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Opioids Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread - Part II

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Poppy Pods & Depression

My question is: How effective are poppy pods in treating depression (compared to other opioids)?

I've used a lot of narcotics for quite a while however I've never touched a needle. The methods of administration I used were oral, snorted/insufflated as well as smoking (chasing the dragon). Oh..and about 3-4 times plugged until I realized that I was literally putting drugs up my ass!

My experience is with narcotics such as oxycodone, hydrocodone, hydromorphone, fentanyl, codeine, morphine, demerol, methadone, heroin as well as kratom & pods.

I only smoked/chased the dragon with fentanyl and heroin. My most common ROA was oral with the exception for opioids with very low bioavilability such as demerol, hydromorphone and morphine.

I have found the withdrawl from poppy pods to be in many respects worse than the withdrawl from other opioids, especially when it comes to mental symptoms (extreme depression, much worse than other opioids).

When I take poppy pods I don't get as euphoric as with other opioids but I always seem to get complete relief from depression, which with other opioids is not as pronounced as with pods. The best way to describe the feeling is as 'pushy', kind of like MDMA/MDA or cocaine with that kick/jolt and a kind of pushing force/drive that ensures I get the anti depressant effect.


P.S. The way I consume the poppy pods is by eating it straight up (kratom too as well), crushed finely to a light/dust like powder. I can get 5-7 medium/big pods down this way at once with no problems. The reason I do it this way as opposed to tea is b/c in my experience it lasts an extra half of the duration of tea (for me tea usually wears off in a few hours, like 3hrs and its gone at +4hrs). Also the effects are different since the water destroys or at least takes away from the potency of various alkaloids (hence the reason people do multiple infusions on the same batch). I find this method much more sedating, longer lasting, requires less quantiy (ex: if 5 pods in tea get you a buzz you will need 2-3 pods this way to get that) and I find it overall more efficcient than tea.
 
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I'd say they are fantastic at treating depression... for a while. All opiates that I touched completely removed any sense of depression I was feeling though, including kratom and the handful of experiences I had with percocets 2 years ago.

The problem seems to be that once tolerance kicks in, the antidepressant (or shall I say euphoric?) effects begin to disappear. Even raising the dose doesn't give me what I'm after when my tolerance to pods begins to get high enough. And of course, should you find yourself in unexpected withdrawals like I am now, you will be feeling much more depressed than you were to begin with.
 
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There seems to be a misunderstanding that grapefruit juice actually has an effect on drug metabolism in the liver, but AFAIK this is actually not the case. GFJ only inhibits liver enzymes in the bowels (or intestines). So normally when you take a dose of morphine, the liver enzymes in your stomach and intestines gets a wack at breaking down the morphine before it can even be absorbed into the bloodstream. GFJ inhibits those enzymes and will result in more morphine in the bloodstream (and thus the brain too).

I don't know if the same liver enzymes that metabolize morphine in the guts also metabolizes codeine, but even if it does I would imagine that morphine is the primary cause of effects in poppy tea, codeine is probably only a minor contributor.

Holy fucking shit!!! I know this belongs in the Trip Reports section but I thought you guys might like to hear about it here. I got high on pods last night and at the peak started inhaling Nitronox (50% O2; 50%N2O) and I was in absolute fucking heaven. It was even better than a speed ball and the euphoria lasted and lasted and lasted. I think I'm in love. I managed to get through a whole cylinder! It was beautiful. The detached feeling was lovely.
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Heh, I never tried combining the two but I could imagine it being pretty euphoric. Sounds a little risky though - I wouldn't be surprised if the combination of the two could cause more respiratory depression than either alone. Be careful AE.
 
poppy pod tea tapering advice and help

hi i've been using poppy pod tea about once a week or more since february 2009, and since near the beginning of august i started taking poppy pods daily. i've never gone through any type of opiate w/d before so i'm kind of nervous. i normally take an average of 6 xl strong pods a day sometimes more or less, but usually not much less. i used to eat them straight half the time or more but now i try to stick to tea, as i figure it might make the withdrawal better. also i barely ever get much of a high at all anymore, even when i take a lot more than my maintence dose, which is like 1 cup or 2 large ground up pods or so, which lasts 24+ hours before much w/d, but i don't feel that great, just barely above w/d).

i'm thinking of stopping use in a few days so i'll still probably have some pods left in case of an emergency. i also got 17 7.5 mg hydrocodone, so i figure that should help unless it doesn't really affect me b/c of tolerance, but i hope it will a little in desperate times. also, i think i'll have 15-20 2mg clonazepam too, so i figure that will be good. will i be in any danger of benzo dependence if i end up going through all these during the w/d?

i plan on getting a quad of weed (maybe more), 200 2mg loperamide, 100 220mg naproxen, 50 25mg doxyalmine, various vitamins, 5htp, l-tyrosine, alcohol, and some healthy/easy to eat food. also i was unable to get any clonidine.

so could you please give me some advice on opiate w/d and poppy pod tea/straw w/d specifically? i've never even experienced any type of w/d before so i don't know what to expect personally. does pod w/d last longer and more intense or less than heroin w/d? should i try to taper my pod dosage down a lot more before starting this? when can i expect to be able to function pretty much normally again (be able to do everything i could when high - work, college, etc)? thanks!

ps. i know this type of question has been asked a lot, but i have a lot of specific questions so i figured a new thread would work better.
 
whats with people and poppy pods? i mean how high can you really get?

curious cause i see like 4 or 5 threads on the first page alone

why not just go get some heroin or some pills?
 
6 pods a day is not alot although potency varies quite a bit. I had a pt habit for 4 months and was up to 20 large 6-8 in pods a day everyday and i spend alot of time shopping around for maximum potency. I had kicked many other opiates before kicking pt so i have a broad range of comparison. There was never a time where the wds were excruiating as they were with heroin but they lasted much longer similar to methadone wd which makes sense seeing it is a much longer acting opiate. I used loperamide and and valerian primarily and experimented with kratom for the first 5-6 days. After a week of servere insomnia I got an ambien script. Lops in high doses worked surprisingly well but I think it may have streched out the wds as risiduals lasted almost 2 weeks. The kratom actually got me out of bed the first couple days and I was fully functional and in a great mood for up to 5 hours but I did experience a crash. The ambien relieved my insomnia effectively but I did have one experience with unconscious behavior. I recommend high doses of lop initially with a substantial taper after the first 4 days and benzos at night for insomnia. Weed will not help at all with opiate wds anyone who says they do is full of s**t and it could worsen the possible opiate related depression. Kratom has different results for different people and there is probably no harm in giving it a try although it is a quasi opiate and can cause mild to moderate wd so best not to use it habitually. I would recommend valerian over kava if your going herbal. good luck
 
Kitchen methods for smokable resin from dried pods?

Any tips or methods around here? Is it worth it?
 
not too sure myself, only tried poppy seed tea once myself and didnt get much out of that because of my tolerance.

i'll merge this into the poppy thread for you
 
mega merge combo. come on guys, use the mega threads, its really not that difficult to use these things. we don't come on here simply to perform these monotonous tasks
 
yeah i was just hoping maybe you guys could leave my thread on w/d on the front for now so people can see it for a few days and then merge it later? thanks! also would weed be bad for w/d even if its my doc and i smoke everyday usually?
 
I figured out why I was losing so much water in the end product, I wasn't using enough to begin with. Instead of using 2.5 cups for 17-18 jumbos i increased it to 3 cups, and now the end result yields almost the same amount as with what i startedl
 
Potent poppy seed tea (make it more potent)

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you will need 3 pounds of poppy seeds, lemon juice concentrate, and a coffee maker
1. put poppy seeds in coffee maker inside coffee filter

2. fill coffee machine with half filled with lemon concentrate and half filled with water

3. start coffee machine till the tea is done

4. when done put the tea back in the coffee machine where you put the water and lemon concentrate with same the same poppy seeds or a new filter with unsoaked poppy seeds ( just only use a batch poppy seeds 2 times in the machine and then throw them out)

5. you can do step 4. as many times as you want mattering how much poppy seeds you have. this with help make a batch poppy tea more potent


ive tried this my self its great
 
I would be careful using 3 lbs. That one kid overdosed on 1 pound and supposedly he often used even more than that, but he wasnt used to a stronger batch of seeds.

Always test the waters with a new batch.




Anyone ever make resin?
 
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