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the toad said:
Never looked into it but i have noticed a lot of the packages claim to be "acetone free"...
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Well the store I went to had it. I took the plunge earlier today and just bought some, as it was pretty cheap. I'll still be doing more research before i start work on my 'new project' though. This liquid is pure clear, the ingredient list contains nothing but "Acetone". And the manager of the store said Yes their Acetone is 'pretty pure' when i asked her the question. ("But she would say that wouldnt she") . Posts I've found elsewhere on the net also say this though.

Now all ive got to do is learn as much as I can about the techniques of making your own blends as i know zilch atm. Only 3.5 Bluelight megathreads and what ever other info i can find on the net to plow though. :\ 8( ( (As it seems I'm not going to get much help here with links or the search terms to use to help find the most useful on topic posts here. :? - This seems a bit strange given how often people are advised and encouraged to make their own blends on here. If i'm being indescreet and this info is meant to kept hard to find, then i apologise. I dont visit this sub-forum much, so dont know the etiquette and stuff of this section of BL :o)

If anyone would prefer to PM me, that would be very much appreciated.
 
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^^Awesome user name. I am a huge Lemonheads fan. Mad props.

That's weird as they list Acetone as the only ingredient. Clean Acetone is allegedly supposed to completely dissipate from the blend if the manufacturing process has been done correctly.
 
Verybuffed said:
^^Awesome user name. I am a huge Lemonheads fan. Mad props.

That's weird as they list Acetone as the only ingredient. Clean Acetone is allegedly supposed to completely dissipate from the blend if the manufacturing process has been done correctly.
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Cheers dude. You're the first person on BL to comment on or recognise where my username comes from. I've loved the band for years, since they released their best albums, and never grown tired of their songs.

I'm a total noob when it comes to making your own blends. I know Ive got a hell of a lot to learn. I know enough to know that you shouldnt try making your own unless you have some idea what you are doing. Hoping i can get some help in finding the best posts on the subject, otherwise Im going to be spending days going through the entire 2.5 synthetic cannabinoid discussion mega-threads.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Cheers dude. You're the first person on BL to comment on or recognise where my username comes from. I've loved the band for years, since they released their best albums, and never grown tired of their songs.

I'm a total noob when it comes to making your own blends. I know Ive got a hell of a lot to learn. I know enough to know that you shouldnt try making your own unless you have some idea what you are doing. Hoping i can get some help in finding the best posts on the subject, otherwise Im going to be spending days going through the entire 2.5 synthetic cannabinoid discussion mega-threads.
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Cool mate. Evan is an absolute legend and a really nice guy.......when he is in the right mood anyway :) Him and Julianna are touring the US and then Australia before the end of the year. I can't wait to catch up with him again.

Google making synthetic cannabis or K2 or something similar. There are a lot of fantastic Teks on there and you will learn how to do it properly in seconds. Make sure you let us know how you go.
 
It's all about using the right search terms. It's not that I'm inexperienced with the internet, but just tweaking the search terms slightly, and ive found a tek video on you-tube within seconds. It looks like an absolute piece of piss to do. I didnt have a clue about the ratios of acetone to chem to herb before or the tech required, but one 4 min clip later, and it looks so easy. I guess I'd be wise to find a few more techs first though, just to get a fuller undertstanding, as there might be many different ways of doing it, some better than others....

This guy used a ratio of 50g of Damiana, "a couple of ml" of acetone (it looked like he used more than 2ml) and 1g of his cannabinoid. Does that sound about right to other people who make their own blends ? Would that ratio produce a strong, moderate or weak blend ? What sort of ratios do you use ?
 
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The internet is big place.

Please don't smoke this stuff if possible. Its caused all kinds of psychotic illnesses and is possibly carcinogenic.
 
Ho-Chi-Minh said:
The internet is big place.

Please don't smoke this stuff if possible. Its caused all kinds of psychotic illnesses and is possibly carcinogenic.
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Yeah, AM-2201 addiction was horrid. Tolerance gets sky high. After being high all day every day for months, you won't need to smoke sub 1mg doses to get blazed, you'll need 50-100mg at a time, and even that will feel weak.

I smoked AM-2201 every 30 minutes for a few months. Only the first one of the day actually felt really good, the others were just to make me not feel like shit for the rest of the day. Towards the end I went through over 2g of PURE powder per day. Quit before you get to this point, it only took a month or so from where I was until weed actually felt like something again. Sorry to sound preachy, but seriously, AM-2201 addiction was far worse than a moderate opiate habit (large oxycodone oral doses) and a RC stim habit. As for being carcinogenic, I had myself checked for all kinds of cancers and conditions since quitting and I'm totally fine, but maybe I just got lucky. If anything, try a weaker synthetic cannabinoid like JWH-250.

Preachy part over. I've looked all over for info on it's half life but found nothing, I'd assume pretty short considering the high only lasts 15-20 minutes.
 
Ho-Chi-Minh said:
The internet is big place.

Please don't smoke this stuff if possible. Its caused all kinds of psychotic illnesses
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Thanks for the advice, I don't know where this community would be without you. Especially since meth, cocaine, speed, weed, and every other drug in the history of mankind has never caused any kind of psychotic issues.8) I'm sure this is the kind of knowledge the OP came here for.8)

keep popping those benzos.
 
transit012 said:
Thanks for the advice, I don't know where this community would be without you. Especially since meth, cocaine, speed, weed, and every other drug in the history of mankind has never caused any kind of psychotic issues8)

keep popping those benzos.
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I've never had any psychotic issues with AM-2201, but it did fuck up my life for a time worse than any other drug could, as it made me a motivationless, lethargic waste of oxygen for a few months and quitting it is hell. And at least other drugs remain fun (mostly) for the duration of your addiction, AM-2201 once it got to the 0.5g+ per day level, (besides the first high of the day which lasts all of 20 minutes) wasn't even fun anymore, it was so I didn't feel like crap.
 
I guess you can say i had a small addiction, everyday for 2 months but only once every 24 hours and doses around 500-700mcg. Going away for 3 weeks so no am-2201 during this period
 
Got some Mullein in, as i saw suggested somewhere. God that stuff smells like the stuffing (i think it's sage and onion) you put in the Christmas turkey and Sunday roast chicken !! Not so sure it'd be nice as a smoke. But I'll have to try now I've bought some...Also got some Damiana. And a little atomizer bottle arrived dead quick. So, all good to go. Quite excited now lol !
 
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icekila said:
I guess you can say i had a small addiction, everyday for 2 months but only once every 24 hours and doses around 500-700mcg. Going away for 3 weeks so no am-2201 during this period
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You'll be fine, you won't get the horrid WDs until you hit the "vaping 20mg an hour" level.
 
JackiesBabyy said:
You'll be fine, you won't get the horrid WDs until you hit the "vaping 20mg an hour" level.
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What are the WD symptoms of AM-2201?. Does tolerance actually rise that high, i never felt that i needed more and the dose was still low
 
icekila said:
What are the WD symptoms of AM-2201?. Does tolerance actually rise that high, i never felt that i needed more and the dose was still low
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Yes, it does when you're smoking every 20 minutes from the minute you wake up until the minute you go to sleep. The WDs are nausea, soul crushing depression, and unbearably strong cravings, you'll literally do anything for just one more vape.
 
Something as potent as AM-2201 must have some bad sides. I do enjoy it though, 1g of it lasts me a few weeks, i have a couple of joints whenever i get a sesh going with some mates, with K and molly it sends you sideways, its amazing.

it just needs to be respected like all drugs
 
Zedoric said:
Something as potent as AM-2201 must have some bad sides. I do enjoy it though, 1g of it lasts me a few weeks, i have a couple of joints whenever i get a sesh going with some mates, with K and molly it sends you sideways, its amazing.

it just needs to be respected like all drugs
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Haha, when I first started 1g lasted me two weeks, at the peak of my addiction 1g lasted me 6 hours, if that. Tolerance is a crazy thing.
 
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