Opioids Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread - Part II

[ArtVandalay]

I experimented with grounds for a brief period. Even mixed with soy yogurt, I choked a few times- it felt like my throat was being torn up. Had some painful shits too. Neadless to say, I've stuck with tea ever since. The high is better anyway.

 

[CoMpMsTa]

^about the ebay & paypal thing, kratom sellers are also removed since about 10 days ago, seems like they're onto something...
next up... my guess is salvia...

I've purchased Salvia about 2 years ago. My sister a few months ago asked me where to buy it. She went to the smoke shop only to be told "Salvia is now illegal in many states, including this state"

So yea, Salvia is already illegal in some states.

 

[dankoni]

I've purchased Salvia about 2 years ago. My sister a few months ago asked me where to buy it. She went to the smoke shop only to be told "Salvia is now illegal in many states, including this state"

So yea, Salvia is already illegal in some states.

Yea... that law is a bit ridiculous (as are most drug laws). Someone living near Philly in Pennsylvania can legally buy salvia. They could have a pound sent to their house for maybe $50? They take that same package 20 minutes down the road to Delaware and it's the same as being caught with a pound of LSD. $50 and perfectly legal in one location, 20 years to life in prison after a 20 minute drive. GG US drug policy.

 

[syntheticflag]

Does anyone else put a ton of sugar in their tea? SWIM has a strong tolerance and uses 10-15 pods per cup and 3 cups of water, steeped for 30 min and filtered. Then she adds 8 heaping tablespoons of sugar. I guess it's good for her brain considering the fact that sugar is converted to glucose which is good for it, and the remainder is sort of an energy boost in the morning.

 

[syntheticflag]

Grinder

SWIM also has a $10 grinder, and notices that if she breaks the pods into small pieces it it easier on it, 2 years of grinding and no problems with it burning out. If she uses the knuckles, she breaks them with a pair of pliers until they are in small pieces, and cuts the stems into small 1/2 inch pieces. With the knuckles and stems additional grinding time is required, like 30 to 40 seconds, combined with vigorous shaking at the same time. By the way, 15 stems & knuckles = 1 pod. She always saves them for dry spells, it is labor demanding task but it keeps her going. She advises keeping them just in case.

 

[Rexeh]

Quick question: 500 grams of Mexican prickly poppies worth anything? (grounds, but grinding them into fine powder and using gelcaps is an option)

Please reply ASAP before I lose control and try them (can take 40 mg Oxy w/ no probs)

Peace o/

 

[dankoni]

Quick question: 500 grams of Mexican prickly poppies worth anything? (grounds, but grinding them into fine powder and using gelcaps is an option)

Please reply ASAP before I lose control and try them (can take 40 mg Oxy w/ no probs)

Peace o/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argemone_mexicana

I've heard some people smoke prickly poppy, so you can research that if you want, but what you have doesn't contain (as far as I know) any opiates whatsoever.

 

[QuasiStoned]

Apparently i've been wasting my pods or something. or maybe i just managed to drop my tolerance by 50% in a weeks time.

a few weeks back i was doing 1/2 cup mid day and 1/2 cup around midnight, always eaten. for a week or so i was doing a cup at midnight. 2 weeks ago i was out of money and pods, so i was basically scraping by. i let myself get sick when i could afford to and tried whatever i could do to not be sick for work. this went on for 4-5 days and then i got paid.

now though, i only use 1/4 cup of pods twice a day. once a day wont really hold me till the next day and it seems to take me more to get a buzz when im sick, so i usually do a 1/4 cup early, around 12-3 PM, and 1/4 later around 11 or 12.

i've been getting higher off these 1/4 cups then i've been off 1.5 cups. i feel like i've been wasting my pods when i ate that much. i dont know if i did or not but i was eating a lot of powder, so maybe a lot of the goodies didn't work with all that crap in my stomach.

i did start smoking weed again, but onyl at night. 1 bowl on top of my normal dose will get me nodding harder then if i tripled the dose and didn't smoke. still though, during the day i definately feel high. it really comes down to the pods.

just thought i should share that i did a lot of complaining in this thread about how i wasn't getting high with large amounts, and now i am with small amounts, so im happy.

I think that you have noticed that taking even a short break can really bring back the effects. I try to take breaks often but it's really hard to balance out your life in opiate withdrawals

 

[Rexeh]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argemone_mexicana

I've heard some people smoke prickly poppy, so you can research that if you want, but what you have doesn't contain (as far as I know) any opiates whatsoever.

I usually only post questions like these whenever my research leads to various different sources which are contradicting each other, just posting a standard Wikipedia link is well... pretty much useless then hmm?

Maybe as a community we can try to actually be active into researching various strains which are maybe possible great finds like the original poppy once was or Ephedra (and mushrooms in my own country for example). There are so many plants and herbs which may be useful we don't even know yet... someone has do play lab rat sometimes and I find the lack of interest pretty low, think about it: why would it suddenly be sold in special bags from the same vendor that sells me Mescaline, DMT, or other quality stuff like Ayahuasca, P. somniferum seeds, or most herbals listed at Erowid like Guarana, LSA, Ginseng, White Lily etc.? (and ofcourse they won't say it contains Morphine or Codeine, would you?)

I will post my current findings and I hope some Bluelighters could help me without simply trying it (Harm Reduction FTW! ))

Wikipedia.org - Argemone mexicana (Mexican Poppy, Mexican Prickly Poppy or Cardosanto) is a species of poppy found in Mexico. The seed-pods secrete a pale-yellow latex substance when cut open. This argemone resin contains berberine and protopine, and is used medicinally as a sedative.[citation needed]

Berberine seems to act as an herbal antidepressant. Berberine inhibits prolyl oligopeptidase (POP) in a dose-dependent manner. Berberine is also known to bind sigma receptors like many synthetic antidepressant drugs. As berberine is a natural compound that has been safely administered to humans, preliminary results suggest the initiation of clinical trials in patients with depression, bipolar affective disorder, schizophrenia, or related diseases in which cognitive capabilities are affected, with either the extract or pure berberine. New experimental results suggest that berberine may have a potential of inhibition and prevention of Alzheimer's disease (AD) mainly through both ChEs and beta-amyloids pathways, and additionally through antioxidant capacities

Taxonomy
The APG II system (2003; unchanged from the APG system of 1998) places the family in the order Ranunculales, in the clade eudicots. However, APG does provide for the option to segregate two families, as optional segregate. Thus, there are two possible circumscriptions:

Papaveraceae sensu lato, including the plants that would otherwise form the families Fumariaceae and Pteridophyllaceae.
Papaveraceae sensu stricto, excluding these plants.
The family sensu stricto conforms to the family as recognised by the Cronquist system, of 1981 (Cronquist recognised Fumariaceae as separate). This comprises about 26 genera and about 250 species. The description given above applies to the family in this narrow sense.

You see it's quite easy to get lost on Wikipedia or Erowid and I don't trust them really as Erowid's dosage for OxyCodone users with heavy tolerance is listed at a mere 40 - 60 mg and one Opiod FAQ said Codeine was made for IV/IM/SC etc... 8)

I guess I'll snort some oxy and smoke some Cannabis since this confuses me LOL :D

Peace o/

 

[dankoni]

I usually only post questions like these whenever my research leads to various different sources which are contradicting each other, just posting a standard Wikipedia link is well... pretty much useless then hmm?

I posted a simple wiki link because anyone doing 20 seconds of searching could tell you that prickly poppies do not contain any opiates. I figured you had not searched at all since you asked such a simple question. I told you some people smoke it, but not for any opiate high. I guess I just won't make the mistake of trying to help you again. I think the fact that you wanted those poppies to contain opiates might have clouded your "research."

 

[Larson0]

I think that you have noticed that taking even a short break can really bring back the effects. I try to take breaks often but it's really hard to balance out your life in opiate withdrawals

it really does. it is hard though. i dread taking these breaks, or breaks at all. last night and the night before i took enough to get high instead of enough to sustain me, so i kinda fucked myself. i didn't want to but at the same time having a few cold turkey days cant hurt. actually, it will hurt like hell, but it will make it sooo much better when i get high in 5 days.

im in the same position i was back when i took my last break. ran outta money cause of rent, ran outta pods, outta weed, etc. i took my last dose (1/4 cup) an hour ago, so hopefully it will hold me till about 6-7 tomorrow when i get done work. after that i have a day off, then a day of work, then i get some money.

so as of now, saturday night, i wont be doing any painkillers until Wednesday at 9AM or 5PM. hope i can get my guy before i gotta work 8 hours alone


and to the guys about the grinders...i always grind mine up into flour-like consistency. sometimes there are small pieces but nothing larger than a small pill. pretty rare too.

 

[Levvytation]

Apparently i've been wasting my pods or something. or maybe i just managed to drop my tolerance by 50% in a weeks time.

a few weeks back i was doing 1/2 cup mid day and 1/2 cup around midnight, always eaten. for a week or so i was doing a cup at midnight. 2 weeks ago i was out of money and pods, so i was basically scraping by. i let myself get sick when i could afford to and tried whatever i could do to not be sick for work. this went on for 4-5 days and then i got paid.

now though, i only use 1/4 cup of pods twice a day. once a day wont really hold me till the next day and it seems to take me more to get a buzz when im sick, so i usually do a 1/4 cup early, around 12-3 PM, and 1/4 later around 11 or 12.

i've been getting higher off these 1/4 cups then i've been off 1.5 cups. i feel like i've been wasting my pods when i ate that much. i dont know if i did or not but i was eating a lot of powder, so maybe a lot of the goodies didn't work with all that crap in my stomach.

i did start smoking weed again, but onyl at night. 1 bowl on top of my normal dose will get me nodding harder then if i tripled the dose and didn't smoke. still though, during the day i definately feel high. it really comes down to the pods.

just thought i should share that i did a lot of complaining in this thread about how i wasn't getting high with large amounts, and now i am with small amounts, so im happy.

I've found the exact same thing to be true, and agree its probably to do with the amounts of powder in the stomach being too much. Spacing out spoonfulls is definately the way ahead...

Putting less pod material in your blender on each grind gives you finer powder as well. And thats what you want, the finer the better.

Another handy tip folks....stick your pod powder in the deep freeze for 20mins before eating, it removes all the aroma/taste and is SO much nicer to consume! Try it & tell me it ain't true...

 

[Neo Incapacitator]

Ive got a quick question. I recently got some fresh poppy pods. Now the question is can i make poppy tea from the fresh pods? How do i make the tea with fresh pods?

 

[dankoni]

Ive got a quick question. I recently got some fresh poppy pods. Now the question is can i make poppy tea from the fresh pods? How do i make the tea with fresh pods?

I've never done it, but I would just make it the same way you would with dried pods. You might have to use scissors instead of a blender/grinder and you might have to let them steep a tad longer, but I think the same principles apply.

 

[Neo Incapacitator]

How many pods would cause a overdose assuming it is papaver somniferum?

 

[daddysgone]

How many pods would cause a overdose assuming it is papaver somniferum?

Absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to answer. Anyone who gives you an answer other then this one is full of shit. Even if we knew your exact opioid tolerance, when dealing with a natural product like pods, there is SO much variance in pod size, pod type, alkaloid content, growing conditions, time of harvest etc etc etc etc-that answering this question is not possible.

 

[Larson0]

Absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to answer. Anyone who gives you an answer other then this one is full of shit. Even if we knew your exact opioid tolerance, when dealing with a natural product like pods, there is SO much variance in pod size, pod type, alkaloid content, growing conditions, time of harvest etc etc etc etc-that answering this question is not possible.

A MILLION! %)

fa real! death!

 

[daysonatrain]

poppy pod comparison

i have a question about poppy pods that i couldnt find an answer in by searching. for those out there with pod experience would you recommend buying a certain size over another? basically, if the giant pods were weight for weight the same cost as the medium pods, is one better (more potent) than the other?

guess if this turns into a thread about how pods can vary intensely in opiate content you can shut this down.

just wondering if anyone has any personal experience or recommendations.

thanks

 

[w01fg4ng]

I unfortunately have way too much experience with pods.

If your source as you say has weight for weight the same price, then get the bigger pods. They will have a little more, if not a lot more alkaloids in them than the small ones.

Don't forget to mix your whole batch together at once, spreading the doses out as evenly as possible. Start at a low dose to get a feel. It's easy to mess this one up.

Also, you are probably going to want to get both some constipation and diarrhea medication as this stuff will turn your stomach upside down (constipation while you are on it and diarrhea during withdrawals).

Have fun. Be safe.

 

[Unknown]

Merging with poppy pod thread