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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only

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^^ I rarely have a bad come down from meth. I also don't 'come down' from MDMA. Being up for too long feels uncomfortable but it just feels like sleep dep.
I like being scattered <3 .
 
comedowns used to feel awful. Now I usually feel good during my comedowns, depending on how clean the drug is, Ill sleep a good six or seven hours, wake up and feel good all the next day too.
 
nah im totally diffrent - i always used to come down badly
not to start off with of course - the first 4 odd yrs i used meth id just start noticing i wasnt 'up' anymore, then id crash
then slowly i started to get worse and worse comedowns - id b all euphoric and confident and productive while high then id go thru that awful tweaky period of being highly paranoid, agitated, irritable, anxious and hanging out for more
this slowly progressed to full-on bouts of methamphetamine psychosis (always on the comedown) - crawly skin, delusions, hallucinations, crazy behaviour (i remember one night lying down in the middle of the road for no reason - my friend had to flag down cars for me), aggression, jealousy.....i guess fairly textbook stuff :\
that was wen i started using opiates to calm myself down cos these comedowns were getting so bad and i was staying high for shorter and shorter amounts of time and needing more and more (in the end, 3gms a day was maintenance - just stopped me going into withdrawal, 4gms a day was to get high)
the withdrawal from the stuff was horrendous for me cos i became even more psychotic even after id come down and slept for 3 days straight
had nothing to do with how clean the drug was either (if u want to call it a clean drug) - over here its always pretty fucking pure.....the stuff i used anyway, i mean that is wat P stands for.....pure (tho ive seen ppl try to sell meth that looks like powdered faeces and pass it off as 'P')
wenever i want to use P these days i either look at fucking pics of myself on the shit or i try and remember those horrible comedowns - cos IME, evry time i went back, it was never like the gd old days wen i was first snorting a few lines of crystal meth at school, it was always straight back into full-time-job-as-a-meth-addict and within weeks back wud b the paranoia and the anxiety and the cameras following me round like eddie murphys character on bowfinger :\
 
From my experience smoking crystal makes me do everything i want to do. I learn some important things on it. Like its possible to get what you want you just have to put your effort into it and everything is possible. Taught me to live in the moment just like when your on the shit. It taught me not to care about other peoples problems/shit... its not your buisness, your buisness is keeping your self happy, not others. (not like be a bitch and not care for anything, just dont feel down tryin to help others)...
 
BlueNakedLady said:
From my experience smoking crystal makes me do everything i want to do. I learn some important things on it. Like its possible to get what you want you just have to put your effort into it and everything is possible. Taught me to live in the moment just like when your on the shit. It taught me not to care about other peoples problems/shit... its not your buisness, your buisness is keeping your self happy, not others. (not like be a bitch and not care for anything, just dont feel down tryin to help others)...
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off topic but your user name reminds me of a nightmare I had as a child about a blue naked women jumping on a trampoline with out a head...8)
 
BlueNakedLady said:
It taught me not to care about other peoples problems/shit... its not your buisness, your buisness is keeping your self happy, not others. (not like be a bitch and not care for anything, just dont feel down tryin to help others)...
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ill agree, it taught me the same thing - only i took it over the top and didnt just not care about other ppls problems.....i became downright cold and didnt give a fuck about anyone
i cud go someone while i was having one of my fits of aggressive behaviour and just feel no remorse - even if theyd technically done nothing wrong
i had absolutely no empathy at all, for anyone - i was basically a psychopath on the stuff
saying that it did help me realise i cud b confident and out-going too (i was originally quite shy)....i made a lot of friends thru meth use, some of whom ive kept (not advisable i know but....) - and i was ranked one of the top jumping riders in my area cos i was so invincible i didnt think about the consequences of jumping accidents
i got jobs track-riding and training racehorses, and ppl wud come to me with their kids problem ponies and pay me to school them to become at least sellable
now id never attempt to train dangerous horses and ponies, and even my own horse, while he seems to love me more for no longer treating him like a machine for winning money for drugs on, has one-up over me if he decides to start carrying on (hes like a horse on meth).....i even do competitions at a lower level than i used to
so yes, there were advantages to meth, ill definitely admit that
its just, in the end the cons outweighed the pros
i was so sick in the end i wudnt hav bn riding much longer anyway :\
god, come off the dexies and i start rambling - i spose this is a subject ive got a lot to add to :\
 
See, I think that once you stop using meth as a recreational tool and use it as a tool for enhancing everyday life it becomes a problem. You just forget what functioning without it is and you come to depend on it for anything.
 
^totally agreed
just, for some ppl, it never will b a 'recreational tool'
like ive said many times before, ive tried many times to use as little as once a month and only with friends
but evry time i cud only keep that up for so long - the highs just so addictive for me
sometimes i do tell myself now my ADHDs treated (well its not atm but u know wat i mean) i probly cud use meth occasionally but i dont want to risk becoming hooked on it again (definitely not worth it) and besides ive fucked my brain and body up with it so badly that even occasional use wud probly fuck me up pretty bad
yea meths fucking awesome if u really can b a recreational user - ive just come to the conclusion that thatll never b the case for me
for me meth = death :\
 
ive had good experiences with ritalin but i dont really have a good reason to have it prescribed. just for the craving of amps isnt enough.

i have loads of meds i take daily and i know that a few shots of amps would reduce my med intake greatly - if not finish it for good.
 
I started on adderall two years ago. Its a blessing and a curse, mainly because of the tolerance your body quickly builds up. I went from 155 pounds to 120 pounds in about 4 months, I could study, became more confident, felt better and yes everything looked better. But now I find that I need more and more to feel the same. I can take up to 60mg at a time and not tweak. My doctor doubled my dosage but Im afraid if I ask for more she'll take it away...or worse, put me on concerta (sucks).
 
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I can take up to 60mg at a time and not tweak.
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im guessing uve bn prescribed it for AD(H)D
if so, the point of taking it isnt to tweak.....its to help u focus, calm ur thoughts/hyperactivity down and help u get more motivated and organised
as long as its doing that ur on an ok dose
as far as the euphoric feelings go, cant say ive tried adderall cos its not in this country but i know with dexamphetamine they go away with tolerance, but the therapeutic effects dont, once uve found a dose that works for u (and not to get high on)
 
16 year Stimulant addiction ....I'm so fucking tired....

I smoked lot's and lot's of tweak for 7 years - every day. It was amazing, my life took off like a shooting star, I could do no wrong, until, of course, it turns on you, and then it's all over.....I went crawling on my knees to a psychiatrist, told him I'm hopelessly, helplessly addicted to crystal. He said no problem, you're just bipolar, and you're self medicating ADD! He said take MY drugs, they're better and legal, and more pure. I went for it in a big way...my cocktail was an ever-changing mix of mood stabilizers, anti-psychotics, benzos, SSRI's, and of course.....amphetamine. He gave me everything, and lot's of it..Adderrall, Dexi's, Desoxyn, Ritilin, sometimes he gave me all of them at once. He didn't keep track of what he was doing. I haven't had to see him in 3 years, he just mails me prescriptions. I keep smoking meth, too.
I finally quit meth 3 1/2 years ago....the bipolar drugs ruined my life, and the speed made me a psychotic freak. So here I am....I'm taking dexe's everyday, sometimes snorting them just for fun, I take clonopin at the end of the day to unwind, and then an ambien to sleep, and wake up and do it again. I've tried to quit the stimulants over and over, and I just can't seem to do it. I'm so miserable....I want to stop, but my world falls apart after about 6 days and I beg my roommate to give me the bottle back. We scream and fight, and eventually, he does, and I'm back, amped up and ready for life. Problem is I don't have a life and I just hyper-focus on the computer, engage in sexual compulsive behavior, and hate myself.
 
Robaroot said:
I smoked lot's and lot's of tweak for 7 years - every day. It was amazing, my life took off like a shooting star, I could do no wrong, until, of course, it turns on you, and then it's all over.....I went crawling on my knees to a psychiatrist, told him I'm hopelessly, helplessly addicted to crystal. He said no problem, you're just bipolar, and you're self medicating ADD! He said take MY drugs, they're better and legal, and more pure. I went for it in a big way...my cocktail was an ever-changing mix of mood stabilizers, anti-psychotics, benzos, SSRI's, and of course.....amphetamine. He gave me everything, and lot's of it..Adderrall, Dexi's, Desoxyn, Ritilin, sometimes he gave me all of them at once. He didn't keep track of what he was doing. I haven't had to see him in 3 years, he just mails me prescriptions. I keep smoking meth, too.
I finally quit meth 3 1/2 years ago....the bipolar drugs ruined my life, and the speed made me a psychotic freak. So here I am....I'm taking dexe's everyday, sometimes snorting them just for fun, I take clonopin at the end of the day to unwind, and then an ambien to sleep, and wake up and do it again. I've tried to quit the stimulants over and over, and I just can't seem to do it. I'm so miserable....I want to stop, but my world falls apart after about 6 days and I beg my roommate to give me the bottle back. We scream and fight, and eventually, he does, and I'm back, amped up and ready for life. Problem is I don't have a life and I just hyper-focus on the computer, engage in sexual compulsive behavior, and hate myself.
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Moral of story dont smoke shit. I used to smoke like 3 times a week and noticed some bad changes in my behavoir so now i just smoke once a week.
 
^doesnt work like that for evryone.....in fact, amphetamines being as addictive as they r, it doesnt work like that for a lot of ppl
robaroot - my advice wud b to get help
and not from a psychiatrist - wen i was still using i went to a psychiatrist and said i wanted to get off meth and he prescribed me benzos (saying theyd not only get me off meth, theyd stop me from having seizures - which were originally caused by amphetamine use anyway).....i ended up still using meth and now im hooked on benzos :\
yea later another better psychiatrist diagnosed me ADHD but that guy wudnt prescribe me anything stimulant until i was clean for 6 months
the person id look for help from (if u want to get off speed that is) wud b a drug/alcohol specialist
even consider rehab, since uve bn on it for a long time
i go to NA, hate it as i sometimes do, and i hav to say it fucking helps me stay off the gear
it depends how much u want the help eh
and r u actually ADD? do u actually hav any of the symptoms the psych wud hav asked u about, or were u just looking for a speed script at the time? cos if u actually need the shit its a whole diffrent ball game
if u do need it, give the pills to someone trustworthy (my mum looks after mine), or get them on daily pick-up from ur pharmacy so u cant abuse them
PM me if u ever want to chat (u can PM mods) - as far as meth addiction goes i can sure empathise......ive only bn on it half the length of time u hav but it sure fucked with me
gd luck
 
It's been more than a year since I've quit using Methamphetamine and it's something I still think about daily. It helps that I now have a very demanding job working as a Manager but when I'm at home all I can think about is how great another hit of it would be. Even with all of that, I still find the will to stay off of it. There is light at the end of the tunnel for those who use it... it's never easy, but it's achievable.
 
Yeah Meth has such a gigantic relapse rate.....My friend just relapsed after 17 months of no meth, with the support of sponsers and all that jazz....Welcome to the dark side.
 
^ditto with my friend - she just turned up at my house oneday saying she had a court case and oh btw she had bn using meth for the past 6 months (again)....i wudnt hav even had a clue and ud think id know by now wat meth use looks like :\
turns out the 'court case' was for being caught with a lot of meth - shes looking at prison....its bn a pretty trying time for both of us tbh as weve always bn pretty close
falco - i remember wen u quit meth....i relapsed since then so ull hav more clean time than me....gd on u mate, i knew u cud do it
and yea i think about it all the time too - its a real pain - but ur right about there being light at the end of the tunnel!
 
Base (UK speed) and not taking it

I had been wanting to have a break with base for ages.
All I could manage was a week or two, but not having any interest in anything, even things which are normally interesting, and not having any attention span usually got too much.
Base was the only way, I could feel comfortable in my own space.
Apart from psychosis and severely swollen feet due to water retention, I had a big wish to be able to say that I had not taken any for more than two weeks.
Even bigger speed-freaks, who had been at it longer had managed bigger breaks than me.

This year my wish was granted, as supply became intermittent, and is, as I speak, non existant.
It's been good in that I can now properly say I haven't had base for more than two weeks, but I still have no attention span, no enthusiasm, and no confidence.
I never had these anyway, but would like something more than speeds fake imitations in the way of attention span and confidence.

I take many supplements and vitamins, and am glad I am not forced out of my home daily to face people I don't have a wish to see.
 
it takes a lot longer to recover from an amphetamine addiction (esp long-term) than 2 weeks! im only just starting to recover noticeably after over a yr
take it really slowly and just....recover
amphetamine PAWS r pretty awful - and wat ur going thru sounds just like it....lack of attention span, confidence and enthusiasm for anything (possibly mild depression - remember speed depletes ur dopamine)
supplements and vitamins r a gd idea - esp fish oil id always recommend, as well as things like tyrosine, deer velvet and methionine
gd luck - i dont know if ur intention is to stay off speed wen it gets back in supply again but if so, it does get better, trust me
 
Does crystal meth catch up to you..?

I smoke meth once every week during the weekends to get caught up on homework and studying for college. WIll this catch up to me and effect be worse and worse like E does? I just want to be able to smoke about once a week or once every 2 weeks. I dont want to just not smoke anymore. But if smokin it once a week causes damage too fast I dont want to keep doing this. I dont want to find out myself either so I want to know if anyone been through this or know the answer.
 
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