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"I'm afraid you didn't get 15pts" - EADD Benefits Thread

I'm really really lucky, i'm on support rate ESA (118 a week) with a back-payment which allows me to buy stuff for my new place (with 65 a week housing benefits), i'm counting my blessings atm before they try bring in this universal credit bollocks which shouldnt be for a few years, easing myself back in with volunteer work & courses, i can (and am) only doing 1 day a week volunteering because if i try ease up to more than that they stop my esa and it'd be impossible for me to get back on it and i'm in no fit mental state to work at the mo.. Any questions about benefits and i'll ask my old man cause hes a welfare adviser :)
 
Monsta, is there no particular niche you would be comfortable in?

It pains me to read your posts sometimes.
I just wanna push you out of that proverbial plane (with a parachute of course) and see how you fare.

Obv I can't judge you cause we've never met, but you seem more together than most people in this world.
 
Monsta, is there no particular niche you would be comfortable in?

It pains me to read your posts sometimes.
I just wanna push you out of that proverbial plane (with a parachute of course) and see how you fare.

Obv I can't judge you cause we've never met, but you seem more together than most people in this world.

Aye man. I know it's rich coming from me but I reckon you could do a lot more than you (Monsta) give yourself credit for. The fear of attempting it seems to get the better of you. I mean, you've stood in front of a crowd & belted out tunes & I know it's easier said than done but if you can do that then there's plenty other things that you're capable of but you just seem to have convinced yourself that you're not.

Lol, I'm a fucking hypocrite of the highest order but still...

I just wanna push you out of that proverbial plane (with a parachute of course) and see how you fare.

That's quite a good way of putting it. That's what I need really. I sit & think of all the reasons why I won't be capable of doing things when I really just need to get flung it at the deep end. It seems scary but I'd probably be fine.
 
Yep agree with all that ^

The only thing to fear is fear itself chuck. You are a brilliant, clever, friendly, lovely bloke and any establishment or organisation would be lucky to have you on board.. its time to slaughter the old negative mindset and sieze the good life.. rawrrr. :D

( apologies if thats all a bit ott ^ I really mean it all though. Some really great things have been happening for me and mine. You deserve some victories too)

It sounds hackneyed and rather twee but just think positive and talk positive darlin'. You're going to be O.K.<3
 
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That's the thing - I need to be in a stable place to do what I want to do. I want to get back into education. I want to get a job in the pharmacutical industry or even just as a pharmacy assisstant.
But before I can do that I need to go through a fuck load of CBT and, like you say, start thinking that I can do this (I actually typed "cant" then).
Anyway, yer right. I'm likely wasting a lot of time and resources by acting how I do. Even this virtual space lol.
 
Monsta there's a brilliant CBT book called defeating depression.

It's very v good at improving mental health.
Especially the part about automatic negative thoughts.

In the words of Charlie Sheen's expensive Hollywood therapist: "Can't is the cancer of happen".
 
I reckon if you can stand in front of a crowd of people and perform (your DJing) you can pretty much face any situation. That to me seems like a VERY nerve racking thing to do, much more than having to go to work or back into education.
 
That's quite a good way of putting it. That's what I need really. I sit & think of all the reasons why I won't be capable of doing things when I really just need to get flung it at the deep end. It seems scary but I'd probably be fine.

Yeah that's exactly it. I've had loads of anxiety issues in the past that still exist to this day, and the only real way I've made any progress is to flung myself into uncomfortable situations or be in a position where I'm forced to do the things I worry about. The amount of things I've spent weeks worrying about that always turn out fine in the end. Obviously its got to be a slow progression, but small steps are the way to go. Slowly chip away at the anxiety response and eventually it lessens a bit. Not sure its possible to remove it entirely, but put it a bit further in the back of the mind at least.
 
Same Inso. Have suffered with anxiety for about 10 years now (since I went to Amsterdam and got greedy with the space cakes and had a mad freak out / panic attack), there were times when I couldn't barely leave the house without having a panic attack but my doctor wasn't willing to help and I didn't really want to resort to being reliant on benzos or anything else so I just forced myself out. Over the years it comes and goes and most of the time now I can see it for what it is and deal with it but still sometimes catches me out and I get close to a panic attack (not had one for many years but often get close on bad hangovers). Bizarrely the worst situation for me is getting a hair cut as years ago I had a panic attack out of nowhere after not having had one for years whilst sat in the barbers chair (sometimes about the cloak being tightly round my neck and the razor buzzing away in my ear I think) and ever since I get nervous going for one, I spend the whole time with my palms sweating and heart racing until it's over. It's stupid but I can't help it, just need to try and deal with it. Also suffer from social anxiety and have for as long as I can remember, to deal with that I forced myself to go to Australia about 5 years ago, alone, and do the whole backpacking thing so I had no choice but to be sociable (in hostels etc). It worked to a certain extent and I'm certainly better than I was but I still suffer from it and often think up all sorts of excuses not to go to social events (especially if there will be people there I don't know) until I realise I'm just being fucking daft and need to get on with it, usually my stupid fears turn out to have been unfounded. Like a few others have mentioned I often convince myself I can't do something or it's not for me without even trying.

I don't think I will ever fully get over my anxiety but you defo just need to push yourself and see what happens. More often that not turns out fine.
 
Right, I'm at my wits end.

I just phoned up about my 'benefits' after over 2 months living off handouts and crisis loans - here's how the conversation went:

ME: Hi, I'm trying to claim ESA because the doctor signed me off. I'm not fit enough to claim JSA but I'm too well to claim ESA.

So where do I stand?

BENEFIT AGENCY: Let me check your details. Ah yes, we see that you made a claim within 6 months of making this new claim. Therefore we cannot make any payments until you've had a medical assessment.

ME: My previous claim has nothing to do with this.

BENEFITS AGENCY: Blah, blah, blah. those are the rules.

ME: Ok. So what am I supposed to do? I can't claim JSA because you have to be fit for work & my GP has deemed me unfit for work.

BENEFITS AGENCY: You need to claim JSA under special rules.

ME: I already tried this. I asked them in the jobcentre and they said they didn't know what I was talking about.

BENEFITS AGENCY: Well I'm sorry but there's nothing we can do.

ME: So... what am I supposed to do? I'm pennyless. I can't even afford to pick up my medication from the local town and I can't work or claim JSA either.
Are you basically telling me that I'm f*cked?

BENEFITS AGENCY: Yes. Goodbye.

Unreal.
Seriously feel like topping myself.

I simply cannot exist anymore
 
Why not go back to your doctor, tell him you're feeling fine and dandy now, get him to sign you back on, go job centre, claim JSA and then just don't look for a job. Do that for as long as possible until they start trying to force you into a job / slave labour and then at that point go back to your doctor and say you're fucked again and need signed off. By that point the 6 months will have passed and you can claim ESA.
 
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I'm actually in the midst of doing that.

The problem is I need to get through the next 1 week and 1 day until I sign on.
I'm so broke now, god knows how I'll make it until next Friday.

They said I need to contact the jobcentre 3 times a week aswell? WTF is that all about.
I've never been on JSA before.
 
You only go once every fortnight to sign on for JSA, I'm claiming at the moment and that's the deal. Don't think it would be different depending on which part of the country you are in but who knows. I need to show that I'm contacting 14 employers a week where as others on here said they only had to do 3 or something. :\
 
still waiting to see if i'm eligable for esa. my short term memory is shot to fuck,too much happening mentally but it's been weeks that i have had zero money coming in,how long does it take them to sort esa out? being treated for depression,schitzoaffective disorder or any other fucking label they choose to throw at me,can't get an answer from jobcentre and feel like throwing the phone against the fucking wall,can never get through to the dept i need,sent out all relevant info weeks ago,i think :!
 
I only have to phone 1 employer a week.

On JSA? That can't be right mate, even years ago when I signed on it was more than that. Surely it's not different depending on which part of the country / job centre you go to, wouldn't make any sense....well it is the job centre I guess. :\
 
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