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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

Too bad; could have had a valentines day smoke there, for sure. Yeah, I need something mellow on the lungs, so will just go with plain marshmallow, based on popularity. I wonder if it's a fragrant herb? I have some cream soda food flavouring, which could really complement the smell of marshmallow.
 
thenightwatch said:
like i said, it also depends on the herbs that are used

i've got buddies that have seriously messed up their lungs from chronic foil smoking and chronic store-bought blend smoking.

i used to smoke a LOT more of this stuff than i do now.... like 1 to 3 grams of strong blend a day... made it myself using Mullein, which is an herb traditionally used by Native Americans to treat upper respiratory problems.... i never even got so much as a cough.




my personal theory is -- humans have been smoking herbs for thousands of years. our lungs are probably a bit more used to processing burnt plant material than they are used to processing pure vaporized (somewhat caustic) chemicals.

sorta like how 190proof Everclear burns the hell out of your throat, but adding a shot of it to a nice tall glass of mixer doesn't hurt so bad.

that's just my theory, though, and i wouldn't be at all surprised if someone proved me wrong some day. :)
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Its most certainly sensical! In my mind though it will always be better to have a lesser volume of smoke enter the lungs as inhaling any smoke isn't really a grand thing. Very interesting about mullein though never really researched herbs much as I don't use them. Also the issuse of hot spots from homemade blends is what makes me lean towards pure noids besides the other reasons. Note though in my example I am talking about using a solid meth pipe and not foil. Makes smoking easier and much more accurate especially if yoiu have a good torch!

Also note people that FUBINACAs and PINACAs are some of the most potent noids released yet. They also have some of the best effects since 018, especially AB-FUBINACA IMO but over doing them when intoerant still gets pretty wacky! Oh and I find damiana harsh as shit as well, hated blends with that in it!
 
hot spots aren't really an issue with the method i use for making blends. soaking is a lot better than spraying.

i did have a glass bulb for awhile, but never tried pure 'noids in it. i should have. ended up smashing the bulb at one point, due to fears that it would be mistaken for a meth pipe.
 
Haha, everyone will think its a meth pipe but everyone has clear misjudgements about such things, why I often choose to call it a freebase pipe, as its stupid as shit to call them meth pipes because you can vaporize most any chemical in them, it just so happens the majority of people choose meth. Their honestly badass as fuck to smoke noids out of, one my tolerance is a bit ramped up I just load ups a hundred or so mgs and take as large or small of hits as I want too. Once you learn how to use them with each noid its terribly easy to get accurate hits out of them.
 
It's had to find the old school bulbous lightbulbs here; they're all selling the double coiled ones, so I never did get to make a vapour pipe of one; It's either herbal blends for me, or chasing the noids from foil with a hollowed out biro pen - it does the job, I guess. ^ you can smoke 100 mg of pure noid for real? Shit...
 
there was a time when i could smoke 100mg of 'noids in one go

those were dark times

now a gram lasts me a few months

which i guess should give hope to you guys that currently have a sky-high tolerance :)
 
Buddy of mine didn't know you have to remove the white... Fiberglass? Coating from inside via salt or what not. You can imagine how that went for him
 
thenightwatch said:
there was a time when i could smoke 100mg of 'noids in one go

those were dark times

now a gram lasts me a few months

which i guess should give hope to you guys that currently have a sky-high tolerance :)
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Same here brother! Well I don't count them as bad/dark times as I knew exactly what I was doing/getting into. Not much else to expect when a noid lover buys in 50 gram quantites haha! Those times taught me noid vaping matery though and I can be lazy besides that so putting hundreds of mgs into a pipe at once is just easier especially when tripping as I smoke much more during those times. It might sound confusing though so let me explain a bit, putting less material in the pipe actually makes it easier to smoke a bit more than you want because the material will hit vaping temps quicker, easier, and more unamiously whereas more material takes longer to reach vape temps as well as requiring you to move the pipe a bit to coax more vapor out. Its an art really. ;)

You guise know that those pipes are sold online right? Ebay used to have them, good thicks ones at that for good prices. Their also available in some online headshops.
 
I'm totally new to this noid game; hearing people using up to 100 mgs a day is very, very surprising to me. I gave around 8 mgs of 1:1:1 akb48, bb22, pb22 to a guy with a sky high tolerance for hydro misty cannabis. This hydro green was Strong, with so many sticky trichromes on the bud it could almost glow in the dark, and he'd chain smoke the stuff constantly, all day every day, acting completely normal (though red-eyed and giggly). Anyway, he chased my Syncans, half an hour later, he was in full-blown whitey mode (I mean ghostly white) it was too much, even for a major-league smoker, and he had to lay down in the dark for 2 hours.

So, I guess the raw cannabinoids must act like a-bombs to the cannabinoid receptors, literally wiping them out if they're tolerance profiles are anything to go by. Well, I've heard it described as crackabis....

For somebody who can tolerate 100 mg of raw syncan, if it's discontinued completely, are there any withdrawal symptoms?

Edit:is a syncan as strong as pure thc btw?
 
I never found the tolerance to bad even when I smoked multiple times a day. Personally I just absolutely LOVE getting stoned, been that way for a long time now and I also simply love to get higher and higher sometimes. I'm the sort to just smoke and smoke until i'm satisfied if I have the time/materials! Synthetic cannabinoids provide that and then some especially when a gram only costs a few dollars or a bit more.

Most synthetics are far more potent than THC. Its not suprising most people don't like them as they hit instantly and like a ton of bricks as well as being pretty psycedelic/wacked out. Their also full agonist at CB1/2. For me though I loved highly charged altered states and have always been decent at handling them as well. I started out vaping anywhere from 5-25mgs of 018 at a time. I don't really reciev WDs from MJ and synthetics are more noticeable but simply like exaggerated verisons of MJs. I've used hundreds of grams by now as a note. Other people have experienced worse though.

All this noid talk made me itch....AB-FUBINACA incoming! Been awhile so its about time I get MF'ing stoned!
 
Same here, I just need to alter my consciousness, with whatever's at hand. I didn't realise Syncans were more potent than thc though. I opened up my akb48 packet, and it looks way different than my other noids; it kinda looks like hundreds of sparkly little crystals- my others just look like regular powders.

Also, I've heard rave reviews of AB-FUBINACA. Unfortunately the vendor I trust doesn't stock this, but I'll be scoring some in the new year for sure. Does it cause a lot of panic/anxiety/paranoia btw? This has always been a problem for me with cannabis; probably the reason I never became a heavy smoker- just a drag or two on a joint was always enough for me.
 
Which synthetic cannabinoid do you guys find best for oral dosing?
At what dosages(for none to light tolerance)?
And which one works best just dissolved in ethanol and not in butter or oil?
 
^I'm unsure of which is best, the JWH's always worked well for me in that respect and AB-FUBINACA worked well in PG, I never attempted butter but strong ethanol always worked really well for me. I advise starting low, like 5mgs max for almost all noids. Some people get pretty blasted orally where as some need higher doses before it will really be effective orally. That's why I like ethanol though, as you can dissolve one dose in a shot, wait 30-60 minutes, see how strong it feels, then proceed from there.
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Also, I've heard rave reviews of AB-FUBINACA. Unfortunately the vendor I trust doesn't stock this, but I'll be scoring some in the new year for sure. Does it cause a lot of panic/anxiety/paranoia btw? This has always been a problem for me with cannabis; probably the reason I never became a heavy smoker- just a drag or two on a joint was always enough for me.
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AKB-48/5F always came as crystals for me. Actually not really, I find it excessively pleasant. You can still certainly over do it, and I wouldn't recommend attempting large amounts at first but the high is very nice. I always advise people to take it slow as that way its easy to find your "ceiling" as you'll feel it start to get slightly uncomfortable which is a good cue to stop rather than be blasted and totally uncomfortable.
 
Yeah, I second that. I'll definitely be using this one again. I did find it fairly trippy, but the feeling was more physical than mental. Also, it gave me cotton mouth and munchies.

Edit: thenightwatch, how long did the effects of bb-22 last for you. When I accidentally took to strong a dose, it lasted a good 4 hours for me, although I'm not used to noids.
 
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Got 5F-AKB48 & 5F-PB22 infused with a new blueberry incense flavouring through the post today. 2grams of nice herb, popped tiny amount of grain into my vape and had a great 2hour high from it. Came back from buying stuff from the shop and loaded my vape bowl half full, put it on 210c and boom im VERY high right now. This is heavy but I like it.

Going to watch a film now, drinking great fruit juice and having a take away in a few hours. First time using synth cannabinoids and great experience so far.

It's worth noting i'm a benzo addict, so I might be having an easier time with synth noids because of the amount of benzos I take daily. I'm scripted 20mg daily from my dr and i take 10mg or so extra per day on top (all diazepam) and I also pop roughly 2mg diclazepam a day and up to 6mg etizolam per day
 
Synthetic Cannabinoid recipe sharing thread

What are your favorite blends? Do you prefer marshmallow leaf over damiana? skullcap? mullien? 5F-PB-22, or 5F-AKB48? Discuss! =D
 
Hey Guys this is probably a newb question but is it possible to insufflate a noid? if not does the oral roa as effective as smoking it given that you take a slightly larger dose?
 
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