Haha! G without stims helps my bellybuilding. It gives me the geebee-greedies.
That's very disciplined. I'm hopeless - once I start...8)
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GBL Megathread 5: Germans do it better
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deffinitely.
If you are an average sort of build, and don't get mega drug quickly or have an unusually low tollerance to benzos then i would dose 1.5ml on an empty stomach, wait 20 minutes and you are away.
Maybe dose around 1ml to begin with and build it up if you want to be cautious.
Dosing after eating is a little pointless, especially for a 1st time when you are looking for pleasurable effects and not just fighting off W/D.
If you are an average sort of build, and don't get mega drug quickly or have an unusually low tollerance to benzos then i would dose 1.5ml on an empty stomach, wait 20 minutes and you are away.
Maybe dose around 1ml to begin with and build it up if you want to be cautious.
Dosing after eating is a little pointless, especially for a 1st time when you are looking for pleasurable effects and not just fighting off W/D.
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i would redose .5ml at the half hour mark. The effects don't last that long and you are back to baseline after 2 hours.
This is what the dose response curve looks like, however GBL seems to hit slightly quicker and taper off slightly sooner in my experience:
however if you are dosing on an empty stomach I come up within 15 minutes, however, as with all drugs you try for the 1st time, it may take a little while to gauge effects.
If you have the overwhelming urge to wank off and eat while feeling pretty damn euphoric, it's hit you.
I am sure you are aware but it has a VERY steep dose:response curve, go slowly
This is what the dose response curve looks like, however GBL seems to hit slightly quicker and taper off slightly sooner in my experience:
however if you are dosing on an empty stomach I come up within 15 minutes, however, as with all drugs you try for the 1st time, it may take a little while to gauge effects.
If you have the overwhelming urge to wank off and eat while feeling pretty damn euphoric, it's hit you.
I am sure you are aware but it has a VERY steep dose:response curve, go slowly
Cheers for the help.
Overwhelming urge to wank off and eat. Sounds like my kind of drug.
Doesn't smell to foul this stuff. I assume it'll still taste acrid though, gonna dilute it to shit in a load of orange juice as per instruction.
Overwhelming urge to wank off and eat. Sounds like my kind of drug.
Doesn't smell to foul this stuff. I assume it'll still taste acrid though, gonna dilute it to shit in a load of orange juice as per instruction.
I used to use just enough for a large mouthful, which can then be chased with less foul tasting stuff, if needed. You can use a litre of orange, and it will still taste like shit, so get it down in one.
Onandoff: That sounds similar to how I started out with G. I'd have 3-4mls a day, after work, and have no trouble sleeping. Then I started waking up, in the night - it wasn't unpleasant, I just couldn't sleep. I'd get back to sleep, eventually, but one day I didn't have the patience to wait, and that's when trouble started. Make sure you don't slip into that trap, it's so easy to do.
The first withdrawals are nothing (for people reading this that have done in a litre, and just feel a bit alert), but you'll quickly find they escalate, until you NEED medication to sort you out. As soon as you start taking it 24/7, stop. Tip it. It seduced the fuck out of me, at a massive price. I always thought 'yeah, I'll stop tomorrow'....
Onandoff: That sounds similar to how I started out with G. I'd have 3-4mls a day, after work, and have no trouble sleeping. Then I started waking up, in the night - it wasn't unpleasant, I just couldn't sleep. I'd get back to sleep, eventually, but one day I didn't have the patience to wait, and that's when trouble started. Make sure you don't slip into that trap, it's so easy to do.
The first withdrawals are nothing (for people reading this that have done in a litre, and just feel a bit alert), but you'll quickly find they escalate, until you NEED medication to sort you out. As soon as you start taking it 24/7, stop. Tip it. It seduced the fuck out of me, at a massive price. I always thought 'yeah, I'll stop tomorrow'....
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Yeah. I hear ya treacle. I actually read all the previous mega threads back in 2010 before I started and read many of your posts Treacle... thanks for your contribution and all the advices. Without these bluelight threads I woulda been really harmed. I have experienced that phase where I am waking up no matter what after 4 hours. I take that as a big warning and stop for a while when that happens.
3g Phenibut at 02:00am SaturdayThat's made me chuffed that my idiocy wasn't in vain.
1g Phenibut at 08:30am Saturday
When should I do my next dose? Should I do another after? I don't want phenibut wds.
It has been amazingly effective so far.
Hey DS, Hope you're fairing well, I don't know what others experiences are but I tried using Phenibut to ease benzo withdrawal. I did 2-3g a day for about a week and then stopped with no ill effects at all. But clearly the stuff should be approached with caution and treated with some respect you don't want to go exchanging one habit for another.
I really didn't find it very compelling, which was a good thing but it did take a edges off just when I needed something.
Hope you get on OK, best wishes to ya
I really didn't find it very compelling, which was a good thing but it did take a edges off just when I needed something.
Hope you get on OK, best wishes to ya
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Don't mix downers with downers - its a really bad idea.
Really glad he phenibut has been working DS_ :D Maybe a dose to sleep tonight then stop tomorrow, so you're stopping while well-rested? That doesn't seem excessive as you've only been taking it since Sat evening.. but others are much more experienced than I am
Munroe, I'm with kate. Downers combined are very risky, they potentiate the respiratory depression and catch many people out, and G + opioids seems to be one of the most dangerous combos out there. Avoid.
Munroe, I'm with kate. Downers combined are very risky, they potentiate the respiratory depression and catch many people out, and G + opioids seems to be one of the most dangerous combos out there. Avoid.
Thanks for the advice kate/effie.
Was unable to find much with a bit of googling so held off until I got a response here. Good thing I did really. Would only have had maybe 0.25ml to test the waters but by the sounds of things that'd have been enough for things to go pete tongue.
Was unable to find much with a bit of googling so held off until I got a response here. Good thing I did really. Would only have had maybe 0.25ml to test the waters but by the sounds of things that'd have been enough for things to go pete tongue.
I want to give the highest praise to phenibut and etizolam for GBL withdrawals. It almost stopped the withdrawals except a small case of hand tremors I was otherwise fine. I'd even say happier than usual. I'm on Day 3 now and I've woken up early and feeling extremely productive. I just woke my girlfriend up frantically tidying the room.
Good luck to others tackling this horrid chemical.
Good luck to others tackling this horrid chemical.
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I caved in and bought another 500ml, i actually felt fine the days after i stopped after 3 months of using and then after a week i felt even shitter, its been 2 weeks now so psshh
Sorry, DS, I need to check Bluelight more. Have you stopped the phenibut, now? You should be through the worst of the G withdrawals.
atm: Some people would get withdrawals from that amount of use - so I'd say you're quite lucky. You'll probably get them, if you keep repeating it.
atm: Some people would get withdrawals from that amount of use - so I'd say you're quite lucky. You'll probably get them, if you keep repeating it.
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You're quite right Treacle, I should have been a little clearer in my statement and a lot less dismissive about the potential risks. At the time I was tapering hard from Benzos so I suspect any withdrawals would have been lost in the noise of my longer term Benzo habit.
Despite Phenibut binding with GABA B, as does GBL and not A like Benzos I did find it a mildly useful diversion but it sounds invaluable for getting off the G. I have seen someone "professionally" detoxed from GBL using nothing but Zopiclone and Diazipam, it wasn't a pretty sight![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
Hope you're good DS
You're quite right Treacle, I should have been a little clearer in my statement and a lot less dismissive about the potential risks. At the time I was tapering hard from Benzos so I suspect any withdrawals would have been lost in the noise of my longer term Benzo habit.
Despite Phenibut binding with GABA B, as does GBL and not A like Benzos I did find it a mildly useful diversion but it sounds invaluable for getting off the G. I have seen someone "professionally" detoxed from GBL using nothing but Zopiclone and Diazipam, it wasn't a pretty sight
Hope you're good DS