^ Or you would have taken dxm in a dangerous way like corciden and youd be dead. I see the internet as a mostly positive thing in this way
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How do we prevent our kids becoming addicts?
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foodcrisis
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^^^i can actually totally see that now that you mention it... i really didn't mean they should shut this site down... just food for thought. i see people on this site recommending shit like shooting up... i really don't get it. drugs are already pretty strong to me. i can't imagine how they'd be stronger with out passing out or od'ing.
if they shut this site down there'd still definitely be all sorts of rumours and people taking drugs. you're totally right. mostly if you read into drugs people make it seem like psychedelics are safe and recommended and other stuff is sketchy and addictive...i even think opiates can be recommended if you've never relaxed before, you can realize how good you can actually feel with out drugs once you learn to let your body slow down... and stimulants are just cool feeling, so i don't know how that'd really help. you learn you're nervous or something and you like it. maybe.
with dxm and dextroverse though, i never got that plateaus business. after like one bottle of dxm, i'm so fucked up that i pass out or can't move and can't remember anything. like a half a bottle was a real good time to me with a little weed... at even like one small bottle, i'd be fucked up passed out not able to remember anything. i was never sure if this was because my body was weak or just a chemical imbalance... i remember one time after sniffing only a few lines of coke my arm hurt and felt numb. so i dunno. different strokes for different folks. hard to figure out what works for a specific person when they start using... like people say to test the waters, but some of my best drug experiences were from just taking too much right away. if i recommend it for myself, why wouldn't i recommend it for other people.
if they shut this site down there'd still definitely be all sorts of rumours and people taking drugs. you're totally right. mostly if you read into drugs people make it seem like psychedelics are safe and recommended and other stuff is sketchy and addictive...i even think opiates can be recommended if you've never relaxed before, you can realize how good you can actually feel with out drugs once you learn to let your body slow down... and stimulants are just cool feeling, so i don't know how that'd really help. you learn you're nervous or something and you like it. maybe.
with dxm and dextroverse though, i never got that plateaus business. after like one bottle of dxm, i'm so fucked up that i pass out or can't move and can't remember anything. like a half a bottle was a real good time to me with a little weed... at even like one small bottle, i'd be fucked up passed out not able to remember anything. i was never sure if this was because my body was weak or just a chemical imbalance... i remember one time after sniffing only a few lines of coke my arm hurt and felt numb. so i dunno. different strokes for different folks. hard to figure out what works for a specific person when they start using... like people say to test the waters, but some of my best drug experiences were from just taking too much right away. if i recommend it for myself, why wouldn't i recommend it for other people.
I have often thought about this and it is a worry. Addiction on my dads side of the family is rampant my grandads two brothers were opium addicts in India for all their lives 6 decades plus my old man was addicted to drink my uncle drink and cocaine and any other benzo he could get his hands on a cousin died from drink.
And me going 31 years of addiction the way i handle it is to be honest tell the kids the truth that drugs are so good at first but when physical addiction kicks in it is just a wasted life all you do is try to keep wds away the buzz has long since gone and by adding other drugs you are a poly drug addict with 2 or 3 wds before clean. On my first rattle which i did cold turkey after 13 years of heroin use i told my wife on day three to call my kids into the bedropom. I told my kids look this is what addiction is tears in eyes curled up because the anxiety was killing me but they have to know the down side of drugs . I hope it works and addiction skips any future generations of my family
And me going 31 years of addiction the way i handle it is to be honest tell the kids the truth that drugs are so good at first but when physical addiction kicks in it is just a wasted life all you do is try to keep wds away the buzz has long since gone and by adding other drugs you are a poly drug addict with 2 or 3 wds before clean. On my first rattle which i did cold turkey after 13 years of heroin use i told my wife on day three to call my kids into the bedropom. I told my kids look this is what addiction is tears in eyes curled up because the anxiety was killing me but they have to know the down side of drugs . I hope it works and addiction skips any future generations of my family
RDP89
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WRONG! Old Testament still stands, Jesus said it himself according to the bullshit fairy tale bible.
Matthew 5:17-20
The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
RDP89
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From everything I’ve ever seen sonicwhite post, dude is mentally ill and I hope he gets help.
kiely
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I think he said he was struggling to overcome things it sounds like. He is trying. Wants to get better. He improved so much. Well, until all this.
crazyhairman
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You can't unfortunately. You just let me know whatever happens you love em no matter what.
Mental health is 90% why ppl start using anything. Heck it comes down to it I'd rather my kid be a drug addict I can see everyday then a school shooter. Or a serial rapist.
No-one want to see their kids suffering. But try not to push too hard.
Mental health is 90% why ppl start using anything. Heck it comes down to it I'd rather my kid be a drug addict I can see everyday then a school shooter. Or a serial rapist.
No-one want to see their kids suffering. But try not to push too hard.
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^rather a drug addict than a school shooter or rapist. Well I hope fucking so those other two aren't really the same at all. 'suffering' for me is sobriety. The world is all too clear. (not that i see things any clearer than anyone) but reality needs the edge took off or I will get violent. People don't know how to behave and often the response they deserve would leave me an assault charge or an asswhooping. Often times the assholes can fight decent, suprising I know.
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Well, if you're an addict and you don't want your kids to be, the obvious first step is for you to stop first.
I totally don't want to come across like I'm preaching the obvious even though it does sound a bit like that to me.
In a more general sense though, I think the reasons kids turn to drugs is one of several reasons. If it's psychedelics, it could just be exploration, no problem. In the case of addictive stuff, it's because their emotional needs are not being met. It's either problems at school or with parents. Sometimes I think parents overlook the fact that it's not just how you treat the kids; it's how you treat your spouse. Even if you are an exceptional parent to your kids, it doesn't matter when you and your spouse fight all the time. It could even be more subtle - like maybe you don't fight with your spouse, but it's clear you don't love or respect them. This automatically makes the child's existence invalidated.
I totally don't want to come across like I'm preaching the obvious even though it does sound a bit like that to me.
In a more general sense though, I think the reasons kids turn to drugs is one of several reasons. If it's psychedelics, it could just be exploration, no problem. In the case of addictive stuff, it's because their emotional needs are not being met. It's either problems at school or with parents. Sometimes I think parents overlook the fact that it's not just how you treat the kids; it's how you treat your spouse. Even if you are an exceptional parent to your kids, it doesn't matter when you and your spouse fight all the time. It could even be more subtle - like maybe you don't fight with your spouse, but it's clear you don't love or respect them. This automatically makes the child's existence invalidated.
Jerry Atrick
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I stand corrected. lol
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I've been looking into this recently as I've got 2 young boys and I'm worried what they're life is gonna be like. I've worked most of my life so my addiction habits were kept under control and I could only get smashed on weekends.
I was made redundant during COVID so I've got deeper and deeper into bad habits.
The past few months have been hell. My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer 6 months ago and I couldn't handle the stress of it all so my drinking went to another level.
This forced me to get some help, I've tried everything I can to stop drinking. Local addiction teams, GP, YouTube videos. All have been helpful in some way.
The conclusion I've come to is that I have ADHD. I am also probably on the Autism scale somewhere, and have a history of anxiety depression and a bit of mania.
I am wondering if ADHD treatment would help.
Anyway I guess the point of my post is to say that I probably needed help for my mental health issues when I was young and I can see that one of my boys has similar ways to me, so hopefully when I'm diagnosed as ADHD I can get him some help too.
I was made redundant during COVID so I've got deeper and deeper into bad habits.
The past few months have been hell. My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer 6 months ago and I couldn't handle the stress of it all so my drinking went to another level.
This forced me to get some help, I've tried everything I can to stop drinking. Local addiction teams, GP, YouTube videos. All have been helpful in some way.
The conclusion I've come to is that I have ADHD. I am also probably on the Autism scale somewhere, and have a history of anxiety depression and a bit of mania.
I am wondering if ADHD treatment would help.
Anyway I guess the point of my post is to say that I probably needed help for my mental health issues when I was young and I can see that one of my boys has similar ways to me, so hopefully when I'm diagnosed as ADHD I can get him some help too.
Jerry Atrick
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Why wait until after you are diagnosed? If as a parent you suspect your child needs help, as long as you have insurance/resources, I would at least start with a child psychologist for testing. ADHD doesn't have to be genetic. What if your diagnosis is negative and you find out your kid's is positive? Doesn't really change anything other than wasting precious time getting the kid checked out while waiting for your own results.
SpiralusSancti
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How to to raise a happy child growing into happy person with full and content life?
How to raise them to have a lot of trust in you?
How to do it in our age and how to do it in different circumstances in different countries?
There’s no simple answer and there’s no 100% correct answer that questions and same is true for op’s question. You can do your best and still raise someone who’ll end up od’ing or you could think you are fucking it up and raise someone who wont ever touch drugs.
How to raise them to have a lot of trust in you?
How to do it in our age and how to do it in different circumstances in different countries?
There’s no simple answer and there’s no 100% correct answer that questions and same is true for op’s question. You can do your best and still raise someone who’ll end up od’ing or you could think you are fucking it up and raise someone who wont ever touch drugs.
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I recommend getting assessed for autism and ADHD as soon as you can. I got diagnosed with higher level autism after burnout (used to be lower level generally) beforehand, and now I'm on disability. We have an autism thread hanging around somewhere with everyone talking about their different experiences and also being generally very autistic including me arguing a bit more before I was mod and toned it down but a lot of random autism stuff. Someone should make an ADHD one (my ADHD isn't bad enough for me to write much out about it cause it's mostly just 'got distracted by thing then other thing then other thing).
I asked my psychiatrist to test me for ADHD in 2017 due to my weird ass response to meth and other stimulants. She wouldn't at the time due to my meth use (fair) but later did assess me when I got put on dexamphetamine for another reason and I responded how someone with long term undiagnosed ADHD would. And I told one of my therapists who visits every week he has ADHD due to things he does (inattentive vs hyperactive) and now he's getting assessed. He was like 'damn it' when I pointed out all the things he does plus being late all the time (time blindness) as well as dexamphetamine helping him plus the whole 'all my friends are neurodiverse and I grew up being the weird one' and I'm here going 'bro you're not the neurotypical friend you're the undiagnosed one and also lol weird one huh? That's new'
When I got my school reports from my mum she told me I wouldn't find any adhd stuff in there but there was a lot of inattentiveness and when she realised that was a subtype of ADHD she realised she has it herself and now agreed, my brother got tested to and is.
You can be hyperactive, inattintive predominantly, or mixed.
With ASD stress can really really impact how your autism presents so the more stressed a person becomes, particularly someone who has masked/camoflauged their autism (especially people assigned female at birth as the presentation is different but not always, plus there is a racial and socioeconomic bias in the diagnosis - poorer peoppe and people of colour often get ODD (which don't even talk with me about that is just a trauma diagnosis) or some other conduct disorder instead of a learning disabilty.
The earlier people (and children especially) get intervention for ADHD and ASD the better the outcomes. There are non stimulant options for children as well if you are concerned about that such as guanfacine and strattera.
Ya know I have see the title of this thread and I find it a very good question but a stumper.
One can lead by example but this doesnt guarantee usage one way or the other.
As I may be going into this field dealing with basically this same subject matter as the "goal" I find the title returning to me at the oddest times.
The trillion dollar question....
One can lead by example but this doesnt guarantee usage one way or the other.
As I may be going into this field dealing with basically this same subject matter as the "goal" I find the title returning to me at the oddest times.
The trillion dollar question....
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I’ll give an unpopulated opinion. You can’t.
I still struggle to call it a disease however drugs and addiction have dominated my life since adolescence. I was and still am shameful but reached a point of acceptance and decided this is who I and only other addicts understand the obsession. I fully functional and use round a gram a day. I dont have a choice. Something inside me obsesses being high
Preventing children from becoming addicts is a complex issue that requires a multi-faceted approach. Here are some strategies that can help:
- Educate your children: Teach your children about the risks and consequences of drug and alcohol use. Discuss with them how addiction can develop over time, and the impact it can have on their health, relationships, and future opportunities.
- Model healthy behavior: As a parent, you can model healthy behavior by avoiding substance use in front of your children. If you do use substances, be sure to use them responsibly and in moderation.
- Build strong relationships: Develop a strong, positive relationship with your children. Be present and involved in their lives, and provide emotional support and guidance.
- Encourage positive activities: Encourage your children to participate in positive activities such as sports, hobbies, and volunteer work. This can help them develop a sense of purpose and fulfillment that may deter them from using drugs and alcohol.
- Monitor your child's behavior: Keep an eye on your child's behavior and take note of any changes in mood or behavior. If you suspect that your child may be using drugs or alcohol, seek professional help.
- Set clear rules and consequences: Set clear rules and consequences for substance use. Make sure your child understands the consequences of breaking the rules and consistently enforce them.
- Seek professional help: If you are concerned about your child's substance use, seek professional help from a therapist, counselor, or addiction specialist. They can provide guidance on how to prevent addiction and how to help your child if they are already struggling with addiction.
Nas47
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Talk only the truth.Never lie ur child.Ur child must be ur friend....teacher even.....if u are believer pray for protection......and even with this not sure anything.That"s a destiny
Noahhatesme
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I am not a parent, thank the gods for that, but I am someone who was raised by an addict, became an addict, and has played a huge part in raising my siblings when my parents couldnt, i feel like i at least have a little insight into these things.
The best advice i could ever offer to any parent is to keep it real with your kids dont sugar coat things. Of corse you should always keep your disscusions at an appropriet level based off the kids maturity, but never use them being young as an excuse to lie to them. As a younger kid my parents were never honest with me, and eventually i figured it out on my own and that broke alot of trust between us and gave me really bad anxiety. Kids who know they can trust thier parents are more likely to tell them when somthing isnt going okay, and kids with anxiety are more likely to start using.
You also should always make sure your kid knows that you are a safe person to talk to and make sure you actually are. Dont get mad at your kid right away if they tell you somthing. If they do somthing bad and tell you you can still disipline them, but make sure that the conversation surrounding it is calm and clear and use consiquence not punishment. If you scream at your kid or beat them after they are vanurable with you and addmit they made a mistske, then when they actually need your support they are gonna be to scared to ask. I feel alot of kids who turn to drugs are doing it cause they dont have anyone else to help them.
Since this is your niece and nephew though, just be someone they can trust. That way they aleays have someone to fall back on instead of digging themselves a deeper hole.
The best advice i could ever offer to any parent is to keep it real with your kids dont sugar coat things. Of corse you should always keep your disscusions at an appropriet level based off the kids maturity, but never use them being young as an excuse to lie to them. As a younger kid my parents were never honest with me, and eventually i figured it out on my own and that broke alot of trust between us and gave me really bad anxiety. Kids who know they can trust thier parents are more likely to tell them when somthing isnt going okay, and kids with anxiety are more likely to start using.
You also should always make sure your kid knows that you are a safe person to talk to and make sure you actually are. Dont get mad at your kid right away if they tell you somthing. If they do somthing bad and tell you you can still disipline them, but make sure that the conversation surrounding it is calm and clear and use consiquence not punishment. If you scream at your kid or beat them after they are vanurable with you and addmit they made a mistske, then when they actually need your support they are gonna be to scared to ask. I feel alot of kids who turn to drugs are doing it cause they dont have anyone else to help them.
Since this is your niece and nephew though, just be someone they can trust. That way they aleays have someone to fall back on instead of digging themselves a deeper hole.