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every one is always going on about blends like k2 or haze what about the solids like black magic iv found them to be real close to the real thing and by miles a lot better than the herbal blends just wish i could make one at home like you can a blend
 
cant and even if i culd i wouldnt id feel bad. he deeted it i guess theres some sanity still letft in him. i screenshotted it tho is there way to upload pics in my post?
 
ok! i ot it lol im on my tablet its hard af to type and do all this shit but i got it. read this shit. goddamn shame smh
edit: sorry guys idont kow why its on its side like that. i had to block out his last name and i guess it saved it lke that.. oh well my bad
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so lemme try to elaborate on that a little^^^the nick hes referring to is a mutual friend who this guy (also named nick) is saying is invading his head and tryn chill with hi and steal his ideas. i have no idea abou hlff he other stuff. he told me while i was tryna see i he was alright "yea dude leave me alone your tryna ssteal my throne" im like bro cmon wyou gotta read wwhat your sayin to me and he says " no dude im next in line to be king of france just leae mealone" its relly a shame . i signed up again ccause i wasnted to pst the swhole story in the dark side. ill get around to it soetime this week proly. got class and shit you know.
 
Hey guys, got myself some AM-2201 here that i'm vaping off foil. Noticed though that it's often got a very 'sharp' taste, almost like it's stinging my mouth and throat. Is this normal? My first paranoid thoughts were that the molecule was degrading and releasing some free Fluorine.
 
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I would suggest being honest with your doctor if you can in order to receive better care, but most doctors don't really know much about synthetic cannabinoids.
IME nothing good comes from letting your doctor know you use drugs or drink heavily. Not even weed. They almost never help you anyways. They usually just talk down to you like you're thieving, drug-seeking, junkie scum, and stop caring, start acting like a dick and will not give you any controlled drugs ever, even if you need them. Ideally you should tell your doctor everything relevant to your health, but god forbid you get pain or some shit that needs a fun drug to treat it. They need to look out for their career first. However, if you substance use may be the cause of your health problems you should tell them to get a proper diagnosis.

Most of the synthetic cannabinoids are totally new drugs, many of which aren't even tested on rats. They activate the part of the brain that weed works on, the cannabinoid receptors, fully, while THC itself only stimulates that part partially. This is why you can't OD on weed, but some have OD on spice. Because synthetics fully stimulates the cannabinoid receptors it seems you can reach a point with your tolerance where no amount of THC works. When at this level, it seems discontinuing can cause mania in some people. Whether it just unmasks it or causes madness itself I do not know; they are totally new and unstudied. It could do some long term damage we don't know about.
 
you getting a chemical taste just before it turns red/brown if so you are burning it that's what . my last two batches have had a pink tint to them and a horrid alcohol/chemical taste to it to the point if i think of the stuff my body goes into repulsion now i feel physically sick only had this with baby wood rose seeds before
 
Here you go.

Quick jwh video tutorial i made a while back for people asking how to make blends. You gotta sit through a commercial before the video loads.

I've changed my ratios, the video contains an error. Following is for people with very high tolerance

1) 16 oz damania / mullien leaf
2) 450mg JWH-018
3) 350mg JWH-250
4) 350mg JWH-081

Has a great kick, of all the synthetics I have used, this combo seems the most realistic.

There ya go.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say talking to a doctor about synths is not going to help you one bit unless you want to see if you've caused toxic damage to something. A huge percent of doctors don't even know what they're talking about when it comes to weed, much less cannabis synths. I remember roughly 2 years ago my buddy went to the ER (panic attack) after using JWH-018. He was 100% fine after a couple hours, but when the ER doctors asked what he was on, and he replied JHW-018, he had to google it for them. I don't see much having changed in the general medical community.

Also, what Jib said. I can totally see synths contributing to your mental illnesses, and ceasing probably won't help - not in the short term. Obvious best advice is cease usage. It won't hurt you to stop, it may hurt you to continue.
 
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Ur-144

First time posting, fairly new to the RC and synthnoid scene. Having previously only tried RSC-4 and 4-MEC, I acquired a decent sized sample of UR-144 from a reputable vendor (9+ on SoS). I stress that last part because my experience with this compound is somewhat different than most accounts I read. At allergy test doses (<.0005g vaped), both my gf and I felt subtle marijuana-like effects within a minute. I mixed up some 5mg/10ml solution that I then added 10ml to a gram of White Rhino. We took a few hits each, from a pipe, and felt sufficiently indica stoned. However, 30 minutes later I felt pretty close to baseline.

I had read someone suggest 15mg vaped doses, but judging by the effects we were feeling at relatively low doses, a dose that high seemed redundant. But I was still curious, so I weighed out 8mg for myself and 4 mg for my gf (she is ~half my bodyweight). I vaped my 8 mg (the taste was very mild, somewhat sweet, and almost not even there), and waited too long to sit down because it quickly became apparent that at higher doses, UR-144 is a completely different fucking beast. No natural strain has ever effected me like this stuff did, and I've made a habit of sampling haze hybrids. This was slightly dissociative; I can only compare it to a k hole but it was not anywhere near that debilitating. There was a distinct numbness to my sense of touch, but it was not unpleasant. However, the TV all of a sudden was assaulting me with sonic blasts; there was a car chase taking place and every time the engine revved, I was overcome by the sound amplification my head was performing. About 7 minutes later, I stopped going up and started free-falling which felt very good (I've read the experience compared to a rollercoaster ride and I would say that is a good metaphor!). Another 13 minutes passed before the extra euphoria wore off and I felt simply stoned. My gf (smartly) denied her dose so I vaped it and it hit me in much the same way, albeit less intense. One thing I did notice on this second dose was my inability to focus my imagination; I tried to visualize some faces and my mind could only project crude shapes. As the euphoria faded from that hit, I fell asleep.

This morning I had the idea to try again, this time with some loud drum and bass. I vaped 8mg, sat down, closed my eyes and focused on the bassline, letting the UR-144 take me where it would. The first time, I fought it a little, thinking "hey, this is not what cannas are supposed to feel like..." 60 seconds later, I had a wide grin as the sonic amplification of the bassline was almost too much to bear. Certain notes felt like they were tickling my brain. 5 minutes later, the rush was over.

My GF, however, refuses to hit the stuff even in small doses after her 4mg experience this morning. She described being unable to focus on the movie we were watching, instead being drawn into a very dark and violent movie her mind had created, then coming back and finding out only a few seconds had passed. She had no idea who I was when she looked at me, and she said had there been a gun or sharp object around, she may have used it. She is a regular cannabis user and has taken mushrooms many times without a bad trip.

One thing I should add is that we polished off ~3g each of 4-MEC and mushrooms between us the day before we started the UR-144. I'm not sure if we still had metabolites in our system from those that affected our research ;)

My opinion on this compound is that it is a more complete cannabis high than RSC-4 at low doses for sure. At moderate doses, it is pretty intense, almost psychedelic. At high does...well, maybe I'll have something to post about that next week. I have samples of sts 135 and a 834,735 coming also, so I will try and get reports on those synthnoids up ASAP.
 
I uhh, I will admit I do not read my PM inbox very often. I kinda did just swoop in.

Sorry for ignoring the PM lol, glad I somehow helped though

Hey guys, got myself some AM-2201 here that i'm vaping off foil. Noticed though that it's often got a very 'sharp' taste, almost like it's stinging my mouth and throat. Is this normal? My first paranoid thoughts were that the molecule was degrading and releasing some free Fluorine.


That doesn't sound normal to me. IME, never had any sharp or stinging feelings from vaping off foil. No real taste either, and unless the flame gets way, way to close, no real residue either.


Clobbersaurus, everything in your post sounds very normal. Some people can deal, some people can't. RCs are not for everyone, not even close. Watch out for doing too high of a dose, you'd be surprised how quickly it can go from pleasantly psychedelic to overwhelming. If that does happen to you, remember baseline will be very near in under an hour, and if you think you've suddenly, say, gone dyslexic, you probably have not.
 
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I just saw this episode of Crime Inc about Synthetic Drugs and they said they go on drug forums to find out how these substances are being made and taken
 
this should surprise approximately no-one. We are an open forum, law enforcement browses here as well. It'd be silly to think otherwise. BL has become a pretty damn big site, I'm sure a lot of street drug and emerging drug information comes from this website.
 
JWH AM AKB MAM AB UR AM RC mixtures

Hello, I would like to hear your own recipes and mixtures of JWH AM AKB MAM AB UR AM RC and your opinion and the best solution of the mixture.

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