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[MEGA]Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion- 2nd Toke

AM-2201, AM-694 and Damiana (HAZE incense blend) + mixing with real cannabis?

I recently ordered 1gram of this shit and im still waiting for it to arrive. I have never taken a synthetic cannabanoid before but smoke mj on a daily basis. Ive read AM-694 shouldn't be consumed but it is contained in the smoking blend and tbh it seems just as toxic as all the other AM and JWH's ive read about so thats not my main concern but maybe someone could A-OK me on this. Another question is what happens if I mix synth with the real deal? Anything negative? WHats the water soulbility like (possible to have bongs?) and are joints effecient or is too much wasted? Also enjoyable to take while on AMT or would it be too much?
 
I dont wanna sound like wtv man but from what i read on these "synthetic cannabinoid" stuff on this forum many people getting negative stuff happening from using it, I would just smoke regular weed man. that way you wont have to worry about anything but thats my 2cents have fun be safe.
 
I also have a g of this on the way but have been smoking a different synth mix tonight.

The Haze mix is pre-made and ready to toke, I would use a bong or pipe but put in 1/3 - 1/2 of what you usually would it working with cannabis bud, then just feel it out.

A lot of people mix it with bud but I wouldn't at first because the Haze will be strong.
 
JWH-018 Solubility

Hey, kinda new to it, but i'm trying to figure out if JWH-018 is fat, alcohol, or water soluble. A little help would be much appreciated.
 
Okay...I have smoked two different blends lately, both impressive, but in completely different ways. One was extremely fast-acting (as in, I could feel its effects before taking even a second toke- and this happened every time I smoked it), very intense (occasionally fear-inducing, always very heavy and artificial feeling) and lasted no longer than 15-20 minutes. The other blend takes much longer to take effect (upwards of 5-7 minutes), is much more of a head-high (eliciting the much sought-after profound revelations that require me to have a pen and notepad handy), is generally more enjoyable, and lasts for a much longer duration -- sometimes its effects will linger for 60-75 minutes or more.

Yes, I know...clearly "blends" have been demonised for their impurities, potency, price, etc. but I have to wait about 2 more weeks before having access to ordering any RCs. My question is, can anyone attempt to hazard a guess at which RCs these blends contain based on the effects I described? Or perhaps at least try to link those effects to distinct RCs that are still legal in the US (ruling out JWH-018,-073,-200, CP47,497, & HU-210)?
The first one sounds similar to reports of AM-2201. The second description sounds alot more like what I would be seeking, but always stay wary. One of my favorite (thought provoking) blends turned out to be cut with 5-MeO-DALT!

Hey, kinda new to it, but i'm trying to figure out if JWH-018 is fat, alcohol, or water soluble. A little help would be much appreciated.
Every aminoalkylindole I have experimented with thus far has been lipid-soluble and soluble in alcohol (ethanol or isopropyl).
 
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WHats the water soulbility like (possible to have bongs?) and are joints effecient or is too much wasted?
Not soluble in water, bongs are fine. I was smoking huge pure joints of my home-made blend, but it was costing me a trivial amount of money.
 
I dont wanna sound like wtv man but from what i read on these "synthetic cannabinoid" stuff on this forum many people getting negative stuff happening from using it, I would just smoke regular weed man.

Keep in mind that there are many people who cannot smoke cannabis because of work/probation/parole/etc; this is one of the main reasons that synthetics are such beautiful discoveries!
 
^ I doubt it'd be a problem. I've smoked synthetics while drinking before (I've even mixed JWH-018 into a shot of vodka and drank it), never caused any problems. Never tried am-2201 but I can't see it being a problem.
 
Awww man... how long will I have to give up MJ for?! That is wack. Im not accustomed with boycotting my weed. I looked @ a few vids describing the ECS and its a little disturbing that its been compromised by the pre-made blends.

well you have to wait long enough for your cannabinoid receptors to readjust their threshold anyway, that's all going to depend on how high they were.

it could be as short as a month, if you were using relatively low doses, but much longer in extreme cases, if if were me after a few weeks of smoking nothing I'd try something like purple haze and test it otherwise you'll just be wastin' the good stuff (mids).

jerm %)
 
Hey, kinda new to it, but i'm trying to figure out if JWH-018 is fat, alcohol, or water soluble. A little help would be much appreciated.
most people use acetone but that stuff has got some wicked drawbacks to it health wise, everclear (grain alcohol) works well IMHO.

be careful with that shit, it ain't no joke and we don't need another statistic on our hands.

jerm %)
 
some may remember i used to be completely against the synthetic cannabinoids but for some reason i thought "fuck it" and bought 2g of AM-2201.
on about 1.5mg~ at the moment. quite enjoyable.
ive had some "interesting" experiences so far to say the least.


lets just say i will be keeping low and stacking doses from now on.
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Anyone try jwh-122 orally? I have to take like 20 times my normal dose orally (rather than smoking) to get high.
 
I've got 3.5g of a local mix, which has a heavy head and body stone (can wear off quite quickly though)

Once my tolerance built up after a few hours I found it best to do a small bong or pipe every 25 mins approx.

Any more (bigger bowls) and I've had mild headache

No way to know which cannabinoids are on the Damiana
 
Anyone try jwh-122 orally? I have to take like 20 times my normal dose orally (rather than smoking) to get high.

yes, but didn't much care for it (*too much of a body buzz not my thing).

a general rule of thumb it takes at least 3X a normal amount to have any effect orally.

That being said, if studies on oral THC ingestion are any indication you need some fatty acids in your stomach to get the full effect out of it (think pot brownies etc)

Also I would be careful with ingesting the crystals without diluting them in some sort of solvent (like Ether alcohol or Everclear) as they may sit around down there before being dissolved and rather than all being processed at once and gradually absorbed you could end up with huge life threatening pulses or the absorptions can be too far apart for you to notice anything.

122 was a bust for me, it gave me rapid heart beat when trying to do moderate physical things (tossing the football around) and made me drowsy so no alert and functional head high was achieved with it, orally the heavy body was worse than smoking tho.

jerm %)
 
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