ponch
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You obviously frequent different bars to myself 
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Girl sucks 24 cocks for a free drink in Magaluf
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You obviously frequent different bars to myself
Ponch was that not you earlier ? (dam I feel robbed/ribbed )
ponch
Bluelighter
Perhaps a dark room was not the best choice of meeting point 
Perhaps a dark room was not the best choice of meeting point
Looking back your probably correct :D
(I was leaving a bar one night at the same time as my friend, gave him a hug and went to give him a kiss - he said 'Don't kiss me I've been sucking cock in the toilets' :D)
ComfortablyNumb95
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well random mouth is pretty vast.. it could be anything from a hot 20 years old to a fetus (lol) or a 80 years old man.. hell even a dog
so definetely no
ponch
Bluelighter
Where is your sense of adventure, man?
THECATINTHEHAT
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It's your journey. How old are you?
If you want to engage with the world you will and likely leave an impression, make a difference - if not, so be it. The world's loss
Up to you babes. But, yeh its noticeable, you shine and have a lot to offer
I'm 26, so basically I can kind of pass off all my previous indiscretions as youthful exuberance. Not really able to carry on doing that anymore though. I do feel like I've lost a decade of personal development in a lot of ways, although I've also achieved some pretty cool stuff along the way.
Like you say, it's my journey and I don't think I would change it despite the fact it's been extremely difficult at points. I feel like I'm still on the ledge of having learned enough in terms of my personal development as a human to cancel out all the awful waste of ability and opportunity I've had, but really if I carry on abusing drugs it's all pointing towards the pits if I carry on. There is no doubt about that, and I don't want that. I've rediscovered a certain amount of the fire I had to achieve as a child, which was pretty thoroughly snuffed out by the lack of developmental programs for 'gifted' children in state schools.
Thanks for the kind words, I wouldn't go as far as to say I shine though. I shined when I was 13, it's all been put to waste though really. Anyway, it's what I do today towards my future that matters, I know that and without wwanting to look too far in to the future I know where I want to be going.
Fuck me that made me laugh haha!
mydrugbuddy
Bluelighter
At least they have 'happy endings' on there. This girl was a bloody amateur. Where was the face splattering
(Rarely has the symbol been more appropriate.)
mydrugbuddy
Bluelighter
Ha, dont quite know how to respond to that. 8( Time to stop posting on EADD and go off to get some some proteen i think.
Thou
Bluelighter
"In a row?"
BecomingJulie
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Excuse me. What part of this is not gang rape?
We have a young and vulnerable woman, already intoxicated; persuaded under false pretences (the promise of a free "Holiday" which turned out to be the name of a drink) to degrade and humiliate herself sexually, for the entertainment of a group of sleazy men. There is a massive imbalance of power here. This is why the rules are different regarding sex in situations where there is a pre-existing imbalance of power; between, e.g., teacher and student, medical practitioner and patient, or (in theory if not in practice) arresting officer and criminal.
Now, I'm absolutely not opposed to the idea of sex work. I know sex workers. I have done sex work -- well, I tried it, once, and didn't particularly like it. In fact, I bolted and even left the money. But I don't think there is anything necessarily humiliating or degrading about sex work, as a means to an end. I can think of some very non-sexual jobs that I'd personally regard as degrading or humiliating. (And when it's your knob in my gob, remind me, which way is the imbalance of power going again?
) But this was nothing remotely like an honest work situation: it was straightforward deception. The equivalent of "Wash 24 cars and win a Vauxhall Astra" which turns out to be a radio controlled model. A deliberate attempt to trick someone into doing something that they would not ordinarily have done, but for the offer of a reward. And a misrepresented offer at that.
The victim's putative consent was predicated on faulty information. Had she been fully aware of the nature of the reward, and in a better state of mind to make a judgement, I do not believe for a second that she would have agreed to do it. And knowingly withholding a material fact which would have given your partner cause to withdraw their consent is as much rape in my book as never obtaining consent in the first place.
(It gets very murky where, e.g. one party is a strict vegan and would not sleep with a meat eater, and the other party successfully disguises their omnivory for long enough to secure sexual favours. Which is the material fact here -- "I don't want to have sex with anyone who is not a vegan" or "I am not a vegan" ? This is why we have courts. For the record, I suspect that the courts today would rule narrowly against the vegan; but the direction in which social attitudes are shifting is such that I would expect the opposite verdict in 50 or 100 years' time. It's also why you don't blindly jump into the sack with anyone without getting to know a bit about them first.)
The obvious genderflip is, what would happen if it was a teenage boy who had been persuaded to suck 24 cocks for a free drink? I would not bet on that bar still standing, never mind trading (in fact, I'd take a punt on a few pitchforks and flaming torches if it was a teenage boy persuaded to wash 24 cars to win a toy one). And if it outrages you any less that in this case the victim happens to have been a young woman, then you are being more than a little bit sexist.
We have a young and vulnerable woman, already intoxicated; persuaded under false pretences (the promise of a free "Holiday" which turned out to be the name of a drink) to degrade and humiliate herself sexually, for the entertainment of a group of sleazy men. There is a massive imbalance of power here. This is why the rules are different regarding sex in situations where there is a pre-existing imbalance of power; between, e.g., teacher and student, medical practitioner and patient, or (in theory if not in practice) arresting officer and criminal.
Now, I'm absolutely not opposed to the idea of sex work. I know sex workers. I have done sex work -- well, I tried it, once, and didn't particularly like it. In fact, I bolted and even left the money. But I don't think there is anything necessarily humiliating or degrading about sex work, as a means to an end. I can think of some very non-sexual jobs that I'd personally regard as degrading or humiliating. (And when it's your knob in my gob, remind me, which way is the imbalance of power going again?
) But this was nothing remotely like an honest work situation: it was straightforward deception. The equivalent of "Wash 24 cars and win a Vauxhall Astra" which turns out to be a radio controlled model. A deliberate attempt to trick someone into doing something that they would not ordinarily have done, but for the offer of a reward. And a misrepresented offer at that.The victim's putative consent was predicated on faulty information. Had she been fully aware of the nature of the reward, and in a better state of mind to make a judgement, I do not believe for a second that she would have agreed to do it. And knowingly withholding a material fact which would have given your partner cause to withdraw their consent is as much rape in my book as never obtaining consent in the first place.
(It gets very murky where, e.g. one party is a strict vegan and would not sleep with a meat eater, and the other party successfully disguises their omnivory for long enough to secure sexual favours. Which is the material fact here -- "I don't want to have sex with anyone who is not a vegan" or "I am not a vegan" ? This is why we have courts. For the record, I suspect that the courts today would rule narrowly against the vegan; but the direction in which social attitudes are shifting is such that I would expect the opposite verdict in 50 or 100 years' time. It's also why you don't blindly jump into the sack with anyone without getting to know a bit about them first.)
The obvious genderflip is, what would happen if it was a teenage boy who had been persuaded to suck 24 cocks for a free drink? I would not bet on that bar still standing, never mind trading (in fact, I'd take a punt on a few pitchforks and flaming torches if it was a teenage boy persuaded to wash 24 cars to win a toy one). And if it outrages you any less that in this case the victim happens to have been a young woman, then you are being more than a little bit sexist.
parttime crackhead
Bluelighter
The thing about if it was a teenage boy, you are right that the bar wouldn't still be standing but that's because people are fucking morons. It's not because that's what should happen. I would feel no different if it was a boy, in fact I would probably be far less sympathetic (wrongly so, but I can't help it. Poor little girl, stupid wee boy type thing).
And gang rape is taking it a bit far, is it not? Imagine someone who had actually been gang raped watching that video and then hearing the girl say "I didn't mean to do it, I was gang-raped" (which I'm fairly sure she hasn't even remotely hinted at). Running about a night club frantically hunting for the next boaby is not gang rape. She appeared far more willing than at least one or two of the guys did.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending it. It was some shady shit to con her into it, no doubt about that.
Have you considered that she might (probably not, but might) have enjoyed herself (particularly if it wasn't for the video and the world finding out)?
And gang rape is taking it a bit far, is it not? Imagine someone who had actually been gang raped watching that video and then hearing the girl say "I didn't mean to do it, I was gang-raped" (which I'm fairly sure she hasn't even remotely hinted at). Running about a night club frantically hunting for the next boaby is not gang rape. She appeared far more willing than at least one or two of the guys did.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending it. It was some shady shit to con her into it, no doubt about that.
Have you considered that she might (probably not, but might) have enjoyed herself (particularly if it wasn't for the video and the world finding out)?
BecomingJulie
Bluelight Crew
It's not so much the responses themselves I mean, but the difference between them. And it is not a difference of degree, it is a difference of kind. Burning down the bar is at least an attempt to punish the perpetrators, not punish the victim.
It doesn't matter whether or not she enjoyed it. What matters is that she was deceived with a false promise, her temporarily-impaired mental state was taken advantage of, and somebody thought it was O.K. to use this sort of thing for entertainment.
parttime crackhead
Bluelighter
That's a good point.
ColtDan
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SummerSerenade
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I'm sorry but no matter how drunk/whatever I was I would still never do this. I'm sure the same goes for most people. You don't 'accidently' suck 24 guys off, if she was still conscious enough to do that then there was some element of choice there no matter how much she was conned or whatever so yeah, you couldn't ever call it rape.
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Dark Side
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It's not Gang rape it's Darwinism, magaluf is a bunch of morons confined together on a island with lots of booze. I find it funny when males get the blame when the women are just as bad, she decided to get pissed out of her brains, she was dumb enough to believe a competition existed where she had to suck aload of dick for a 'Holiday' fkn hell. I bet she didn't even believe it and just wanted aload of cock in her mouth.