HeadphonesandLSD
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We still have 7-oh and pseudo on the shelf here but I've noticed they aren't stocking it as quickly as they used to. I found some pills at a really good price but everyone else caught on and started buying those packs up. They were the strongest and cheaper than everything else if you did the math on the milligrams in each pill. I'm skeptical about the claims of it though and I've noticed those pills are badly pressed. They just crumble apart. If you buy the other brands they're rock hard and you need a knife to cut them in half.
I cut them into quarters and put them under my tongue. Then dose them over the course of 2 hours with plain left kratom.
I've been taking it but I don't take it every day and I take it with plain leaf kratom. Which seems to make it last longer. I've managed to get a couple of nods out of those pills but it isn't like oxycodone and morphine by a long shot. I don't want to get addicted to them because they're expensive (5 pills = same price as my weekly kratom habit). When I take it I generally limit myself to 1 and no more than 2 pills in a day. Then I always make sure not to take it two days in a row. I've noticed withdrawal that I always get upon waking (long time kratom user now) is much worse than when I just take plain leaf.
I'm terrified they'll ban kratom leaf OTC here if they ban the extracts and pills with 7-oh in them. I'm trying to step down my kratom intake and taper off. But it's really hard because I have legit pain issues and it really helps with that. But I hate the fucking morning w/d symptoms so much. I'm useless for the first hour everyday and have to take a dose of kratom to starve off w/d. Then when they go away I take another dose and go about my business. I'm good for 6 hours usually before I have to take more. But I regularly go into the bag again before that.
I'm sick of kratom all together. It ruined my hair and I can tell it's starting to mess with my body. I'm sure my recent kidney stone was caused by my kidneys having to filter all that nasty leaf I throw down.
When I take 7-oh my bowel movements are also hard to pass for the next two days. I don't want to go through pushing out another monster so I'm proactive about that now.
I do not suggest getting started with it. On its own the high is short lived and it isn't as good as oxycodone, morphine, oxymorphone and all the other lovely stuff that used to be cheap and everywhere. I wish I could find a doctor that would switch me over to something like hydrocodone or oxycodone without the tylenol in it. I'm terrified that I've raped my liver and kidneys with abuse of both those and now kratom for several years.
Kava didn't do much of anything for me but I bought it from a headshop. My friend liked it (we split the bottle). I have a high tolerance to all downers it seems that kava just doesn't do the trick. I couldn't use it as a sleep aid. It also tastes more horrible than kratom and I've gotten to the point where I can toss and wash kratom with plain water.
I cut them into quarters and put them under my tongue. Then dose them over the course of 2 hours with plain left kratom.
I've been taking it but I don't take it every day and I take it with plain leaf kratom. Which seems to make it last longer. I've managed to get a couple of nods out of those pills but it isn't like oxycodone and morphine by a long shot. I don't want to get addicted to them because they're expensive (5 pills = same price as my weekly kratom habit). When I take it I generally limit myself to 1 and no more than 2 pills in a day. Then I always make sure not to take it two days in a row. I've noticed withdrawal that I always get upon waking (long time kratom user now) is much worse than when I just take plain leaf.
I'm terrified they'll ban kratom leaf OTC here if they ban the extracts and pills with 7-oh in them. I'm trying to step down my kratom intake and taper off. But it's really hard because I have legit pain issues and it really helps with that. But I hate the fucking morning w/d symptoms so much. I'm useless for the first hour everyday and have to take a dose of kratom to starve off w/d. Then when they go away I take another dose and go about my business. I'm good for 6 hours usually before I have to take more. But I regularly go into the bag again before that.
I'm sick of kratom all together. It ruined my hair and I can tell it's starting to mess with my body. I'm sure my recent kidney stone was caused by my kidneys having to filter all that nasty leaf I throw down.
When I take 7-oh my bowel movements are also hard to pass for the next two days. I don't want to go through pushing out another monster so I'm proactive about that now.
I do not suggest getting started with it. On its own the high is short lived and it isn't as good as oxycodone, morphine, oxymorphone and all the other lovely stuff that used to be cheap and everywhere. I wish I could find a doctor that would switch me over to something like hydrocodone or oxycodone without the tylenol in it. I'm terrified that I've raped my liver and kidneys with abuse of both those and now kratom for several years.
Kava didn't do much of anything for me but I bought it from a headshop. My friend liked it (we split the bottle). I have a high tolerance to all downers it seems that kava just doesn't do the trick. I couldn't use it as a sleep aid. It also tastes more horrible than kratom and I've gotten to the point where I can toss and wash kratom with plain water.
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... Wish I had a good bit more of that -- I actually got it only today and I started low ( like 1/1000 of your dose 
), managed to keep ~ 4 hours in between then tried double - at the same time as 3, 5 g Kratom (first time was at the peak of the Kratom) - not the slightest difference 
. Then 10 mg (+20 mg MIT) + 5 mg Diazepam with a cracker another 4 hrs later - just a breef moment of come up, and gone 
