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GHB/1,4-B/GBL Discussion and use

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I do not intend to use it for having sex, i just like the 'horny felling' itself lol
but i know what you're talking about..

well im not thinking about using it constantly, but i'd like to know that if i'll use it with some kind of frequency, then i'll be less productive in college, work, etc.. also if i'll have any health issues.

what im looking for is basically an libido increasement. i usually get it with ritalin (not much, but i do). lets say that i have a great time tonight (with any sexual mood /activity) then tomorrow i'll wake up still horny, and stay in the mood for the rest of the day.

thats what i want! when you get an impulse, you continue this way. like lighting a fire. then u just have to keep the flame on.
 
you will lose4 all motivation and not give a shit about anything but G.
you will also suffer withgdrawals...

the only different between this and heroin is you dont have to stick it in your veins really.
 
wow... i was so excited about this one.. thought that G was "the one" lol..
what would you suggest to increase the libido as much as GHB?

man, is it so addictive as you say?? i mean, i've been on many drugs before, highly addictives, and i know what its like.. but i never had any problem with addiction. i mean, i never did it more frequently than once a week, and never continued this often for more than 3 weeks or so.

i dont like to be under any drug actually. as i said, i use them as an impulse, an stimulation that leave me follow that road by myself.

i was actually thinking to take some testosterone (which some 40s do w/ medical assistance as a sexual aid), but i found GHB to be much more effective and with less side effects (considering my personal objective). i never did any of them, so i cant tell for sure. but G seems promicing. a lot.
 
If you make a promise to yourself not to take it every day you wont get addicted, most likely.. but as soon as you wake up and start wanting, then needing G before breakfast, you're gonna be addicted and wiothdrawal
 
i totally understand

i have some friends who smokes like 2 joints a day. i know its only marijuana but i mean.. everyday?? i cant stand the idea of been high every single day.

anyway.. ghb is difficult to find here in brazil (if not imbossible)
so, i'll be lucky if i can get any.

thanks for your advices!! i'll surely remember your words, specially when it comes to addiction.
 
Because once you become tolerant to any drug that can be used daily, like benzos, weed, alcohol, G.. you still get effects but they are slight.. like you see a stoner smoking 10 cones in an hour, while one puts you on your ass for 4 hours... they dont even feel close to that for 5 minutes after ripping down 3 big cones. weed wasnt doing anything to me, and G would require massive doses when i was addicted. like 5 or 6ml gbl just to feel anything when 3ml would make most people forceully goto sleep for an hour or 2.

if you're going to try it, avoid street shit is all i can say, know your source and purity.
 
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only1one said:
i have some friends who smokes like 2 joints a day. i know its only marijuana but i mean.. everyday?? i cant stand the idea of been high every single day.
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When you smoke enough and smoke regularly, being high is actually what relaxes you and makes you function properly. Im a tradesman, and for a while a year or 2 ago, i was smoking a joint before work, joint at lunch, and one as soon as i'd finished. I found i was much more focused when high, and got my work done quicker. If i hadn't smoked i was irritable and angry.

I didn't realise until i stopped how fucked up i actually was. When you smoke everyday you are smoking to "feel alright" not to get high.
 
..Yeah from cracking your head open...?

LD50 of GHB 1100mg/kg minimum to 2g/kg body weight.

People need to get over the "one ml more kills you" rubbish
 
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Or die.
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It's pretty hard to say GHB is more likely to kill you than say, MDMA. MDMA is a hell of a lot more likely to kill you, check the LD50s and then take into account that GHB is endogenous - therefore you can not be Allergic to it, unlike mdma where allergic reactions often kill you.
 
GHB is more likely to kill you than MDMA. That wasn't so hard to say. I can't say I really buy into the whole image of G being as bad as some make it out to be, but surely being in an unresponsive/unconscious state is far more dangerous than being munted. I daresay more people receive medical treatment from G overdoses than E overdoses.
 
peaked said:
GHB is more likely to kill you than MDMA. That wasn't so hard to say. I can't say I really buy into the whole image of G being as bad as some make it out to be, but surely being in an unresponsive/unconscious state is far more dangerous than being munted. I daresay more people receive medical treatment from G overdoses than E overdoses.
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judging from statistics, MDMA has killed alot more people than G.

I'm not talking about other health complications - i'm talking dying directly from acute toxicity/allergy. MDMA is alot more dangerous than G.
 
If you got medical attention a REAL G od. (read, not some minor blow out) theres no risk of death, where as when MDMA reaches toxicity theres not much you can do. And some people are allewrgic to the drug, it has killed before. If you were given a dose of GHB taylored to your body etc.. there would be no risk of death at all, where as if you give someone the standard 80-125mg of MDMA theres a chancew that person may die if they are allergic or have other health problems.

If G causes more hospital visits than MDMA Why dont we see anti-G commercials on TV as we saw people dieong from mdma, speed, heroin etc. on TV oiver the years and even recently
 
Last week was at a party and this guy was blowing out bigtime, I was trying to calm him down since most people there didnt have a clue. He was going spastic with big gurning type facial grins and headbutting into the walls. Wasnt fun ended up having to babysit a complete stranger while on those green rocket pills (nice). He managed to lax back for a while, and then boom back up and feeling normal again - lol ive stopped taking g its been 6 months now. Dont miss the stuff, but then I do benzos, so kindof replaced it heh..
 
OK say swim has some GBL that is 99.9% pure would you say it is stronger then pure GHB??? Also what would be a good dose for somebody who has never used it before and would it be a good idea to water it down if they were giving it to people who didn't know it was pure?
 
Yes it is stronger than GHB by far, and 1,4B.

I've had all of them in pure form. One gram of GHB is always going to be roughly the same as 1ml of 1,4b, although GHB will come on faster but it will be a lot cleaner feeling. For some reason too you can handle more pure GHB than 1,4B, gram for ml, before blowing out. I would put that down to other actions 1,4b has on the liver I guess.

But GBL is extremely strong, but not long lasting, because of how fast it is absorbed by the body. On an empty stomach you're feeling GBL within a minute, and the high is definitely starting 10-15 min later and peaks roughly half an hour later although you tend to feel more layed back after an hour.


My GBL dose was 2.5ml pure, and to get that same high i would need 4ml of pure 1,4b, and it still wouldnt do as much as GBL though because of how much slower 1,4b metabolises.. sure you can feel 1,4 after not too long but its nowhere near as fast as GBL.

I wish GBL was more available on the market, people tend to like 1,4b better for one reason.. the taste.. morons.
 
Mushi mushi, in addition to Splatt's comments, and I agree with them, that was around my dose as well, but both of us are experienced users, however, in my experiences, women tend to take a lot less than men. For a chick, specially a slightly built one, would start her on 1.5. DO NOT just guess! find yourself an accurate measurer, a medicine measuring from the pharmacy is a good one, usually up to 5 mil. You will need to dilute it with some juice, coke or something, as it will burn your mouth if you just take it straight. In the name of safety, a smaller amount is much better than a bigger one. You can always dose up, but cant dose down. When you do top up, generally about half the original is a good idea, not the same again. Sorry if you know all this, but unsure as to what extent you have researched it. Have fun with it, and be aware of the fine line between fun and dedication...I overstepped the line, and now can't touch it, although I maintain that it is the most fun I have ever had YMMV.
 
Yeah I didnt mean to intend everyone have those doses. i was just making a comparison

I gave 1.55ml to a chick who was about 65-73kg ? (cant really guess weight of girls).. and she said it was like having 20 glasses of wine (i told her it would be like having a few glasses of wine very quickly but cleaner..) i was going off my ex who only needed 1ml of pure gbl to get really fucked up, she was 5"3 and like 50something maybe 60 kg though. that dose would give her the full effects and then make her sleep for hours after eating food. both the same age bracket 23-24.. both get affected by alcohol a fair bit.
 
Watering down GBL is essential if they're used to street 1,4b, which is normally watered from 10 to 30% (or more in other places or depending on the dealer).. because if you just say its strong they won't listen. I learnt this after someone got a hold of my stuff somehow... and decided to have their usual dose of 3.5ml. he passed out in a bath tub and nearly died, and because he somehow got a fair bit, he caused 3 other overdoses in brisbane that weekend by not tewlling them it was stronger than usual even after his experience.

a lot of drug users, i would say most of them, are pretty misinformed , drugs are way too mainstream these days and nearly everyone has the australian alcohol attitude when it comes to drugs. do as much as u can while your still standing.

re: the watering down, just dose them yourself based on their weight and sex. Girls cant handle G as much as guys. even on a non blow out doses, they'll clsoe their eyes and just drift of to sleep. always start low and work your way up, and while doing this leave 2-3 hours apart for each retry... but. remember you dont gwet the full high that same day when redosing, so to know your perfect dose its best to wait till the next day even

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Splatt said:
Yes it is stronger than GHB by far, and 1,4B.

I've had all of them in pure form. One gram of GHB is always going to be roughly the same as 1ml of 1,4b, although GHB will come on faster but it will be a lot cleaner feeling. For some reason too you can handle more pure GHB than 1,4B, gram for ml, before blowing out. I would put that down to other actions 1,4b has on the liver I guess.
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can you provide references to this splatt please, mainly for the sake of people who will read this thread in the future
 
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