film: alice in wonderland (tim burton)

[TheDeceased]

Burtons Mad Hatter reminds me of his Willy Wonka. Doesn't look right.

 

[btrswiet7u4ia]

I think the Mad Hatter and Willy Wonka both resemble Depp's personality XD

 

[undead]

edward scissorhands
big fish
batman
batman begins
nightmare before christmas
willy wonka (don't care what people say i enjoyed it thoroughly)
sleepy hollow
beetlejuice
ed wood

let's be honest... not many directors make as many quality films as tim burton has. sure he's made a few duds (in some peoples' opinions), but give the man some credit for jebus' sake!

 

[AmorRoark]

I think the point is that if only those were in chronological order it would be fairly widely-agreed that the quality has gone down.

 

[justsomeguy]

yeah he's going to fuck this up....the way i see it, its going to just be this really awkward cgi mess

mars attacks was great though

 

[mariacallas]

I dont think he'll fuck anything up at all. Tsk tsk tsk....all you naysayers. Still cant wait for this one.

 

[TheDeceased]

He should have done 'Through The Looking Glass' instead.

The story of Alice in Wonderland is too familiar and iconic. Like 'Planet of the Apes' and 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory'. Everybody knows them already. They've been referenced in countless TV shows and films.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0140902/ - here's Lewis Carrols imdb page.

Check out how many times this film has already been made.

It's ridiculous.

There are three seperate adaptations coming out in 2010, all of them produced in the USA.

I'd personally rather go and see 'Alice' (the one adapted from the weird video game) because at least then the film might have some surprises up it's sleeve rather than just being last years presents re-wrapped in brighter and shinier paper.

 

[vegan]

let's look at it another way

if you could choose would be the director to remake alice in wonderland, who would you choose?
the first 2 who come to my mind are burton and gilliam
then maybe Tarsem Singh

 

[mariacallas]

Amy Heckerling.








I keed.

 

[StarOceanHouse]

Isn't the new movie supposed to be a sequel to both books?

 

[AmorRoark]

let's look at it another way

if you could choose would be the director to remake alice in wonderland, who would you choose?
the first 2 who come to my mind are burton and gilliam
then maybe Tarsem Singh

I'd probably pick a somewhat unknown director... or none at all? Why does it need to be remade?

 

[Max Power]

because I said so.

 

[AmorRoark]

In that case, ok moms.

 

[mariacallas]

w0rd!!!!

 

[vegan]

Why does it need to be remade?

it doesn't need too. imagination is good enough
but there's a fantastic potential with the cinema techniques that now exist

(a fantastic potential for disappointment too, i grant you)

a quote that i love :

Alice laughed. “There’s no use trying,” she said, “one can’t believe impossible things.”
“I daresay you haven’t had much practice,” said the Queen. “When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why sometimes I believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast!”

 

[TheDeceased]

That is indeed one of MANY wonderful quotes from Alice in Wonderland.. and I love the text, but I just don't think that Burton is going to outshine Disney's adaptation. Or at least it's not going to be enough of an improvement to be worthwhile.

As far as I'm concerned the only point in remaking something is if the original was considerably flawed or if you're offering something new.

But Burton is so arrogant that he thinks he doesn't need to add anything. He is so confident in his visual style that he thinks he can take any film and remake it by stamping it with his signature.

If he hadn't failed so miserably at his last two attempts at remaking classic films, then I wouldn't be so disinterested in this.

 

[ravaged_eden]

OMG. I have high hopes that this will be amazing.

 

[cocacrazy]

Tim Burton sucks at directing remakes. Lets see Batman, sleepy hollow, planet of the apes and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory were all terrible. It seems that he tries to create something so different from the original that it just falls on its face.

Hopefully this time though he will focus as much on the story line as the cgi.

 

[TheDeceased]

It seems that he tries to create something so different from the original that it just falls on its face.

Well said.

 

[Jamshyd]

I think that Carroll's Alice in Wonderland (probably my favourite work of literature alongside the similar Fairytales of Oscar Wilde) posess a certain type of ironic humour that I find to be completely lost on many of my North American (ie. Candian and American) friends. It seems they tend to interpret a lot of it as "cheesy". I guess there is a sort of cultural incongruity involved.

I'd be interested to see this film get off the gound without the need to resort to the "goth alice" that a lot of North Americans seem to like.

As it stands, I think this will be an utter failure, since the magic of alice in wonderland is largely dependant on word-play and logical fallacy/paradox, both of which are very difficult (impossible?) to present as film.