Last night I had a few drinks of vodka. And had a vial of Buzz in a drink of vodka... felt a slight (could be placebo or alco effect creeping in) rush after about 5 minutes.. it built up over about 30 minutes into a nice feeling.. nothing very special, i don't know if it would of got more intense because i double dropped two ENERGY (pics posted by me above).
I contiunued drinking more and felt it creep up on me. I was pretty munted after 30 minutes of double dropping then I felt some pretty intense skin tingles, my haior was standing. I was getting massaged though. I felt like the after effects of ecstasy, but no mindfuck at all..
The combo felt like it was strongish at times, notihng like some massive MDMA dose, but it was the high I was looking for because I was with a girl. I didn't want my eyes crossing and going into the back of my skull and shit, while talking to imaginary people. So in the end the combo costed as much as a pill would cost bought off the streets. The rushes, skin tingles, hair raising and goosebumps were quite intense at times, especially when you've got a girl with you and you're carressing each other. No mindrambles (that cracked out phase of a meth comedown or even pills sometimes) until the next morning. But it wasn't hard to get out of. It did make me stay up so I knocked myself out with more vodka later on around 4am with more vodka and 30mg valium, 1.5mg xanax and 2mg clonazepam. Woke up at Ten thirty next day... As i said didn't feel overly cracked out but I did have a dry throat but It was because I found and took 6 caps of this herbal breast enhancement supplement (because it contained L-Tyrosine) and I wanted my dopamine back a bit as I knew I was shooting up meth the next day with a mate and thought these legals could of ruined my dopamine levels... The capsules she used to take, but doesn't anymore semeed to give her a bad sore throat the next day and even make her sick with prolonged use, plus she reported they never worked, just some scam with a bunch of BS vitamens and stuff in it.
I underestimated it but it wasn't overly strong, nor weak. Spending the night with a girl thiough and the nice ambient setting could of helped it.
I remember one stage smoking a cigarette solo outside, and my neck twists and stretched felt just as good as a pill would, but without that totally euphoric push. I may buy some more and try tripple dropping with some Buzz again and maybe a U4E or 2 (if i dig them outta my garbage bag.. only beer bottles in it anyeway and theyre cased(, and not having any alcohol at a rave setting or Brissie club that plays hard trance or freeform/hardcore and see how iot goes.
But I must tell you, I have been told that there was been a warning issued by the people that make those ENERGY - Feel the Rush pills (the pic I posted a few posts up) that some of the capsules may have been stronger in the latest shipments and they have told the place selling them to ignore the (4 caps = 2 doses instructions) and take one at first, or read the back where it says if taking two space them apart as some people threw up or thought double dropping was more than they expected from a herbal high.
Which brings me to this question... Can octapamine actually be causing these effects? Does it cross the blood brain barrier properly or get absorbed , or needs some other chemical (such as passionflora or saomething, or a slight MAOI) I mean, from what I read it's got the same pharmacology as say between ephedrine and pseudoepherdrine.. Can these free form amino acids listed on all these new herbals highs be something else they dont want to disclose. not scheduled, but something they don't want to let out so it can be imitated or made illegal quicker? And if so how much research has even been done on it? Could be more dangerous or neurotoxic than MDMA or meth, even if the feeling is weaker compared to illicits.
I mean the Neo Doves certainly showed us that by saying free form amino acids as the ingredients there was something else in it.. an amino acid could be anything.
