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I actually enjoyed BZP when it was mixed with TFMPP in the Kiwi party pills.

So yeah, what is the dosage? I have no idea what the dilution is, so if someone has used something similar before please let me know...
 
A bit over the standards old bottles. Fuck all really. Not worth it. Buzz and Cherry Pop are better . Cherry pop you can sleep on, Buzz keeps you up, same euphoric components without the piperazine nasties other shit have.
 
Wait for the new wave of herbal/legal druigs soon, coming to Australia :)
With full ingredients list.
 
No, and neither is Peyote. Only Mescaline (and analogues when eaten). They are both perfectly fine plants to obtain ALIVE or about to be planted. Obviously not in any type of edible form or extraction.

I see a lot of San Pedros in peoples gardens and relative cactii, but I haven't deemed myself that much of a cunt to rip them off yet... it would make the trip guilty and the Cactii Gods wouldn't be happy! I've also seen a Peyote and San Pedro plants growing at mexican restaurant on the outside eating part in their gardens.
 
chopped_chimp said:
I actually enjoyed BZP when it was mixed with TFMPP in the Kiwi party pills.

So yeah, what is the dosage? I have no idea what the dilution is, so if someone has used something similar before please let me know...
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Yeah. It ain't the best drug in the world, but a lot of people enjoyed them. 26 million pills consumed by 400,000 people on 9.5 million occasions over 7 years are the statistics from NZ. No deaths or significant lasting injuries. In the right dose and without alcohol they were obviously enjoyed looking at the repeat business, but if the TFMPP levels are to high or the dosage is too high, or your system doesn't like the metabolites you could feel pretty seedy afterwards.

Sorry can't help on dosage of Australian (presumably liquid) products.

I'd advise you start low and give it 90 minutes to kick in before re-dosing, or wait until you have heard from somebody who used that product previously.
 
I think its threads like these that end up making certain plant/plant preparations illegal. DMT will never be controlled very well, but all the mention of ... in this thread would certainly have raised eyebrows.
 
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^Interesting theory, comes up from time to time, is there any evidence to support this theory?

When substances become illegal there needs to be a robust paper trail of discoverable documentation on file to put such restrictions on personal freedom - is there anything anybody has seen in the discoverable paperwork to suggest that bluelight threads are being used as evidence of use and or abuse of certain plants/preparations in your location?
 
^Eh, no eveidence, except for the huge mentioning of a specific brand of entheogenic 'incense' stupidly labelled dreamtime or changa- and the fact the the sellers of said incenses no longer sell any of there incensey wares anymore. In no way was the dreaming time 'illegal' as nothing it was prepared from is illegal. But it had effect; I can vouch that is is defintely DMT; and the store owners simply firgures thatsomeone either got frightened by the effects or disappoined, and the wrong people found out
 
willow11 said:
I think its threads like these that end up making certain plant/plant preparations illegal. DMT will never be controlled very well, but all the mention of dreamtime in this thread would certainly have raised eyebrows.
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agreed, in the end i feel as if it will get controlled more and more, its only a matter of time and chinese whispers that went to the wrong person.
 
Has anyone had any experience with Pillz brand "Energy" caps?

A buddy is thinking of eating some tonight and just wanted some opinions, experiences, interactions etc.

Mods please delete if any of this is appropriate.
 
I think its threads like these that end up making certain plant/plant preparations illegal.
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That maybe so, but from a harm reduction perspective users need to be able to make an informed choice based on what's known of the active ingredients. That's the fundamental basis of HR, but for that to happen requires both disclosure from manufacturers/suppliers, and discussion by users. This is even more important when considering compounds or extracts for which there is little to no published info.

I know I'm not alone when I say I think that these companies are totally unethical in the way they operate. This is a harm reduction forum, where user safety is the focus. So, if in revealing this info, any commercial, legal or other consequence results, providing users are better informed it's more than worthwhile IMO. To me, companies that fail to reveal contents are nothing better than illicit drug manufacturers and I've no respect for, or loyalty to either.
 
^But if the product in question is illegal- and most will agree DMT is a stupid drug to make illegal- how much more obvious can it made then to call a product dreamtime, and explain the contents include WATTLE? Anyone who is enquiring about these things is likely to know what that implies. And anyway, if one spoke to the owner of the franchise (as I have) the plant material was revealed immediately to be a DMT (and other minute quanities) containg Acacia. I don't think these companies are unethical as such- the government doesn't allow much room for ethics in terms of drugs...

That said, I think that, as anyone can prepare these tryptamine goodies given the right plant material and a bit of patience, these drugs that can be grown and distributed are my cup of tea and out there for anyone- no need to rely on the hearsay of someone making cash of the product. Its just a pity that some interesting ethnobotanical blends are no longer available because of some foolishness....I'm certainly not saying it was Bluelight or this thread, but its a pity neverthless.
 
The place you're talking about has never been raided, they've had a few run ins with the cops. They don't know what it looks like they're just looking for weed. They used a sniffer once. I know Nimbin had more trouble a while back, but it was about weed i Believe. The dreamtime shit is so weak anyway, since the strong one has now stopped being sold. And no one knows about it unless you have had it before and talked to them. They would never offer it to you, or anything else. They know what theyre doing, but yeah I guess mentioning it so much will harm the place.

On another note, back in season is the Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seed, fresh and dandy and full of LSA's, 6-8 should do most people, 10 some say is too intense. Any higher and you're risking ergotamide poisoning which has had cases of blood vessel damage I believe or grangrene. I'm not a fan of the seeds (or morning glory) but if you know where to find it, they're out and about and fresh as fook... to plant to see pretty flowers...... of course.

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Dreamtime actually contained quite a lot of DMT- I found if you sifted the vial a bit, a lot of it would collect on the bottom, and there was always a fair 'yield'. I didn't like the way they blended it with passionflower or mullein though, I prefer it solo, or on weed. A. Obtusifolia yields very good quality, very pure DMT. The strong shit, anmed after a shamans tea which is legal was much stronger, but just as easily obtained?? Pau d' Arco is the legal tea blend that you can buy, very 'good' for visionary purposes- ie. its inactive :) A namesake is not. But- as said, nothing is as strong as your own yield- so DMT is the easiest obtainable illegal drug in Australia.

I realise the place in question hasn't been raided, just stopped selling because they got into 'trouble'. In hindsight, they were pretty foolish to be peddling one of the worlds most active tryptamines as an incense blend or whateva. Either way, I had some massive breakthroughs on that shit; just smoke more!! ;)
 
D'arco (lol at name() was def strongfer than dreamtime, about 5 times.
 
It also seems that theres a lot of fresh Sand pEDRO'S lurking around, if you can stomach it. I really need to a'b that stuff.
 
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