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House music, the syphillitic infection of Melbourne's music scene.

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Re: what a crock of shit

pekkie said:
but house is the most easygoing out of them all, it's great. :)
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Exactly, I hate easy going music.
But yes, I have had sex to house and that may be one of the rare occasions when it works, but then cumming right at the end of a 303 peak is fucking mad too.
 
Re: to quote boy george...

dex said:
... he was describing the harder genres of music like acid techno "... is for white boys who haven't discovered their hips" :D
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That's funny, coz I aint white, and last time I checked I had hips.
I find your comment lame.
 
Oh yes sorry I didn't really read that part properly.

However now it just makes you sound like an ill informed idiot, which is much worse IMO.

Ok enough of the retorts. =D
 
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Oh yes sorry I didn't really read that part properly.
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And you call me the idiot?
However now it just makes you sound like an ill informed idiot, which is much worse IMO.
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It may not be a technical answer, but it's a valid operational answer, and since I don't listen to house, you shouldn't be expecting much more.
 
House is my first love, in all it's forms. It's the music I go out for, it's the music my body moves to. It doesn't mean I'm close-minded about my music choices though.

I don't really like techno, but in the last six months I've been to three Fokus parties and two Teriyakis and had a good time. I try to educate myself about other music genres I don't particular like.

There is something about the electronic music scene that shits me to tears though. It's techno purists.

Time and time again, whenever I hear someone paying out other music genres on messages boards (especially inthemix), nine times out of ten; that person is a techno fan. What is wrong with fans of techno? Why would anybody want to associate themselves with such close-minded, snobby, elitist wankers?

Perhaps if fans of techno spent as much time supporting their scene as they did paying out the more popular genres (NRG/hard trance and house), perhaps techno would get a bigger following? Perhaps if techno fans put as much effort into getting to Teriyaki on Thursdays as they did paying out hard trance on Internet message boards, it might not have been kicked out of Billboards.

Why are hard trance and house so popular? Maybe because the people who go out for such music know how to have fun? Perhaps if techno fans didn't spend all their time standing around moaning and bitching about house music, NRG music, how lame they think the Melbourne shuffle is or all the other crap I ever hear from them, maybe techno would find a bigger market?

I want to clarify that not all techno fans are such twats, but unfortunately too many are.
 
Speaking of syphillis ,Pekkie you are all over this board like a rash today
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Oh gee how observant of you. ;)

Hoptis as far as your response goes I couldn't agree with you more, infact it was what I was trying to say in my first few posts, but sometimes my responses come out all wrong. :)

Don't get me wrong I love Techno, but I happen to love other styles of music too. A few years ago I was one of those Techno purists you speak of, someone that used to verbally bash anyone that liked NRG, went to HK etc etc etc. After a bit of growing up in many ways I've discovered that yes everyone does have different tastes, and yes there is more to life than bagging other people's music tastes. House is something that has been growing on me for quite a long time, and today I feel that it is one of my favourite styles of electronic music.

I still like to have the occasional dig at NRG, but it's all lighthearted humor, and none of it is taken too seriously. ;)
 
i must step in here again. techno is the last refuge of the elite. it's edge, originality, minimalism and just sheer force of being alienates nearly everyone that come onto it for the first time. that's usually true of current tech fans also. i've met very few tech fans that have come directly to tekkers without first meandering through a myriad of other dance music styles. the only ones that come to tech as their first stop in electronica do so from industrial grunge and hardcore heavy metal.

so, the fact that us tech fans have found satisfaction and fulfillment in this genre after searching for a while, and not being satisfied with other styles, tends to arouse a certain missionary zeal, and spawns the evil elitism and superiority that you've experienced so far in this thread.

personally, i try to keep my ego in check as much as possible, but ultimately i know that i am the follower of the true path to aural nirvanah, and my quiet tolerance of other genres is merely due to the smugness of knowing i'm one of the chosen few. =D
 
Re: half empty or half full?

Peakatronic said:
onetwothreefour: Have you checked out FBS Big Beach Boutique II ? wicked album , "77 Strings" by Kurtis Mantronik presents Chamonix and "Crazy Talk (dub)" are awesome tracks =D
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*has music-inspired orgasm*

ahem. yes indeed. that is (in my uneducated opinion :)) the best set i've ever heard. it's a damn shame that he can't seem to mix for shit (though the first brighton beach set was better), but his track selection is absolutely fucking superb. seriously, i've never heard better. i have it on dvd too, and i highly recommend it - i've tapered off a bit now due to uni homework, but at one stage during the holidays i watched it once a day for about three weeks. obsessive much :)

anyway, it's *fantastic* - nothing beats a set like that being belted out over a beach full of 250,000 fucking people.

annnnndddd....love story at sunset is *the* most amazing thing i've ever been witness to - i'd probably give up a limb to have been there =D
 
It may not be a technical answer, but it's a valid operational answer, and since I don't listen to house, you shouldn't be expecting much more.
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the way your'e so adamantly dissing it, quite frankly, i expect you to know somehting about it. the fact you can't even accurately describe what it is you don't like only discredits what little you had to say in the first place...
 
Timmmmmy said:
the way your'e so adamantly dissing it, quite frankly, i expect you to know somehting about it. the fact you can't even accurately describe what it is you don't like only discredits what little you had to say in the first place...
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Your logic is pretty flawed. I don't like opera either, and I don't know shit all about that. I'm sure there is plenty of stuff you find shit that you haven't researched too.

I have heard lots of house, from many different sub-genres, and I don't like any of it. Is that too hard for you to understand?

Also, you can't 'discredit' peoples opinions. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it.
 
While you gave my question a stab, you kinda missed the point of the second part of it.

In your answer you basically said (as I read it) that your problem with house is that it's too slow, and you don't like easy going music. But the problem with that is that house music ranges from about 110 BPM right up to 160+ BPM. Do you even know who Nick Sentience is? He plays Hard House - something I really wouldn't consider easygoing. And Hard House is full of peaks and builds. I'll forgive you for not tackling the question fully though - it was a loaded question designed to expose your ignorance, which I think it's done.

The problem with what you're saying, is that you've lumped totally different styles in together and claim to hate it all. What you're doing is similar to someone saying they hate "guitar" music. I understand the fact that you have a right to hate it all, but you should understand that if you're going to tell total strangers about it on a public message board, you gotta expect these total strangers to answer your comments - and for a lot of them not to agree with you.

I'm not trying to tell you you're wrong - I personally don't care what you like or don't like because that's entirely up to you. What I am doing (and I think a lot of other people in this thread are doing to) is trying to get you to open up your mind a bit. With a closed mind you might miss something that otherwise you'd actually really enjoy.

And lastly, I highly recommend you print this thread out once it's done and people have finished discussing these issues. Put it somewhere that it won't get lost. And in a couple of years have a read over it again, while you listen to some deep funky house, and wonder why you were once so blind to different genres based solely on a name.

Believe me, we've all been there... :)
 
^^ Jesus Christ, if there is one thing that pisses me off more than house music, it's this holier-than-thou "you don't listen to house therefore you are closed-minded' attitude".
Do you listen to country & western? I'm sure that umbrella term covers a wide range of sounds, and you probably don't like it.
Difference is I wouldnt be caliling you closed-minded. I don't think someones taste in music and annoyance at his local scene can really be a valid pointer towards an aspect of one's personality. If you actually knew me I'm sure you would find me quite different than this mental image you have created due to he fact I hate house.

As far as your question, yes it was loaded, and it would have been nice to have noted that in my answer I wrote "Usually I find it.."
In other words, I am aware of styles like hard house and its relatively high bpm for something considered house, but we both know that hard house is almost an exception to the rule.
Personally, I find hard House to be basically cheesified NRG. (eg take a cher track, give it an NRG backing, and you have hard house) -and I don't like it.

And deep & funky house? I find that to be the worst of all!
 
It used to be the same for me when I first started out. Deep/Funky house was boring beause all I wanted to was Dance like there was no tomorrow. After I totally massacared my ankle whilst playing squash I found I couldn't dance to the faster stuff for a long, long time. So if I wanted to dance, I had to make the change.

I'm not sure how long you've been listening to acid techno, after all it's hard to know whether this is just a passing phase. But most peoples musical interests tend to be somewhat fickle. They get bored of the scene they are in and for some crazy reason, they mostly head towards to the slower variations of house. As Pleo said, write down your feelings now and just see how they may differ in 2-3 years. 3 Years ago, I loved happy hardcore :o .
 
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^^ Tough break.

I can't see my love of it changing though, I have been a tek-head for years, and as time goes by I only find myself loving it even more.
And to any of you who think I have a narrow range of tastes, I like a lot of techo (obviously), breaks, D&B, Jungle, retro/new wave, old school hip-hop, funk (NOT funky house- more george clinton etc..), electro, and more...
 
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