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Magic Mushrooms/ Psilocybin in the UK

Depends how you take them tho swamp - if I capsuled Thai and then told you they were "mexican, you'll feel righteously mellow and see lots of mexican imagery" you well might.

I know there was all the marketing hype about "Thai are giggly, mexican are righteously mellow, Cambodian are a bodyhigh" but that was all complete and utter shite.
 
Oh, yeah, I don't doubt that. I guess I'd class that more as mind-trickery than placebomine though.

I agree it's probably all marketing hype but I need to do more extensive research..
 
I believed the hype for years. I had one cookie jar full of cubensis capsuled and one full of philosophers stones capsuled and I was convinced that the stones wern't as visual as standard cubensis. Then one day I had the most visual trip I'd ever had. The morning after I realised I'd taken the capsules from the wrong jar and I'd tripped on the stones instead. That's when I finally realised it was a load of bollox.
 
Normally I'm all over agreeing about just about everything with you Issy....but I have to disagree on this! I can't speak much on the differences between cubensis strains....but I grew up in the Pacific Northwest of the USA....home to over a dozen drastically different active Psilocybes...

Some of the differences are pretty stark! I know they shouldn't be, but say, azurescens vs semilanceatas? Night and day. Baeocystis, cyanescens, stunzii...they all vary quite a bit, and it isn't just the difference in psilocybin and psilocin content..baeocystin shouldn't be active, but those that have it have a markedly different nature...

Scientific? No. I never put them to the blind test...Not personally. But those I supplied them to would choose other varieties over azurerescens even though the azurescens were much more potent....they tended to produce a darker, more DMT like trip, even adjusted for dosage, less "light"...even dimwits that knew nowt about them commented on such...

Why? Fuck if I know. I really don't like it but IME it seems to be true??
 
Yeah I'm more willing to believe different species feel different than different strains of cubensis amanitadine.
 
Ismene said:
Yeah I'm more willing to believe different species feel different than different strains of cubensis amanitadine.
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You've nailed it! Any variation in effect within Genus is probably down to those infamously unpredictable & subjective psychedelic effects we all wrestlle with. I'm not enitrely discounting the possibilty that natural variation in the levels of active compounds within the Genus & the relationship between Psilocin & Pslocybin having an effect of the trip type coz it's possible.

But once you start comparing completely differing genus of psychedelic mushrooms with one another the variation of effects between them are almost undeniable & are backed by identifying & quantfying data such as that which Sam G & I were debating earlier.
 
I've always leaned towards tripping is tripping, set and setting, all else is marketing.

Then I took 2c-I and realised that was psychedelics made the Tesco value way so maybe there are slight differences. ;)
 
... & now we've got new psychedelics being added regularly to the hundreds already known & they pretty much ALL bring, at the very least, some small, unique aspect to the experience & in some cases remarkably unusual effects in comparison to the establised psychedelics, such as say, Liberty Caps or LSD.
 
Izzter said:
Wouldnhat just be the placebomine ho monsta?
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That's what I meant mate - Sorry I should have made that clearer :)
And yr right = If the shrooms were dried and capsuled then the trip would purely be influenced by set n setting et al ;)
 
Bearlove said:
If I could buy you a box of Mexican, a box of Thai and then a box of Hawaiins you would realize how wrong your post it.
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Truthquoted. The various strains can have significantly different effects (bearing in mind Set & Setting also play a big part as with all psyches). If a person has tried a variety of strains and can't see the differences they either just ain't very observant or got ripped off. Differences between species even more marked.
 
What's people s thoughts on cubensis vs libies? For me I much prefer libies. I find them much more kind and without the harsh dark edge cubensis can have. I can't remember having a bad time on a libies trip.
 
Shambles said:
Truthquoted. The various strains can have significantly different effects
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How are you taking them tho shammy? If you know you're taking the "giggly strain" then that's got to have an influence on you. If I was giving you them dried and capsuled so you hadn't a clue what they were how confident are you that you could "name that species in one"?

As I say I used to think I could tell the difference until I happened to take some from the wrong cookie jar and didn't have a clue. I don't think I'd lose much money giving people different species in capsules and betting them a grand to name me the species.

Si Ingwe said:
backed by identifying & quantfying data such as that which Sam G & I were debating earlier.
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Is that data based on people getting given unknown species in capsules tho Ingwe? I mean - once you know it's the "righteously mellow" mushrooms then surely that's going to influence you?
 
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Sorry I wasn't aware we were talking about differences in the same strain. Even with the Hawaiians there were a few different types going about but when they were legal and available over the counter by post next day etc I believe the Blue Hawaiians (also called Blue Meanies) were Copelandia Cyanescens .
 
Thinking a trip to Epping Forest is in order on Sunday. Thing is, the hobby of mycological harvesting is ILLEGAL there. Just don't know how well it's enforced
 
spudgun said:
Thinking a trip to Epping Forest is in order on Sunday. Thing is, the hobby of mycological harvesting is ILLEGAL there. Just don't know how well it's enforced
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Yeah, I suspect it'll take them a few weeks to start popping up down south.. North tends to get them first and it's still very early.

joe90 said:
The thought of being on strong psychedelics make my ass tighten.
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..is that a good thing or not?
 
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