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'I have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiates me from a doormat.'
- Rebecca West

Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
- Reverend Pat Robertson

Does feminist mean large unpleasant person who'll shout at you or someone who believes women are human beings. To me it's the latter, so I sign up. - Margaret Atwood

You know, when I first went into the movies Lionel Barrymore played my grandfather. Later he played my father and finally he played my husband. If he had lived I'm sure I would have played his mother. That's the way it is in Hollywood. The men get younger and the women get older. ~Lillian Gish

Because women's work is never done and is underpaid or unpaid or boring or repetitious and we're the first to get fired and what we look like is more important than what we do and if we get raped it's our fault and if we get beaten we must have provoked it and if we raise our voices we're nagging bitches and if we enjoy sex we're nymphos and if we don't we're frigid and if we love women it's because we can't get a "real" man and if we ask our doctor too many questions we're neurotic and/or pushy and if we expect childcare we're selfish and if we stand up for our rights we're aggressive and "unfeminine" and if we don't we're typical weak females and if we want to get married we're out to trap a man and if we don't we're unnatural and because we still can't get an adequate safe contraceptive but men can walk on the moon and if we can't cope or don't want a pregnancy we're made to feel guilty about abortion and...for lots of other reasons we are part of the women's liberation movement.

~Author unknown, quoted in The Torch, 14 September 1987
 
Uppity Wimmin Unite!

Most of us meet the concept of feminism in very personal places, which may be why so many of us initially act so strongly against it. Yeah. It requires us to examine the forces that have shaped who and why we are, and then requires us to challenge those forces and change. Change can be hard. Hell, change can be fucking terrifying - especially when it means examining the foundation of our culture and finding that it's rotten, built on shifting sands of fear and hatred (not bad, eh?).

The war on women (wimmin!) is one of the longest and bloodiest ever, and its' soldiers are you and I. We participate every day with our words, our eyes, our thoughts and our actions. Everytime we reduce women to body parts, everytime we marginalise, patronise, or objectify women, we are participating in slaughter, and almost everything around us encourages us to do so. Every form of media is enlisted to keep us convinced that women should remain oppressed and that "they like it that way". The ideas planted in the deepest parts of our person by television, advertising and pornography all tell us that hatred is acceptable. Entire lives and eras and systems of thought have been dedicated to convincing us that it is. IT'S NOT. Duh.

Feminism is located at the crossroads of all human prejudice. It is especially concerned with issues of class. We live in a society that requires poverty because desperate, exploitable labour-pools mean more profits for capitalism's asshole elites. Poverty's first target is women: women who make up the majority of sweat-shop labour around the world, women who must feed their children, women who have little or no control over their reproductive lives. So until there's economic justice, there won't be gender justice.

Affirmative action in the work-place is important, but real justice will never be gained solely by women becoming a part of the corporate elite. As the great feminist poet, Audre Lorde, said: "The master's tools will not dismantle the master's house." FEMINISM IS IN EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST. Go look at your record collection. Your television. Your bookshelf. What do you see there. If you're like me, chances are that between 75 and 100 percent of the artistic expression you consume is made by white, heterosexual, middle to upper-class males. Maybe we should be asking ourselves: AREN'T WE BEING CHEATED?? White heterosexual middle-class males make up a miniscule portion of the people on this planet! Think of all the emotions and thoughts we're missing! The incredible variety of voices that are lost due to our society's sexism!

Feminism's primary concern is social justice, and wrapped up in that concern is the potential of every individual to be more complete, more informed and, well... happy! Knowledge - cliché, but true - is our greatest weapon (besides Jord's ass). Why do you think that we aren't encouraged to explore and experience dissenting perspectives in our schools? Knowledge has got to include self-knowledge, because an understanding of the sexist shit that has been buried deep within us is the crucial first step we've got to take towards justice between genders. We've gotta try to understand ourselves well enough to have the courage and self-confidence to confront the blatant and subtle forms of sexism that we experience everyday. We have to be able to look into the eyes of that asshead who just told a misogynist joke and say, "look, tough-guy, I know you're afraid, but what you're scared of is inside of you. You don't have to be afraid anymore." You have the power to make that choice.

- Chris, Propagandhi
 
i must say that im anti-feminist... and I really should just shut up now, but this is how i truly feel about this whole fucked up situation.

Men are naturally leaders. We are stronger, we can work longer and harder than women, we don't get knocked up, we don't manipulate people with power, or go digging for old men with money, we are the only US presidents as to date, we dont get PMS, we don't whine to much, we don't complain when its too hot or too cold, we don't get paid for doing nothing when a divorce ensues, we go and get shot at overseas while women might send some quilts, we don't complain about how much society oppresses us (which is VERY true and ill elaborate), we don't like to gossip, our friends are there mostly for drinking beer and watching football, we don't lie to people and tell them we are on birth control when we are in fact not, we don't force anyone to rub our sore feet, we don't have to live three doors down from our parents or immediate family, we don't marry someone hoping to "change them" after the ceremony is sealed, we don't use sex as a tool to get what we want etc.........

NOW- i am totally generalizing here, and i do suspect BLer girls are much more "chill" than the average american woman.

But from my experience, many my girlfriends (with different kinds of personalitys) exhibited these similar traits.

Men are just more logical.

In this country , The U S of A, a mens revolution is taking place. We are sick of Vagina-moany (alimony) , biased divorce cases, and the increasing dominance of controlling women under the banner of so-called "feminism" ...

We are sick of being depicted as bumbleing beer-drinking fools on TV sitcoms, while the housewife is shown as the "sensible" one...

Men are getting weaker and weaker as a gender due to this feminist thing, and i think its about god damn time any woman living with a man offer a little more support and respect to him as a provider. its damn stressful.

If you can't do that, then get the fuck out, get your own job, and then see how fun life is. and , by the way, don't leave your shit at my place on your way out.

I used to date "hot-chicks" .... now i know they are all mostly bitches with identity problems and horrendus personalities.

So I try to date "cute" girls who are fun and easy to be with, and look up to me, because thats what I want and need as a man.

No girl is getting the key to my house unless shes 1 in a million.

I can't stand any granola, anti-leg-shaving, vagina monologue attending, man-hating carpet munchers any more!

in my opionion 90% of women are mostly evil, and if you are a female reading this hopefully your in the 10% that are cool.

The funny thing is, usually, when I explain these feelings to a woman, shes suddenly more attracted to me :P

disclaimer: this is a generalization, there are exceptions to the rule, but rarely.
 
doofqueen said:
'I have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiates me from a doormat.'
- Rebecca West
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because any woman who does not identify herself with the feminism stereotype (first, second, third wave?) is automatically considered weak towards the opposite sex

lame
 
I have much greater respect for a woman, who values her family, man, children; more than her status as being "weak". It takes a "weaker" individual to not to go through with it. I have known very strong mothers, who raised boys to be great leaders in society. (I am born and raised mormon) Wouldn't you agree if you raised five fucking children it would be a little stressful? I am a very stoned presently, and mj laced with twizzleforshizzlemynizzle ... Yeah0 yeah its that bad!!!
Im normally pretty liberal, but i have respect for women who value there role as a nuturer (ie Mama) and who offer a nice piece ass in the sack. (i.e. they like to have lots of sex)
there are loads of these types of girls in america, and i am certain I will find it very ... umm, simple to find a woman out of this ocean of hot horny girls. I have been to college two years, and in that time I had sex with many mormon girls (who had either seldom or never had sex before) and they were all very conservative, yet consumed with sexual lust and partook in secretive guilty "mistakes" ... with young mormon boys such as myself. But as is customery, I'll normally only have sex with a girl for like a night-- or maybe a few weeks if shes that much of a fox. I'm sorry if this offends you, but i am feeling very chatty, and this is really coming from the deepest part of my heart as a normal guy in america. Southern Girls are hot, mormon girls are hot. I guess my point is, that most guys would rather have a chick who is a little lless hung up on the idea of "independence" or whatever...
I usually just don't click with my like, Lesbian 50 year old feminist literature professors, at my university. I love the movie fight club, I like boxing, I like to dance, I love women.... But I guess what im trying to say is that generally guys tend to think of most hard-core feminists, as bitches. It's kind of annoying to hang out with a chick whos gonna analyze the shit outta the power structure going on in a male-female relationship. Its called mutual respect; .. its probably not easy dealing with a girlfriend/wife whos paranoid or whiny about whether shes getting her selfish desires.. I don't know how to word that any better; but im sure some of you guys out there can relate. . Anyone whos been in a relationship. I love chicks who can hold conversation thats stimulating. I love chicks who like good music. I like women (should I say girls? I am just twenty years old ..) /Girls who like to do adventure-activities. You don't have to be hung up on whether your being treated properly, it would be wiser to just be a less self-centered person. Its like I said before; "if you don't like where this is going with me then get the fuck out" (thats how I broke up with my last girlfriend who was living with me)
I once had a girlfriend who was totally in love with me for a month and a half, and suddenly broke up with me in one night because I told her that I believed women should feel obligated to stay home and raise children. If your mother did not choose to raise you, your fucking soul would not exist this very instant. You should thank God, or allah, or whatever you believe in every nite; that your mama got pregnant and had your ass broght to this planet. Don't you believe that there are "spirits" or "entities" out there who are your future children just waiting to be born and added to the fabric of life? I think its pretty selfish for any person to automatically rule out a family life in pursuit of selfish desires... No matter what happens I will spread my seed; I think its what life expects out of us. I feel its an obligation at SOME point in my life; not any time soon hopefully.... (im rambling, but this is a very important topic for me) ...
I think a woman who is going to find the most fulfilling rewarding life is the one who marries a good man, and raises at least ONE kid. (but more gets you brownie points if your mormon, or catholic,..... or any latino for that matter) My kids are gonna be fucking genius's with my motivational parenting skills. Im going to take my family camping, and just love the hell out of them.
The hard part is finding the right woman to do all this with.... so for now, ill just keep practicing "baby-making" , only strapped with a rubber, with as many chicks I find semi-decent. Why?
because this is a revolution. women don't want to be on there own. They are genetically prototyped by nature to cling to a man, and raise babies. I'm sorry buts its just the "facts of life". I'm a decendent of polygamist mormons from utah...You may say this gives me a biased perspective, since it does... You see, my entire fucking beautiful existense on this planet is based soley upon the fact that my polygamist fore-fathers in the 18th and 19th centurys, had up to seven wives a piece. (because southern baptists from missouri wiped out many of the mormon men, in mob violence.) Many mormon men were just put in Jail for years on trumped-up charges. The church was almost a cult back then... But a cult built upon the family unit, which eventually through revelation or necesity, became polygamy. A few women left the church, but most stayed. Those women had to share one husband with sometimes up to ten wives. And you know what? It worked. The familes would end up so happy, and the potential for any "feministic" attitude would jeoprodize the very structure that this particular American society was formed on. Which is by the way, the fastest spreading religion on the earth today. Im not saying it is or isn't true, but what I am saying is that Mormon women, who are WOMEN, mostly despise feminist types. Because mormon women are dedicted to to a guy, and his children born by her. My mother annoys the shit out of me, but its only because shes that dedictated to trying to do whats best for me. A feminist my not care as much about children or a strong famliy, based upon aforementioned feminist ideals.
This is my perspective on things. I find most feminist broads are just making for the fact that the could be fugly, or fat, or even lesbian. It's just the natural thing to do if you are a woman with these descriptives details. I don't blame you for being a feminist, but think what would have likely happened if your mother chose to be a feminist, before you were born, - you might not be on mother earth right now. .... thats my closing thought.
Now, when will dinner be ready?
 
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well........yes
i actually do
next time if you're posting a novel for your own benefit on a public forum, think about how lonely your livejournal's private post section must be and take advantage
 
I can write as much as I damn well please as long as its relevant to the topic, and I have perfectly valid reasoning for my opionion. Anyone who wants to read it, and actually take some real intrest in something very important in every persons life. That decision being whether to decide for yourself whether a feminist attitude is morally sound..... But its ok, Im glad women like you won't have children, because as society goes on, my characteristics will be carried on by many of my loins. Probably from many different women of different heritages, looks, talents, and other genetic gifts. And you probably won't be one of those women.
 
i dont try, thats what i think.... and I love to get in gender-based-arguments with online forum freaks.
 
well assuming you had a vagina, and a uterus and all that good stuff. based on your view that feminism is a good thing for humanity, lets just say. If we were hanging out smokin gang, I wouldnt want you to start "Preachin" feminazi bullshit to me. And if you were a chick you certainly wouldnt be the mare of my stead.
 
Since you're such a traditionalist, how are you going to support all these women and the children they're going to have. I mean, you wouldn't expect them to go out and get jobs would you?
 
if you can find my post where i sided with feminism, i'll have your children motiv

i just have issues with people who type posts the size of bibles that contain a fortune-cookie-paper-strip amount of content
 
I plan to reinvent vintage styled mormon polygamy; just without rape, abuse, and most-wanted FBI fugitives.
Human History is filled with succesful breeding and rearing of children through polygamist relationships.
Wouldn't it be interesting to have several children with, say, four different women who you respect and love in thier each unique ways? Your children would carry your own character traits, plus those of your wifely ensemble.
So little Pete can hit the baseball much further than bobby; and little Rachel can already read and she's just three years old!
This just feels right to me.
 
There's organisations for people like you. They're called cults.

I'm sure there's a run down old farm house you can buy out West to start your little family. Make sure you have a gas mask for each member of the family though. When the cops start shooting tear gas through the windows you want to be prepared.

Make sure you wire the place as well to take down as many of the pig fucks as you can.
 
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