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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 3

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Please try not to bump your own threads - however, I do apologise for no one responding, we've been a bit short staffed lately!

I'm going to move this over to Cannabis Discussion as they cover synthetic cannabinoids :)

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for what it's worth:
i did a gram of a blend based on this thing (from very reliable, well known guys) so can't really say about the dosage, but i was doing bong hits 1/3 of what i usually load with weed.

there is some dissociation, like low dose mxe but nothing like you described, it was quite pleasurable. no twitches or blurred vision, definitely could read (i read a lot of wikipedia while stoned;p).

i was at the edge of your typical cannabinoid panic attack after first hit (underestimated it) but i fixed it fast by distracting myself (ie. making a tea and playing with my cat ;p), so nothing major. went away after couple of minutes and all was good after that. with higher dose i could see it going to a dark place though, that's the one thing i hate about cannabinoids.

anyway, that's the only negative side effect i experienced (not counting uncontrollable fucking munchies, jesus christ).
 
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eurocopa said:
"se me va la cabeza". I could translate this ver well. I've had it happened everytime I used UR.

thats all for now. Comments?
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¡No debes fumar estos sustancias químicas como JWH, UR, K-2... fumas marihuana o hachís siempre! Estos sustancias químicas causen mucho gente para tener mucho ansiedad.
 
There's some long acting ones man, I have one from before the ban, well had one, jwh-210. But taking too much caused shaky eyes and insomnia, and you don't look the same ALL day after getting a little high, so it's too much.

Also your dose seems very high, I find UR-144 a lot better than 5F. For me, 5F is more likely to induce anxiety and also abruptly ends, quickly too. UR-144 feels a little more stoney but overall effect is good. Both combined at a 70-30 ratio is greater than either alone.
 
Interesting I have friends who use blends with both ur 144 & 5F, I always hear the 5f blends are best before bed
 
so I smoked 3 grams of 5f in the past 2 weeks. I find tha although tolerance does grow somewhat quickly, it also goes away quickly too. taking a 24 hour break will do wonders to my tolerance. I'm planning on ordering a gram of ur-144 and 5f tomorrow. I have been eyeballing doses since day 1 and I feel like I would have to go ou of my way to overdose on it. there was one point where I purposely got myself as high as I could on it, but even that was just a little trippier. I really like these because it's cb2 and therefore the withdrawal seems less nausea inducing. I'm finding sources for all kinds of noids, and want to try experimenting with different ones to see which are the best. I know back when 18 was around I loved it, and when 250 came out I loved it equally. Unfortunately since then I haven't found any noids that compare, aside from 5f-ur. any suggestions on what to get next? I wish 18 was still legal, I'd love a nice oldschool blend high instead of the cracky am2201 shit everyone uses.
 
Artificial Emotion said:
God I've heard about this 'fake hash' on the market. It looks, feels, smells and apparently tastes more or less like real hashish, but of course doesn't contain any of the cannabinoids or terpenes present in real resin. People buy the stuff cheaply and add synthetic cannabinoids after heating the stuff to make it pliable. That's how desperate people are and how low people will stoop to just to make a quick buck. The sad thing is most people have either never had any real hashish/charas before and don't know what to look for. Because it gets them high, often very high, they just assume that it must be real. Given the low cost of synthetic cannabinoids there's a lot of money to be made at the expense of the consumer.

This is the problem with resin is it's so easy to add adulterants so there's really no way of knowing for sure that the stuff hasn't been contaminated.
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hey so I am interested in doing this. not for ripping people off but because I've always enjoyed smoking resin from incense. I want to find a relatively safe substrate/resin to use for this. any ideas on what to use? I don't plan on selling it as hash, I would prefer to smoke smaller amounts of resin then plant material and I bet if I used a combination of cannabinoids I could achieve an effect similar to that of smoking blend resin. It'd be nice to get it to taste decent too, I would probably make it 20-25% pure.

speaking of contaminated, does anyone remember the grit weed hysteria that kept popping up around april for a couple years? glass bud they called it? that shit was clearly contaminated. I would add some mint extract when making it, hive it that bomb resin taste you get some times.
 
Using random synthetic cannabinoids

Living where I currently live, I have no access to cannabis.
I also cannot get pure cannabinoids.
The only drug I am somewhat interested in, other than caffeine, that I can get is "legal highs".
They are like Spice or K2, but newer (so that they are not illegal).
I went to the legal herb store, and got 5 mixtures with various names.
I have tried vaping them, so as to not smoke the unknown plant matter, and they are all somewhat similar, feeling like K2 felt, with a cannabis-like high that lasts for 2 hours or so.

On the one hand, it seems risky and stupid to use unknown chemicals.

On the other hand, nobody really knows anything about synthetic cannabinoids, so if I hear a name like "JWH-xxx" it doesn't mean much to me - or to anyone else, since so little is known.
So using random synth. cannabinoid blends the way I have used them isn't really more dangerous or risky than using something pure.
(That said, using pure synthetic cannabinoids is fairly risky/dangerous, due to lack of knowledge. I am just saying that what I have done is not any more dangerous.)

I don't plan to use them frequently - just once a month or so, for an occasional burst of creativity to make music or art.

I don't really have a question, but I would be happy if others commented on /criticized my logic, in case I am too deeply involved to see things clearly. (I really, really want to get high occasionally, so this may be affecting my judgment).

Thanks!
 
All the shops in my town pulled the spice and bath salts off the shelves yesterday morning :\

All they got now is tobacco (tryin to quit), hookah (never been impressed much, certainly not enuf to buy one) and nitrous (never gets old unless u just do way too much without breaks) :)
 
I heard that full CB1 receptor agonists basically fry them and you cannot enjoy your weed anymore. Is that true?
 
the toad said:
Only on the short term... and they dont really fry them they are just stronger than cannabis so it takes a few weeks to get it out of your system and herb starts working again :)
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Thanks! I do appreciate weed far more though. Sadly, it is nearly impossible to come by in my area. But spice and mixes that look like hash... this shit is abundant.
 
1. What is the most sativa-like (still legal) synthetic cannabinoid? AM-2201 was fun but it was far too indica-like.

2. What is the longest duration cannabinoid?
 
OK, I've had some time to do some more research now. Can someone answer this easier to answer question please. Is the supposed 'pure acetone' that you can buy in beauty shops as nail polish remover safe to use to spray cannabinoids onto herbs ? (I know about the H&S aspect of the vapours etc.)

So by 'safe' I mean would the herb be safe for use after 48 hrs when all the acetone should have evaporated, and is this source of acetone suitable ?

Thanks in advance.
 
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