am eager to do again and have been thinking about doing next weekend. However, it is probably something I should steer clear of considering its addiction potential and the possibility of psychosis that accompany heavy use.

I have a bit of a moral dilemma. I can get it through a friend of friend. However, he is trying to quit (although still using) and I have been encouraging him to quit. He is a daily user. Is it wrong to still ask him for a hook up? I don't want to seem like a hypocrite or encourage him to use more, yet at the same time I don't really have another source.
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I'd say discuss it with him, see if he's willing to put you in touch with his source, or another one.
 
3oaks said:
Yeah... Exactly. I'm a writer and I love being able to work an idea through to the end. That said... I won't likely get anymore once this is done. I just cleaned about a half cup this morning so I'm working through it. I even thought about giving some away just to get through it faster but there's a bit of a moral issue for me in that...I'd hate to help someone else self-destruct.
Anyway, good luck, man. Two years will fly by. Stay safe and when you make it to the top, remember all the little people who helped get you there!
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I was an english major, love the good writers and totally respect that.... its almost exactly the same as trying to be a musician/artist..... Its very competitive... I think using something like adderall or speed it it helps you write effectively and efficiently , but sometimes I noticed that if I was TOO yaked up, I could butcher and essay.... its better than being an alcoholic by far
 
Sounds good Michael... a bit the same here ... busy busy for a month then play for a week ... don't think about it for 1-2 weeks after playing but then the urge builds up and by the time play time comes around ... am wanting it so so bad ... so go for it...
 
My last encounter with meth was late February at the conclusion of my study. After I was 'freed' from the shackles of having to keep a relatively sound mind and ruining many potentially much more enjoyable experiences because I was recording everything down either with an voice recorder or noting down things on pen and paper...I went nuts with the drug.


I am sad to say that I do believe I am addicted to it mentally.

And this makes me sad. Not particularly ashamed or embarrassed, but just sad. It is probably a good thing that I don't have any contacts in Auckland that can supply me with this substance. I've had a rough 6 months, I am so close to breaking down.
 
Ravenholm said:
And this makes me sad. Not particularly ashamed or embarrassed, but just sad. It is probably a good thing that I don't have any contacts in Auckland that can supply me with this substance. I've had a rough 6 months, I am so close to breaking down.
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Ex-Jaffa here and I've seen too many people there get caught up in the pipe, the good news is that in Auckland most likely if you don't go looking for it you won't find it.
stay active , occupied and positive, the cravings for the drug last a long time but even after my period of heavy use it took about a year for those cravings to pass. of course I still think about having a pipe now and then but it's no biggie.
 
am I the only one that finds the high you get from the pipe to be complete shithouse in comparison to oral/intranasal/IV?

its just boring IMO and seems to be the most addictive way of administration.. if snorting lines didnt fucking hurt so much, I'de purely stick to intranasal as orals BA is as good as my motivation (ie. Im lazy)... although I only use once every month or two (hypertension being the main reason although I no longer crave the drug at all), I just stick with IVing small amounts as meth hurts my veins less than my nose :p

Im at that age in life where more than half my mates smoke the stuff most days of the week.. faaaaaaaaark thattttt
 
^ I like to snort my meth. Smoking it sucks. However my nose likes the fact that sublingual administration is almost as effective and not nearly as destructive to my nostrils. My teeth don't like it much but good oral hygiene counteracts the destruction to some extent.

So here it is: I like EDM mostly deep/prog house or trance. Amphetamines allow me to dance for hours, problem is my heart races a bit to hard. To solve this issue to some extent I like to take a benzo. Thing is all that dancing is painful so I take a dissociative drug to counteract the pain. I also like lights and such while dancing to EDM. To enhance this I take a small dose of a tryptamine like 4 aco dmt. Now this kind of stupidity takes a week or more to recover physically so I kind of cancel out the prospect of getting to addicted to meth. The other thing is meth on it's own is just plain tedious.
 
The other thing is being very physically fit allows you to dance for hour without the need for meth. Pain however is still present. I also enjoy the enhancement of my senses when dancing to EDM that amphetamines provide. So now and then dancing for hour on end to EDM at a rave, club or in the comfort of your own home with meth and other stuff isn't so bad. It's using it more than once or twice a month that you start to look like one of the walking dead...
 
@Ravenholm - Just stay away from it man, it might feel like what its done to your thought processes is forever and when life gets hard like the only escape/release from them is to use it again. But the thought to use to escape those feelings is what in the past has made you feel so intensly like that in the first place. At this point its run its course and using again will not only keep perpetuating those feelings but it will keep getting worse over time until you absolutely cannot deal with them - not just further perpetuating them. Stay strong and I wish you all the best, not trying to preach to you or be anti-drugs etc but I'm going through more or less the same thing (albeit my version of stimulant psychosis much different but outcome is more or less the same). Remember that even if you don't care about what happens to you mentally there most likely _are_ people around you that care about you and that using again will absolutely effect them in a negative way. This shit is in a class of its own esp when its koota gear. All the best and reminder to everyone once usage gets past a certain point and enough "trials and tribulations", hardships are experienced there is no turning back you can't use anymore. Even if you can limit your use to once in a blue moon will still increase the overall perma-sad feelings. Totally not worth it... As an aside I have felt that daily weed/hash, and very occasional xanax/smack use has helped me figure things out. Just no more gear for me ever this stuff got me good.
 
That's interesting... I've only ever smoked and .... It's worked! If iv/oral is a more intense than smoking, jeez I'm curious.. I worry I'll enjoy the expensive drug even more..

pisspotnrock said:
am I the only one that finds the high you get from the pipe to be complete shithouse in comparison to oral/intranasal/IV?

its just boring IMO and seems to be the most addictive way of administration.. if snorting lines didnt fucking hurt so much, I'de purely stick to intranasal as orals BA is as good as my motivation (ie. Im lazy)... although I only use once every month or two (hypertension being the main reason although I no longer crave the drug at all), I just stick with IVing small amounts as meth hurts my veins less than my nose :p

Im at that age in life where more than half my mates smoke the stuff most days of the week.. faaaaaaaaark thattttt
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The biggest problem is that now I've done it, I've realized that things (sexual things) I have previously only mildly tolerated have become enjoyable. For the first time in my life, I actually had a relatively normal sex life.

Now that it's gone, it feels like I am once again a boring person.

Speaking of the study, I've been doing a weekly review of my general mood and emotions before I actually used meth and for 3 months after it. The biggest high points (get it? point?) have definitely been my time when meth was readily available.
It was less of the 'rush' and more of the feeling that I've found something that gave my non-professional side of life some sort of normality. Yes, I know that I sound incredibly fucked up when I say drugs help me feel normal but for the first time in my life, I found myself able to relate to people on a rather intimate level and feel pleasure in doing intimate things. I've mentioned this before, sex has never particularly interested me before and sex while on meth is mind-blowingly good. Meth without sex is a waste of meth, sex without meth is a waste of my time.

Immediately after I ceased my meth usage, my general emotions did dip a little but rebounded to 'pre-meth' levels around a month or so. I'm beginning to have the impression that I'm suffering from depression prior to using meth and have somehow self-medicated (whether or not this is the correct course of treatment is not the scope of what I wanted to find out) into some sense of normality and have fallen back to being normal and depressing once I've stopped self medicating, with the depression hitting harder lately in light of recent personal events.
 
Ravenholm said:
Speaking of the study, I've been doing a weekly review of my general mood and emotions before I actually used meth and for 3 months after it. The biggest high points (get it? point?) have definitely been my time when meth was readily available.
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No kidding, this shouldn't really be a revelation..... " I was enjoying myself more on drugs than not on drugs" that's generally the reason people take these substances.

Things (sex,talking,cleaning) are better on meth because of it's effect on dopamine and the subsequent reward pathways. it's a dangerous road to walk too frequently as these activities will become associated with the level of reward received while on meth, things that used to be satisfying are no longer so etc. etc.
 
i have a few questions i'm hoping you all will be able to help with. i usually buy .25, use it on and off (mostly on) over 4-5 days with intermittent sleep in between. total usage in a day would be maybe .05. then i'll park it for a few weeks and have nothing. i believe it is good quality from a reputable source. ingestion is via smoking. total lifetime usage is maybe 10x0.25 over 6 months. no health problems or poor health history.

- ive noticed random pains. 'inside' the quads, sometimes on the left hip radiating towards groin. i was suspecting veins/arteries but its just a guess. totally goes away after usage stops.
- ive had chest pain occasionally, but it also seems like it is muscular. i can rub the pec muscles now maybe 5-6 hours after last does and it feels sore like from exercise. i'm obviously concerned about serious damage to heart or organs and i can also assume that i'm hyper sensitive to symptoms due to the meth. is this a common symptom?
- general muscle tenseness, neck getting tight. common/normal?
- are there any other signs i should be looking out for or any basic health tips when using? i've been trying to keep up calories via protein drinks or gatorade and shovel food when i can
- apart from the obvious 'dont use it you're a dick head' are there any recommendations? most of the reading from the google i've found is the standard 'you will die from kidney/liver/heart failure immediately'

thx
 
cheezel55 said:
i have a few questions i'm hoping you all will be able to help with. i usually buy .25, use it on and off (mostly on) over 4-5 days with intermittent sleep in between. total usage in a day would be maybe .05. then i'll park it for a few weeks and have nothing. i believe it is good quality from a reputable source. ingestion is via smoking. total lifetime usage is maybe 10x0.25 over 6 months. no health problems or poor health history.

- ive noticed random pains. 'inside' the quads, sometimes on the left hip radiating towards groin. i was suspecting veins/arteries but its just a guess. totally goes away after usage stops.
- ive had chest pain occasionally, but it also seems like it is muscular. i can rub the pec muscles now maybe 5-6 hours after last does and it feels sore like from exercise. i'm obviously concerned about serious damage to heart or organs and i can also assume that i'm hyper sensitive to symptoms due to the meth. is this a common symptom?
- general muscle tenseness, neck getting tight. common/normal?
- are there any other signs i should be looking out for or any basic health tips when using? i've been trying to keep up calories via protein drinks or gatorade and shovel food when i can
- apart from the obvious 'dont use it you're a dick head' are there any recommendations? most of the reading from the google i've found is the standard 'you will die from kidney/liver/heart failure immediately'

thx
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Not totally qualified as I am not a doctor but it sounds like you should lay off the meth for a good while, let whatever is left in your body to get expelled and see if your condition improves.

Based on personal experience, I do have some of the symptoms you describe. While for me, I attribute my muscle tenseness with the fact that I lose track of time and stay in a position that could perhaps be not good for my posture for a long time. If you have the time and the money, I'd also go get a massage and see if that helps to relieve some of the muscle tension.
 
Possibly chelated magnesium may ease some of the muscle pain. I don't know the nuts and bolts of it but meth depletes magnesium, and it needs to be replaced.
 
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