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[MEGA]Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion- 2nd Toke
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jeremysdemo
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the head aches are most likely due to the acetone.
the other possibility is the ratio is so low you are losing too much oxygen to the brain trying to smoke all that Damiana to get the effective dose.
short highs like that are indicative of the AM series (especially at lower doses) but highly addictive so be careful.
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jerm, of all the JWHs, which one is the less psychological altering, most body altering? (250 excepted) Thanks
well I haven't tried them all....
and now they are almost all illegal under the Analog act my experience comes to a quick halt (sorry folks I just don't break the law see)That being said oral dosing will bring out the body aspects of most JWH designations (heaviness, lots of burping, torso warmness and numbness in the limbs) did I say this shit effects memory? well it does, and especially selective memory like my own, since I prefer the crisp clear head buzz I'm most likely to remember those JWH designations and purposefully forget the others......
for the little I can remember of the ones that produces what I considered a bad effect in that respect JWH-210 when consumed orally really lit up my torso, my equilibrium, vision, and greatly reduced my cognitive abilities, it was the best I could do to lie down and wait almost an hour staring at the ceiling till it wore off enough for me to walk around again....
why on earth anyone would purposefully want to go though that is beyond me, specially when the same thing can be achieved consuming too much alcohol in a night and toking on a joint.....round and round the room goes...
jerm
Thanks for the response jeremysdemo! I made pills of a blend called happy hour. (presumably jwh-122) I put about .375 (8 pills with 3 grams) per pill. I took one at 7, so far, weird results. Especially since last time i felt zero effects. But the high is similar to your experiences jeremy. Anyway, a quick trip report...
7:00 am- I woke up with the water and pill waiting by my bedside table. I take it swiftly and think 'wow, that could have lasted me days if i smoked it'. I get outta bed to go play modetn warfare 3 with my brother. I know have .375g of the herbal blend in me. This was a day for experimentation.
8:00 am- I feel almost... relaxed? Already? I continue playing and I drink a hot chocolate, mmmm
10:00 am- I am starting to feel the body stone come on. I'm just watching tv now as I ponder the effects. There is almost no mental aspect to this. Strange since a puny hit of this will fuck me up good mentally as well.
12:00 pm- Stong body high still going, no mental aspect at all. Music and food arent that much better, a bit dissapointed.
3:00 pm- starting to wear of a little
5:00 pm- Its... getting stronger?
5:44 pm- That is the current time and it is continually getting stronger. I am now bed-locked but its enjoyable.
I'm wondering why this is lasting so long. Maybe because the pill is releasing in clumps or something?
7:00 am- I woke up with the water and pill waiting by my bedside table. I take it swiftly and think 'wow, that could have lasted me days if i smoked it'. I get outta bed to go play modetn warfare 3 with my brother. I know have .375g of the herbal blend in me. This was a day for experimentation.
8:00 am- I feel almost... relaxed? Already? I continue playing and I drink a hot chocolate, mmmm
10:00 am- I am starting to feel the body stone come on. I'm just watching tv now as I ponder the effects. There is almost no mental aspect to this. Strange since a puny hit of this will fuck me up good mentally as well.
12:00 pm- Stong body high still going, no mental aspect at all. Music and food arent that much better, a bit dissapointed.
3:00 pm- starting to wear of a little
5:00 pm- Its... getting stronger?
5:44 pm- That is the current time and it is continually getting stronger. I am now bed-locked but its enjoyable.
I'm wondering why this is lasting so long. Maybe because the pill is releasing in clumps or something?
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^ I don't live in the US, jerm. And I wasn't speaking of taking it oral, I mix the powder in a tobacco joint
ok, well that is going to limit the choices of JWH designations if a body buzz is the desired goal, smoking 122 gave me the most body buzz which I equate to being bogged down,heavy and tired (classic couch lock like purple haze bud).
If you resist the urge to take a cat nap and push on through the resulting buzz is much like you have been drinking alcohol, little uncontrollable laughter, and a generally sedated feeling.
over on this side of the pond we call that a splint (tobacco & powder) but since I don't smoke tobacco that just makes me turn green and woozy, not an enjoyable feeling when you are high.
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it looks like it took a long time for your body to metabolize the JWH (or whatever it was in "Happy Hour") honestly I have never heard of anyone oral dosing on a commercial blend, (there are just far too many unknown variables to consider) but luckily for you you survived what could have been a deadly event.
under perfect conditions (right dose amount of the actual JWH, right metabolism, and in a organic solvent) it should take about 1~2 hours to take effect and last for 3-4 hours.
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Got some good orange kush tonight, which obviously blows away the synthetic blend!
Also smoking small amounts of the blend with a little tobacco and this weed
Yeah I'm thinking there's some AM-2201 on the blend which gives the heavy hit
Also smoking small amounts of the blend with a little tobacco and this weed
Yeah I'm thinking there's some AM-2201 on the blend which gives the heavy hit
Unbreakable
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AM-2201 & jwh-122 mix
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Paranaoia and fear from Cannabis
For some reason cannabis makes me extremely paranoid and prone to panic attacks. This happens with no other drug. I smoke DMT and 5-MeO-DMT and use strong psychedelics regularly without the same paranoia and strong anxiety I get from cannabis.
In 2004 I got a severe panic attack from smoking a big hit from a bong and got tremors and rushed to hospital. That hasn't really helped the case. Now that thing is always in my mind and I abstain from weed/hashish because of that. However I used to smoke a lot in the early 2000's and had no problems, I enjoyed smoking pot. I'd still like to smoke every now and then but ever since the panic attack I get paranoid and get strong feelings of fear when smoking. I've had a bad acid trip too but I still use LSD today and love it. So why does the problem seem to be cannabis? Rationally one would think the stronger psychedelics would trigger these types of feelings too, but they don't.
Any ideas?
For some reason cannabis makes me extremely paranoid and prone to panic attacks. This happens with no other drug. I smoke DMT and 5-MeO-DMT and use strong psychedelics regularly without the same paranoia and strong anxiety I get from cannabis.
In 2004 I got a severe panic attack from smoking a big hit from a bong and got tremors and rushed to hospital. That hasn't really helped the case. Now that thing is always in my mind and I abstain from weed/hashish because of that. However I used to smoke a lot in the early 2000's and had no problems, I enjoyed smoking pot. I'd still like to smoke every now and then but ever since the panic attack I get paranoid and get strong feelings of fear when smoking. I've had a bad acid trip too but I still use LSD today and love it. So why does the problem seem to be cannabis? Rationally one would think the stronger psychedelics would trigger these types of feelings too, but they don't.
Any ideas?
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Cyanoide
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It doesn't seem to relate to the strain, but THC itself. I don't know, maybe make a really weak spliff and just take really small puffs to get try and get more comfortable. I don't know really. Bongs and big hits are out of the question.
I'm sorry for not searching properly for an existing thread. My bad.
Possible to enjoy weed again?
So I see theres a lot of threads right now about unusual effects of weed. So heres my story. The first couple months that i smoked weed i absolutely loved it. Everything was hilarious and i found everything interesting. I loved it so much that for about 4 months i smoked all day everyday. When i smoked with friends we would smoke huge amounts. We would drive around and smoke those huge swisher blunts(not the regular ones but the ones that are about twice as big around as your thumb). We would smoke these back to back then smoke pipes and bongs the rest of the night. Well I got really burnt out and so i quit for a while which was really hard but i realized weed was having a really negative effect on me.
After a few weeks i tried smoking again and wasnt the same. Almost evertime i smoked i got really paranoid and i couldnt comprehend anything. Now when i smoke i just zone out and im no fun to be around. Anyone else have this experience and eventually enjoyed smoking again? I wish i could enjoy it but i feel like when i quit that first time that i put up a mental block towards weed and now i cant get around it.
So I see theres a lot of threads right now about unusual effects of weed. So heres my story. The first couple months that i smoked weed i absolutely loved it. Everything was hilarious and i found everything interesting. I loved it so much that for about 4 months i smoked all day everyday. When i smoked with friends we would smoke huge amounts. We would drive around and smoke those huge swisher blunts(not the regular ones but the ones that are about twice as big around as your thumb). We would smoke these back to back then smoke pipes and bongs the rest of the night. Well I got really burnt out and so i quit for a while which was really hard but i realized weed was having a really negative effect on me.
After a few weeks i tried smoking again and wasnt the same. Almost evertime i smoked i got really paranoid and i couldnt comprehend anything. Now when i smoke i just zone out and im no fun to be around. Anyone else have this experience and eventually enjoyed smoking again? I wish i could enjoy it but i feel like when i quit that first time that i put up a mental block towards weed and now i cant get around it.
Give it a rest. The effects are negative now, and there's no reason to continue subjecting yourself to negative experiences. After a couple months, if you still have the urge then give it a try again.
There's plenty of people that react to pot this way. For some, it's a temporary thing. For others, they can only continue smoke certain strains (the more common strains that those in this situation would opt for would be indica-dominant) and for others still they find they never enjoy weed the way they used to.
Best of luck in the future. I hope you're able to enjoy it again, but some people just have adverse reactions to marijuana.
There's plenty of people that react to pot this way. For some, it's a temporary thing. For others, they can only continue smoke certain strains (the more common strains that those in this situation would opt for would be indica-dominant) and for others still they find they never enjoy weed the way they used to.
Best of luck in the future. I hope you're able to enjoy it again, but some people just have adverse reactions to marijuana.
shady4091
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Yeah, pot has been an off any on thing in my life. Sometimes I get the anxiety, so I have to quit for a while. This is usually related to something bad or wrong in my life, though and until I correct it I can't smoke without getting bad anxiety.
Many people think getting paranoid when smoking weed is a beginner's effect. Not true. Getting anxious is a common side effect, but it can be overcome. For example, when I smoke and I know people are around who might catch me, I sometimes get that paranoid anxious feeling after I smoke a bowl or two. It usually takes about 5 minutes for it to go away though.
Personally, I think most of the paranoia comes from the stigma it had when we were growing up. Parents or people who don't approve usually mess up those first few minutes for me. Try finding a secluded place, and smoking slowly. Drink plenty of water, and just relax, take deep breathes. One thing I always remind myself to do, especially when smoking blunts, is to take deep breathes.
Also, despite what many people believe, Cannabis is not a social drug. It's only social in the sense of passing around bowls or a blunt, the effects are hardly social. I personally prefer smoking by myself. When I do smoke in a group, it will usually just make me quiet and relaxed, absorbing everything happening around me.
Personally, I think most of the paranoia comes from the stigma it had when we were growing up. Parents or people who don't approve usually mess up those first few minutes for me. Try finding a secluded place, and smoking slowly. Drink plenty of water, and just relax, take deep breathes. One thing I always remind myself to do, especially when smoking blunts, is to take deep breathes.
Also, despite what many people believe, Cannabis is not a social drug. It's only social in the sense of passing around bowls or a blunt, the effects are hardly social. I personally prefer smoking by myself. When I do smoke in a group, it will usually just make me quiet and relaxed, absorbing everything happening around me.
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