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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

dopemegently said:
Yeah something cheap and inconspicuous like rubbing alcohol would be absolutely perfect. I'll check out my local hardware store for sure.
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i just get mine from a super market :)

dopemegently said:
Sorry for the dumb question, but how about that gel alcohol hand wash as used in hospitals; I wonder if that would evaporate. I'm guessing almost certainly not btw.
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sounds like a long shot. i wouldn't try it.
 
Definitely a terrible idea for sure.

Was thinking of using hemp for my mix; not sure about taste though. Hemp bud, if there is such a thing? I reckon wild dagga would be pretty intense, it's not cheap though.
 
some extra cash this week and a conversation with dopemegently have inspired me to order a bit of 5F-PB-22.

just posting because i'm excited. i haven't 'noided in a couple months.
 
5F-PB-22 is a cannabinoid that's very stoning with a strong body high and some strange synthetic warmth to it. I like it, though it's far too short lasting unfortunately. Dose as you would AM-2201, it's the most potent cannabinoid on the market since that one.
 
AFOAF Chemist Ordered 5F-akb48 and 5f-pb22. Should be in This week. He will create a new thread and update his experiment progress when it does.

Experiment goal: create a e-juice liquid which can either be vaporizer or applied to a cigarette and smoked directly
 
my supplier did not have any 5F-PB-22 in stock, despite his website allowing me to place an order for some. instead, i now have BB-22 on the way. i hope its good enough.
 
Hey Everybody I am thinking about ordering some AB-Pinaca and some 5f-pb-22. I have never used cannabanoids before and hear that it is very potent. Since the two most popular ROA's is vaporizing and the other blending, when vaporizing how do u measure out a reasonable amt of powder to smoke? I would consider blending but dont want to use tobacco, does anyone know where to get those other herbs like Cammomile or Marhmellow, etc.. that can be smoked? Thanks.
 
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Typical dose of a RC is about 5mg. Though I say typical! You probably want to start with about half that. You can always smoke more. But you can't ever take it back!

As far as marshmallow leaf and damia etc there's several vendors online. Sourcing is illegal here so were not really allowed to say. However marshmallow leaf is my favorite.
 
^^ thanks a lot. I appreciate the Info. I used to have a milligram scale but noticed a while ago that when u're measuring small amts like under 10mgs my scale wasn't very accurate.. so measuring out less than 5mgs of any powder by eye is pretty hard to do.. Is it like a tiny pinch with your hands or something?

btw which do you think is safer or superior, vaporizing or smoking a blend?
 
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AFOAF is actually a virgin to the RC world and is just now expecting his first shipment this week. Just in time for Christmas hopefully!

I have ordered a jewel scale off eBay... Hope that isn't considered sourcing... Lol. They go for $20~$30 and are quite accurate to the mg. I figure if they use them to price diamonds they should work for my cause.

Now what AFOAF wouldn't suggest is weighing out your 10mg and separating it into 4 equal piles. This isn't accurate however because from what I understand some chemicals are a mix of powder and crystals and having a pile of powder compared to a pile of crystals is a big difference!
 
Thank you all for your tips. Sorry about that swim stuff and the inconsistencies. My apologies!
 
thenightwatch said:
imo blends are safer, as long as the herbs they use are quality and safe in themselves

mullein is excellent
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Hmm, I don't think i'd agree unless the person had a terrible scale as it's pretty well known you'll need a good one, especially with the release of FUBINACA's and ana's. In my mind smoking more material that could potentially have mega hot spots isn't an ideal option as long as you have a proper scale with a freebase pipe, as with those two things it's quite easy to titrate doses on up. Foil smoking is a bit more difficult but thick glass freebase pipes or meth pipes make it really easy to take a fairly exact hit without vaping the entire dose. I don't like having to mess with my lungs more than I have too though.
 
I would just like to say I've tripped balls off of AB-PINACA a couple times the past few days when I vaped a little too much of it, like 10mg. It wasn't a negative experience in any way but very strong; I'm glad I was at home in my room without needing to do anything because I could barely talk at first after tripping out for an hour. Only negative symptom was extreme dry mouth. I've also used smaller dosages (<6mg) and got a nice high closer to what I would expect from smoking a bunch of cannabis.
 
yeah I can imagine these drugs being trippy if overdone but don't think it would be comfortable for me.
once I had a light od on 5f-akb48 and felt almost dissociated from my body. was shaking a lot but that's because it was really cold (very strange consodering it was summer) and was a bit paranoid about my heart rate.
can't imagine how a major od would be like, hopefully i will never find out!
 
Help?!?! said:
Hmm, I don't think i'd agree unless the person had a terrible scale as it's pretty well known you'll need a good one, especially with the release of FUBINACA's and ana's. In my mind smoking more material that could potentially have mega hot spots isn't an ideal option as long as you have a proper scale with a freebase pipe, as with those two things it's quite easy to titrate doses on up. Foil smoking is a bit more difficult but thick glass freebase pipes or meth pipes make it really easy to take a fairly exact hit without vaping the entire dose. I don't like having to mess with my lungs more than I have too though.
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like i said, it also depends on the herbs that are used

i've got buddies that have seriously messed up their lungs from chronic foil smoking and chronic store-bought blend smoking.

i used to smoke a LOT more of this stuff than i do now.... like 1 to 3 grams of strong blend a day... made it myself using Mullein, which is an herb traditionally used by Native Americans to treat upper respiratory problems.... i never even got so much as a cough.




my personal theory is -- humans have been smoking herbs for thousands of years. our lungs are probably a bit more used to processing burnt plant material than they are used to processing pure vaporized (somewhat caustic) chemicals.

sorta like how 190proof Everclear burns the hell out of your throat, but adding a shot of it to a nice tall glass of mixer doesn't hurt so bad.

that's just my theory, though, and i wouldn't be at all surprised if someone proved me wrong some day. :)
 
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thenightwatch said:
my supplier did not have any 5F-PB-22 in stock, despite his website allowing me to place an order for some. instead, i now have BB-22 on the way. i hope its good enough.
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Great choice there, nothing wrong with this baby at all. Comparable to really good hash at tolerable doses, although I did vape too much noid and experienced racing heart, but no panic. A night time smoke, makes for an excellent sleep aid. My vendor stocks the 5fpb22, although I went with plain pb22. (I don't understand the difference between these 5f variations).

As for herbal blends, I've looked at mullein, and it looks promising. Also, damiana; any truth to the claims of aphrodisiac properties?

Edit: yeah, nightwatch, I failed to explain myself in our PMs. When I asked if blends lose potency, I actually meant is it possible for some of the Syncans to shake loose during transit, weakening the blend? If so, I was thinking maybe an food-grade aerosol sealant could lock in those noids.
 
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i've heard damiana is mainly an aphrodisiac for women. i've tried damiana in blends before, haven't personally noticed much of an aphrodisiac effect above and beyond the usual effect from cannabinoids. also, it tends to produce a pretty harsh smoke in my experience. maybe i had bad damiana though, idk. it seems to be a popular choice.
 
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