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GBL Megathread 5: Germans do it better

Because of the massive paperwork headache. It is a class C drug and nobody is going to sell 1l quantities to personal addresses for long before they get a knock.
 
atm23 said:
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You're quite right Treacle, I should have been a little clearer in my statement and a lot less dismissive about the potential risks. At the time I was tapering hard from Benzos so I suspect any withdrawals would have been lost in the noise of my longer term Benzo habit.

Despite Phenibut binding with GABA B, as does GBL and not A like Benzos I did find it a mildly useful diversion but it sounds invaluable for getting off the G. I have seen someone "professionally" detoxed from GBL using nothing but Zopiclone and Diazipam, it wasn't a pretty sight:\

Hope you're good DS
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GABA-b agonists seem to kill GABA-a withdrawals dead. The opposite is not true, if you're in a right state. At best, benzos will make you forget the horror of an acute GBL withdrawal. The first few withdrawals can be killed with benzos, but it gets to the point where they don't work. It's like opiate withdrawal - it just gets worse. It's like you become ultra sensitve to it.
 
I'm still a bit shocked at an enjoyable withdrawal. It just doesn't make any sense.
 
fuck me, my shipment came late and i ran out been using 30ml a day or so for last few months, i never realized how bad wd's can be tight chest, shaking, couldnt eat, feeling sick couldnt sleep
i got 500ml today and plan to taper off and never touch this again
 
I reckon the worst possible scenario is to receive half a litre, just as you're getting over a binge. You'll be lucky if you don't take the lot and end up in a proper mess. I know could never have managed that.
 
yoyo50 i'll post this here because your PM box is full.

how is the taper going?

Are you working at the moment? How long have you been 24/7? I was on 24/7 for 2 months straight, using it for sleep every night. 2ml every 2 hours and 3ml every 2-3 hours to sleep. I tapered for maybe one day then stopped. It was pretty rough for 3 days, but that is how long the worst of it was. I had some mild lingering anxiety for a week or so but the odd bit of diazepam sorted that out just fine.

When tapering basically just dose enough for it to be bearable and that is it, don't dose every 2 hours or whatever just don't dose for as long as you can bear.

Cammomile tea, say 2-3 tea bags in a pot, every hour really reduced the WD massively.
 
Cleared now, this run or so been using it for 4 months odd with a few week break in there but the last month and a half i was using 0.6 every 30-40 mins, and that fucked my sleep up so i starting using 2.2ml to get 2-3 hours sleep

ive cut that to 1.2 and im still getting 2-3 hours, done 1ml at 11, gonna just try go as long as i can

will grab some vallies and cammomile tea
 
I know someone who's had a hellish time on and off gbl for years. A couple of months ago he swapped to ghb and it's like he's a different bloke. He can do ghb for a few days at a time with hardly any WDs. With gbl, even just one or two doses was enough to bring on bad anxiety, mild depression and chronic insomnia. They've all but disappeared now and he's sleeping again unaided for the first time in a decade.

He tried swapping to ghb a few times before but always dabbled with gbl for the hit. It seems that the only way he can function on a day to day basis is to not touch gbl at all. Ghb might not be quite the same but it's a far better alternative.

It took about 6 weeks for him to start feeling okay. Now 10 weeks on, he actually feels really good. It's taken almost 10 years to come to this conclusion 8)
 
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It's ridiculously easy to convert, with easily purchased caustic soda (sodium hydroxide) and litmus paper. I know nothing much about chemistry, but it is very simple.
 
shit I totally forgot about the conversion difference.

yeah Na-GHB is NOTHING on GBL. Convert it and you will see :)
 
I used to use the Homecare one, available all over. Never experienced any impurities or anything. In fact, I've read that it's actually really pure. I'm not sure where, but I believe someone asked the company.
 
Can we not be so specific please, synth discussion is not allowed.


.....thanks....as you were;)
 
FWIW I've used the homebase stuff with good results and I was merley, politely ensuring we did not stray too far into the subject, you will note a lack of <snip>, it's a rule that I find difficult to deal with at times and have sometimes mistaken extraction for synth. I got banned from chemistry at school, well the practical anyway, after a number of incidents :)
 
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