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[MEGA]Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion- 2nd Toke

Vader's right, but the short answer is no. Not ALL synthetics are banned anywhere that I know of... So many haven't even hit the market yet!

EDIT: But in Maryland I know JWH-019, JWH-250, and JWH-398 have been banned. Other than those three and the ones that were banned federally it should be clear sailing.

Cheers!
 
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I've got a Vapor Brothers vaporizer and have 122,2201, and 250. Would there need to be some type of buffer between screen and powder? Not sure if this has been answered.
 
Eating a blend?

Say, I had a premade blend with 35mg/g of am-2201 on damiana leaves. If I ate the leaves, would I get an effect?

I ask because, whenever I hear of someone eating a cannabinoid, they mix pure powder with alcohol and drink it. Could you just eat/gelcap and swallow the leaves?
 
Vader's right, but the short answer is no. Not ALL synthetics are banned anywhere that I know of... So many haven't even hit the market yet!

EDIT: But in Maryland I know JWH-019, JWH-250, and JWH-398 have been banned. Other than those three and the ones that were banned federally it should be clear sailing.

Cheers!

based on some recent precedence setting cases I will have to respectfully disagree,

The cafe' owner of the The Grind in Kansas was convicted of selling "Spice/K3" which happened to contain JWH-081 in it.
JWH-081 is not on the federal ban list, neither is it on Kansas' own state legislation.

A forensic PHd whom has funding from the state testified JWH-081 is "structurally similar" to JWH-018 on the federal ban, this is found in the Analog Act which is supposed to be for products made for human consumption, and the packages confiscated at the store were all clearly labeled "not for human consumption".

SO basically for anyone in the US states if the DA's wants to make a case against you with even so much as 1G of any JWH substance or larger amount of already commercially made spice you are looking at upwards to $10,000 fines and possible years in prison.

There may be a JWH destination that is not an analog or have "structural similarity" to any of the already banned substances, the people who are going to decide whether or not your JWH is "structurally similar" are on the government payroll, so you better have lots of $$$ for a good lawyer and PHD's of your own to testify otherwise if you want to stay out the big house.

jerm
 
^That's fucking unlucky, they usually don't prosecute under the Analog Act, they must have been making an example of the guy, pretty much all the synthetics, all the bath salts, and all the commonly sold psychedelic RCs could be prosecuted under it and usually no-one bats an eyelid.
 
Triple to get the same effect? Seems like a lot, but meh, I've never had an OD panic attack before so I probably won't now.
 
Say, I had a premade blend with 35mg/g of am-2201 on damiana leaves. If I ate the leaves, would I get an effect?

I ask because, whenever I hear of someone eating a cannabinoid, they mix pure powder with alcohol and drink it. Could you just eat/gelcap and swallow the leaves?

I wouldn't suggest gel capping the leaves for the simple reason it may not all come apart at once which will mean portions of it could metabolize at different times which could in turn mean a great deal of time before you feel anything (because only a small amount of it is released) so it could theoretically waste some of it by you not getting the effect off the lower amount initially digested.

My suggestion for any oral consumption of cannabinoids would be to spread it out in another substance (like peanut butter in a sandwich) so that it will all be evenly digested at the same time.
That being said I would suggest using extreme caution with AM-2201, it has been reported by many in the know to have extreme side-effects (vomiting and Nausea and has a high pertinacity for addiction.
If your normal smoking does of AM-2201 consist of 3~5mg(about two hits) a cautious place to start would be no more than 1/4 of your gram of Spice for the same effect, this is one of the ones you don't want to OD on guys, it will take about an hour to kick in so don't does anything in the meantime or you could be in for a terrifying ride.

jerm :)
 
^That's fucking unlucky, they usually don't prosecute under the Analog Act, they must have been making an example of the guy, pretty much all the synthetics, all the bath salts, and all the commonly sold psychedelic RCs could be prosecuted under it and usually no-one bats an eyelid.
cases like this are happening all over, what is being called a "manufacturing ring" in NY was also prosecuted successfully against 10 or more individuals involved, their spice also contained JWH-081 but now the legal precedences are set to use state paid Ph'd's to testify for each substances "structural similarity" to already illegal substances.

jerm :)
 
Triple to get the same effect? Seems like a lot, but meh, I've never had an OD panic attack before so I probably won't now.

Deffinetly not the same effect, lol. It's much, much stronger, and lasts about 5x as long. I've never eaten 2201, but I have had MANY JWH synths. I would recommend 3x your normal smoked amount, e.g. if I smoke 20mg I would eat 60mg. Obviously there is wiggle room in there. I've known a lot of people who have eaten 2x and felt nothing, then the next time eaten 3x and felt like they just ate a 3 gram brownie.
 
Does Tagamet (cimetidine) potentiate cannabinoids? I've heard of it potentiating other stuff such as THC/opiates/DXM.
 
Definatley reccomend the blend called HAZE containing AM-2201 and AM-694 sprayed onto damiana. Went well while chilling and produced crazy shit while smoked on aMT. Lasts around an hour and has a slight chemical / toxic feel but nothing that will annoy you at all. The most like real grass out of all the synths ive tried. Hits you straight away (quicker then usual mj) and has great body high. Something il hopefully get more of soon.
 
Does anyone know of a jwh compound that increases your taste pleasure like mj does? I'm using jwh-122 and i really miss that aspect.
 
Hi Kipo, that's a difficult question. All JWH don't taste anything, from what know ;)
 
i think what kipo actually meant was-
are there any synthetic cannabinoids that make food as awesome as real cannabis does?

i have mg scales and so far my usual dose for AM-2201 is between 1-2.5mg.
pretty interesting chemical, but im definitely weighing EVERY dose after that "incident" i had a while ago.

seizures are not fun.

what doses have people experimented with and up to, and what have the notable effects been at these different dosage ranges?
 
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