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Ugh I'm sorry hun - that's brutal. If I want back on a bupe doctor it'll cost me $1600 or waiting lists (months here in boston, everyone is on smack i swear :p ) - I was on outpatient w/bupe for year and half, I failed maybe 2-3 tests myself, although I used a lot more often .. they had scheduled tests once a month wasn't hard to get around haha. Anyway, 3rd time in that 16 month span and next thing I know they transfer me to the methadone - it literally took me the next 3 years to get my shit together and get off, nice 6-7 week w/d later, and I manage about 2 weeks of clean time - now im trying to quit the horse all fucking over again. I do know a lot of people who have struggled w/hep c at my old clinic , it's certainly no joy ride :( :( :(.

Carl man, I see so fuckin eye to eye with you it hurts my heart to hear where you are at bro. I hope for now the bupe will tide you over and those close to you can BE THERE for you now as you need to have some positive influence in dark times. Hope things can work themselves out for you my friend, take care guys

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Wow that sucks man, I can't believe it's that much money to be on sub in Boston!How long is the waiting list? Good luck on getting clean again, I know how hard it can be. Fucking heroin....I wish I never would have picked it up.

I dunno, I just have this feeling I'm gonna give in and use again. I don't know if I really care at this point concidering whats happened to me. I get to spend the holidays getting poison injected into my body, throwing up, and losing my hair. This time last year, I was just getting on bupe and quitting heroin. For some reason, it's always the end of the year that shit goes sour for me. Every fucking year it's something...I swear to god.:(

I'm not taking my sub today...so I can take some of those morphine tablets. They are the instant release kind...and are white. Can I get away with shooting these if I filter them a couple times?

I just need some fucking drugs at this point. I just don't care anymore ya know? I'm going to spend the next 6 months to year of my life going through chemo, so if I wanna use a bit of dope to get through it so be it. Fuck it.
 
Wow that sucks man, I can't believe it's that much money to be on sub in Boston!How long is the waiting list? Good luck on getting clean again, I know how hard it can be. Fucking heroin....I wish I never would have picked it up.

I dunno, I just have this feeling I'm gonna give in and use again. I don't know if I really care at this point concidering whats happened to me. I get to spend the holidays getting poison injected into my body, throwing up, and losing my hair. This time last year, I was just getting on bupe and quitting heroin. For some reason, it's always the end of the year that shit goes sour for me. Every fucking year it's something...I swear to god.:(

I'm not taking my sub today...so I can take some of those morphine tablets. They are the instant release kind...and are white. Can I get away with shooting these if I filter them a couple times?

I just need some fucking drugs at this point. I just don't care anymore ya know? I'm going to spend the next 6 months to year of my life going through chemo, so if I wanna use a bit of dope to get through it so be it. Fuck it.

even w/a referral from my doc theres a 3 month waiting list - and mind you they bumped up the number of patients from 25 to 100 per doctor here!!! Ugh, seriously I hate opiates, I wish I had never ever touched them. A lot of my friends are starting off w/the massive influx of perc30s here .. I try to warn them but honestly I know how the love of opiates works, you have to learn for yourself - i just hope they aren't all infatuated the way I was when OCs hit hard here. I had everything going , school was going well, life was good, next thing I knew 6 months had gone by - i had gotten booted from college, lost my gf , defaulted on my car payments.. ugh. You guys know the story I'm sure, we've all lost so much to opies. I'm not sure about the morphine - none of that around here really, just a shit ton of H and oc's... occasionally theres some hydromorph which is quite nice :! .

Just keep your use in check dosage wise, I know personally when I'm having a tough time in life I always keep pushing for that high .. reality of it is , I'll never have it again the way I want, just way to much use :(. Best of luck, feel free to PM me if you get down , I'm around a good bit since I joined.
 
I'm really scared man :( Even if I do find another sub doc, I'm afraid I won't be able to get in soon enough before my subs run out. Another thing I'm worrying about is that I won't be able to find one that was as affordable as my last one. Unfortunately, my last sub doc was a total fucking tool and we never seen eye to eye on anything. He would always single me out in front of the rest of the patients,and this isn't something that was "in my head" either...the rest of the patients agreed with me and even started to lose respect for him because of it. For the first 5 or 6 months or so in the program I did very well, despite my emotional struggles that naturally come with getting sober so he would piss test me every fucking week but the rest of the patients maybe every few weeks and thats because, being HOLLY...the person that has ALWAYS been singled out my whole life(no joke, in highschool if I did the same exact thing that somebody else did they would get away with it and I would get in trouble and be suspended in a heart beat...the past couple years all the people I hung out with did drugs but guess who was the person singled out as a "junky piece of shit!omg!she is SOOO not kool to hang out with anymore!"?...you guessed it...ME. For some reason, people just have this beef with me. I just don't get it. I've always been a nice person...hell, I've only been in maybe one or two physical fights in my life but for some reason when I do something it's this HUGEEEEEEEEEEE deal...I'm a piece of shit...blah blah blah.

So anyways, I pissed dirty ONCE the entire time I was being treated there and my doctor INSISTED that I go to an IMPATIENT rehab center even though I was still clean after the fact. It literally was a one day relapse...and my dumb ass did it a little too close to the time I was supposed to go to the doctors so they popped me. He told me if I didn't get treatment, he wouldn't treat me anymore. Obsurd if you ask me. I'm paying you to treat me for the disease of addiction and then your going to THROW ME OUT of the program because of my disease! I never understood why people get thrown out of treatment programs for relapsing. That's like throwing somebody out of chemo therapy because their cancer isn't going away!FUCKING LUDACRIS!:X

So I don't want to have to go back to Dr. Tool to say the least but I might not have much of a choice if I can't find a doctor with a reasonable price. My parents would be once again paying for my treatment, so that is another reason this whole thing isn't competely in my hands. *sigh*

All this on top of this stupid fucking hepatitis c and the horrendous chemo treatment i'm going to have to go through. I turn more yellow and sick by the day....oh, and I get to lose my hair now too. I'm going to be a yellow and bald freak...

I'm just starting to get a little scared I guess....all this is really finally hitting me after I've had a few days to process it all. I guess I should be thankful my HIV status is negative but, having Hep C isn't anything to be happy about. :(

I spent Halloween at home with the constant nausea and fatigue I have since becomming sick with this disease. It was depressing...so therefore, I'm kinda depressed tonight. :(

Man....I haven't wanted to use so bad in my life. EVER.

I don't know where your getting some of this info from. For one, hep c treatment (interferon/pegasus/riboviron) is not chemotherapy. I guess you could consider the side effects as a very very mild form of chemo, but chemically it is totally different from the chemotherapy cancer patients get. Also I don't know who told you this, but you don't lose your hair while going through interferon treatment. I have heard of people whose hair thinned a little but never fallen out.
 
Miss Hollywood do not shoot morphine tablets! None of them are safe for injection because they all have loads of fillers in them. During one of my weaker moments i was going to shoot up a MS IR 30mg tablet. As soon as it touched water it started to gell up like nothing else. If i had injected that shit i most likely be missing my left arm now.

I don't know if the ones you have gel up or not but they all have loads of gunk and other shit in them. It's not worth it. If you absolutly must take them just eat them. Id recomend not taking them at all in your case because it would be all to easy to go back to heroin since morphine is much the same thing. But im not going to stop you from getting high so if your going to take them eat the pills.
 
theartofwar- Wow man, that is insane! So are you currently trying to get back on subs or was this your experience with it in the past? Yeah, if I do decide to get high I'm not gonna go overboard...well at least try not to. I'm just in so much physical and emotional sickness that I need something just to ease the pain ya know?

Hendrix- Yeah I know it's not exactly like chemo but the side effects are very similar from what the doctors have told me and from what i've been reading about it online. I'm scared my hair is going to fall out because my hair already falls out a lot as it is(i dont know why) so I can only imagine how much is going to fall out when I start this treatment. I'm already pretty physically sick from just the virus itself. It's amazing how quickly it's affected my body...i mean i am SOOOO yellow...weak,tierd, and sick to my stomach constantly. It sucks.

PA- Ok, I won't shoot them. Promise! :) Is snorting them pretty effective? Or is just taking them orally the best route?
 
theartofwar- Wow man, that is insane! So are you currently trying to get back on subs or was this your experience with it in the past? Yeah, if I do decide to get high I'm not gonna go overboard...well at least try not to. I'm just in so much physical and emotional sickness that I need something just to ease the pain ya know?

Hendrix- Yeah I know it's not exactly like chemo but the side effects are very similar from what the doctors have told me and from what i've been reading about it online. I'm scared my hair is going to fall out because my hair already falls out a lot as it is(i dont know why) so I can only imagine how much is going to fall out when I start this treatment. I'm already pretty physically sick from just the virus itself. It's amazing how quickly it's affected my body...i mean i am SOOOO yellow...weak,tierd, and sick to my stomach constantly. It sucks.

PA- Ok, I won't shoot them. Promise! :) Is snorting them pretty effective? Or is just taking them orally the best route?

Yeah thats what the doctors told me as well about the side effects, but the younger you are the better you will be able to handle them. Hell I know people who were working and going to school full time while undergoing the treatment. From what I hear, you will be sick for the first few days after taking the shot, but after that it is manageable.
 
theartofwar- Wow man, that is insane! So are you currently trying to get back on subs or was this your experience with it in the past? Yeah, if I do decide to get high I'm not gonna go overboard...well at least try not to. I'm just in so much physical and emotional sickness that I need something just to ease the pain ya know?

I dunno what the hell im trying to do currently lol - stumble from day to day seems appropriate right now , pretty dope sick , haven't used in a few days. I want to leave it all behind, im not sure if thats a reality since I ALWAYS find a way back to a relapse, its instilled in me i fuckin swear. And yes, I absolutely feel you, sometimes the physical pain of life is that final push in the threshold you've managed to hold mentally, i know it was in my case this last time down the plunger. Best of luck - hope the morphine worked out well , glad PA got here intime before you managed to boot it ;) - shit sounds brutal, all gelly. Yuck.
 
the doctors that price gouge like that when a person is in need are the biggst scum of the earth. they do not care about their patients jus the money
 
with time brother and zanax..lol i kicked methadone after a year and i was on a steady dose of 95mgs. and it took me almost 2 months to actually feel human again..methadone is the evilest shit on the planet. I never had more than a week or 2 of severe w/d's off heroin and morphine or dilaudid..hang in there bro you can do it.
 
Hello...My name is Lauren and this is my first post here ... I am a very private person and dont normally post or put my business out there for everyone to read. But it has gotten to the point that I really need to get some things out of me , all the feelings and emotions that have been bottled up and sealed up for the past I dont know how many years. May be connect with other people who are going through similar experiences and struggles.
I've been a heroin addict for a little over 10 years and considering I am only 29 years old that's a lifetime. I am currently homeless, roaming around the streets of New York's Lower East Side with no purpose it seems other than getting enough for the next bundle .It looks like the only thing that makes me feel alive and somewhat happy and content is my old , familiar friend , that goes by many names but without a doubt and hesitation wreaks havoc and destructs everything and everyone on it's path that is either too stupid or careless to answer it's seductive whisper.
I also have an awesome and wonderful boyfriend PhillyDedHed, who in the past few months became a partner, lover, a friends and a source of great strength to me. And for that I thank him. It is hard to be on the street and strung out , but it is even harder to be in the same predicament with a partner that you are romantically involved with. We have been hustling doing this and that and somehow managed to stay in the hotel that is not a complete crack/whore/wino production. That I must say was a real treat. I am not sure what tonight will bring , but the drop-in center is closing right now and the only thing that I want to do is run out of here and put every single unit of energy that I have in my body towards getting more bags.
I'll probably write something else tomorrow , until then , for everyone who is in the similar predicament..STAY SAFE AND WARM..
~Lauren
hang in there chica there is light at the end of the plunger.I was a heroin morphine dilaudid all around opiate addict. I am also 29 and have been where you r. While you r on the street you need to check into a clinic or hospital.I am told they r on almost every corner of new york and some r free. not sure. but i really really feel your pain cuz i was there and that pain is what pushing me along everyday I am sober cuz I know no matter how bad my day or week is it will never be as bad as the descolation of opiate dependency. hang in there and congrats on your new found love(boyfriend) every reason for you to pull thru~!!! god bless :P
 
Ugh... shit. My order of poppies has somehow been delayed and I am 100% out... all I got are some stems. I avoid full out withdrawal from PPT like the plague, nothing like laying awake all night long and going to work the next day feeling unable to do anything but sweat and feel sick.

The stems will help me through today and tomorrow but after that I am started to really worry, I don't even have a god damn tracking #. My package always arrives 3 days later and today was day 5. It's always the worst when you are completely unprepared. Looks like I'll be buying bulk loperamide tomorrow if they don't arrive.

P.S. - Kicking in the fall/winter season always seems the worst to me. I hate the cold with a passion, even if I'm not sick and shivery.
 
I have a small question related to oxycodone, I was unable to get into my doctor until monday and I have never had OXY IR 5mg tablets before and wondered if they contain beads? They are the labeled O-IR PF capsules, They have small beads that do not fill up very much of the cap, maybe 1/3 or 1/4 the way? Just wondered if this is right, I trust my source but I have anxiety problems with anything in capsule form.
 
Thanks man. You know how it is. I mean hell, depending on what happens tomorrow at court my plans for friday might be ruined depending on "when i have to report to my first probation meeting"and piss in a cup like i'm a 12 year old.

i see drugs like this...if I want to fuck up my body and my life thats my choice. hell i didnt rob anybody or hurt anybody to get my fix. i sold my own fuckin body....i hurt MYSELF. and i have a right to do that if i want to.i got busted prostituting(it was a sting...and they went WAY TOO FAR in their effort to get me. They should have came into the room as soon as the decoy handed me money but instead they busted the door down when WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING SHIT. WRONG WRONG WRONG. Ok, I did what I did and I got in trouble for it. BUT, they let the situation go WAY TO FAR. They took advantage of the situation and literally FUCKED me. In more ways than one.)Thats what I'm going to court for tomorrow.I had rigs and spoons on me too. So I was charged with prostitution and posession of a hypodermic needle. I hadn't scored my dope yet and THANK GOD because then I would have had a dope charge and I would have been in a lot more trouble. But it also sucked because I was already really dope sick when i got to the hotel, had to mess around with that NASTY SMELLY COP(they could have used a better decoy)and then go to jail and through all that shit while getting more dope sick.

i know i sound irrational and insane today. i'm just having one of those days.:(

i totally agree. and hope court went smoothly as possible. hang in there. been sober a few months and i still crave H at least a few times a day but it is gettin better.... best wishes...
 
My heroin use is getting out of control again...

I am using basically everyday with moderate withdrawl symptoms if I don't, but I can feel myself being totally mentally addicted to it again which means severe withdrawl symptoms are not that far down the road. I don't know why I started with this shit again, I would think it destroyed my life enough the first time not to want to fuck with it again... I guess I really just stupidly thought I could do it just once and be OK, especially since the first person I got it from was not a reliable connect... but now I've found it through someone at my work and it's the easiest thing in the world to get it.

I know this is not out of my control yet and I could just put a stop to it now, it wouldn't be the easiest thing in the world but it would't be the hardest thing I have done either, but I just either don't want to or just don't want to have to go through the WDs and then the motherfucking LONG period of craving heroin all the fucking time... I really am such a weak fucking person. I always pride myself on being strong but when it comes down to it, I don't have the strength to deal with my meth addiction or my heroin addiciton either.
 
"it's the easiest thing in the world to get it."

i know what your talking about. while i was using daily
i had to take the bus everytime i wanted to score.
now that im on methadone and moved to another city
it became so easy which makes it kinda hard to resist.
i just have to walk like 10 minutes to where all the dealers
hang out.
 
My heroin use is getting out of control again...

I am using basically everyday with moderate withdrawl symptoms if I don't, but I can feel myself being totally mentally addicted to it again which means severe withdrawl symptoms are not that far down the road. I don't know why I started with this shit again, I would think it destroyed my life enough the first time not to want to fuck with it again... I guess I really just stupidly thought I could do it just once and be OK, especially since the first person I got it from was not a reliable connect... but now I've found it through someone at my work and it's the easiest thing in the world to get it.

I know this is not out of my control yet and I could just put a stop to it now, it wouldn't be the easiest thing in the world but it would't be the hardest thing I have done either, but I just either don't want to or just don't want to have to go through the WDs and then the motherfucking LONG period of craving heroin all the fucking time... I really am such a weak fucking person. I always pride myself on being strong but when it comes down to it, I don't have the strength to deal with my meth addiction or my heroin addiciton either.

I hear you so loud and clear and it's driving me NUTS. I can't figure out why I have fucking NO control over myself. I used to - the first time I quit I made a real good run of it - since then, everytime I slip it's easier and easier to fucking go back again and gain - the shit makes you feel so worthless. I hope you hang in there bud - you are not alone, feel free to PM me if u wanna vent or are having a tough day.
 
update:long as usual (worth it if u remember my old posts!)

Hello...My name is Lauren and this is my first post here ... I am a very private person and dont normally post or put my business out there for everyone to read. But it has gotten to the point that I really need to get some things out of me , all the feelings and emotions that have been bottled up and sealed up for the past I dont know how many years. May be connect with other people who are going through similar experiences and struggles.
I've been a heroin addict for a little over 10 years and considering I am only 29 years old that's a lifetime. I am currently homeless, roaming around the streets of New York's Lower East Side with no purpose it seems other than getting enough for the next bundle .It looks like the only thing that makes me feel alive and somewhat happy and content is my old , familiar friend , that goes by many names but without a doubt and hesitation wreaks havoc and destructs everything and everyone on it's path that is either too stupid or careless to answer it's seductive whisper.
I also have an awesome and wonderful boyfriend PhillyDedHed, who in the past few months became a partner, lover, a friends and a source of great strength to me. And for that I thank him. It is hard to be on the street and strung out , but it is even harder to be in the same predicament with a partner that you are romantically involved with. We have been hustling doing this and that and somehow managed to stay in the hotel that is not a complete crack/whore/wino production. That I must say was a real treat. I am not sure what tonight will bring , but the drop-in center is closing right now and the only thing that I want to do is run out of here and put every single unit of energy that I have in my body towards getting more bags.
I'll probably write something else tomorrow , until then , for everyone who is in the similar predicament..STAY SAFE AND WARM..
~Lauren

welcome - its gd to hear from u - and also to know that 'phillydedhed' is still live and well even if he IS still using (and u r)
u dont hav to live like this
i was a heroin addict - now im on methadone.....its sure taken some playing around to get the dose right and im still struggling with other drugs but its a step ahead not hanging out evry time i wake up ffs....let alone some of the shit i had to do for smack (u may know wat im talking about - smacks at least $3000 a gram here - for china white anyway.....and thats wat i did so u can piece it together and think of me wat u like, but thanks to methadone my lifes actually changed round eh)
some ppl call methadone 'liquid handcuffs' - god knows i get annoyed bout having to dose daily and centre my life round a pharmacy too.....but its a gd in-between method of getting u off heroin and normalising ur life (and its cheaper than heroin)

holly - again, regarding hep C.....i wudnt know how bad interferon is cos i opted not to hav the treatment; its got some pretty low success rate (50%?) considering the side effects
yea i wake up with nausea/fatigue/etc - ive got used to it i guess
check out the post i put in ur thread about finding out u hav hep C - why not try ibogaine? got nothing to lose there....and there sure rnt any bad side effects (again....this works with heroin/any other kind of drug addiction - i think it has a 75% success rate)
if ur intrested PM me and ill send u some sites with gd info
gd luck - my advice is listen to those who hav bn there, and hard as it is, try not to feel that 'poor little me' feeling....i felt that for a long time (i had hep C on top of a million other things to deal with this yr - it hasnt exactly bn the best yr of my life, and yes i did feel incredibly sorry for myself.....but that didnt help me; it wud b understandable u feeling like all the shits bn doled out to u but there comes a time to move on and just look life in the face and say 'ok this is wat uve tossed me....ill deal with it this [way u choose to deal with it] way') - btw. not saying ur being 'poor little me', just saying dont get the way i ended up!
just my opinion :) (and like i said in ur thread u can PM me anytime if u want to talk to someone else in the same position - only this week im going down to our familys lodge so....if u send one this week....u may not get a reply til next week!)
hep C does suck - i had to give my beautiful horse (my best friend really) up for lease cos i was too sick to ride, partly due to hep C.....i felt like i had nothing for a long time (luckily i met someone special....just wen i was on the verge of topping myself, so u never know wats round the corner!)

last time i posted in this thread i was in a mess cos i was on a fairly high dose of methadone (probly round about 150mg back then - im now on 190mg) but still not comfortable....of course im coming off valium so im aware that i will most likely b readjusting my methadone dose each time i put down my valium dose but i was always never fail, dope sick in the morning/during the night:
-dilated pupils
-yawning
-runny eyes/nose/sneezing/swallowing phlegm
-crying a lot/moody/irritable
-hot/cold flashes and sweating through the covers/sheets
-achey bones
-restless legs
-diarhoea

i finally got a serum test done by the methadone doctor (the one i used to go to was such a prick - he just kept telling me i wasnt on a high enough dose......come on, im 5'2, i weigh 50kg, i went thru detox.....why shud i need so much methadone?)
turns out ive got the fastest metabolism theyve ever seen - by the time i had my second test done (4hrs after dosing) i was already significantly low in methadone levels (for someone on - at the time - 167.5mg), so the doctors (instead of splitting my dose) just added 20mg at nighttime (so i was on - all up - 187.5mg) but said he supported me in going as high as 200mg cos my levels r just so low (due to the speed i metabolise it)....
i dont particularly want to b on 200mg so i am taking it as slowly as poss (creeping up 2.5mg evry time i absolutely have to) and im pretty comfy on 190mg.....wish i had a horse to ride!!!!!!
dunno why they didnt figure i wud hav a fast metabolism - most ppl with ADHD do and im pretty skinny, even wen im not using crank.....(which is most of the time these days.....)
so thats my gd news
the hep C still makes me feel like shit, as do the diaz wds (day 3 down to 24mg) but hey its better than life was waiting for my next smack fix
 
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FUCK I JUST WENT THRU 3 days of DETOX HELL and JUST used again :( :(!!! WHY WHY did i do it

I bet 1 more day i was in the clear....

I gotta be honest with myself this is getting out of control...

as long as i have 1,000 oxy pills there is no way im gonna quit!!! fuck

sorry end rant

i feel good cause im high but i know in my heart it was wrong choice
 
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