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Film Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
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panic_the_digital
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One of my all time favorites that I unfortunately lent to a douche-bag stoner who I don't want to bother with. I saw it in the theater before I had touched any drugs, and laughed my ass off. One must read some of his other works, as his sense of reality, though often warped, usually is dead-on. Read Generation of Swine, and then cry yourself to sleep.
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I love Fear&Loathing in Las Vegas, but unfortunately I think too that it do a disservice to the whole work of Hunter S. Thompson.
He was weird, eccentric, but he was a genius too and a wonderful political & social analyst.
Unfortunately most of the people are unable to see in Fear&Loathing more than a drug's orgy.
People should watch "Where the buffalo roams", the first movie about Hunter S. Thompson, with Bill Murray. The movie is really well-down and more representative of the personality and work of Thompson I think.
He was weird, eccentric, but he was a genius too and a wonderful political & social analyst.
Unfortunately most of the people are unable to see in Fear&Loathing more than a drug's orgy.
People should watch "Where the buffalo roams", the first movie about Hunter S. Thompson, with Bill Murray. The movie is really well-down and more representative of the personality and work of Thompson I think.
it's a minor aside but this is one of the few movies i've seen which, with some degree of accuracy, has portrayed (to me) the true feel of the visual hallucinations created by lsd.
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alasdairm said:
I think that the visual potential of the book is what inspired and interested the most Terry Gilliam, former Monty Python and Fear&Loathing director.
He generally has a particular way to manage light and photography in his movies, like Bandit, Army of the twelwe monkeys (is this the name in english?) or Brazil. So under this aspect Fear&Loathing was a gold mine for him.
Speaking about the work of Thompson, I read recently that some people are trying to make a movie from "The Rhum Diaries". It will probably give to the public another vision of his work, or at least I hope so !
rincewindrocks
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I dont think its wrong to compare a movie and a book. Yes, they're different mediums, but if they tell the same story....
As an example, if you want to use a stimulant to help you study, there are a wide range of options. They arent necessarily gonna make you feel the same way, but you're analyzing them for the same purpose.
With that said, this is one of the few movies that is as good, if not better, than the book. The first couple times I watched it, before I read the book, I was slightly confused (especially about the sequence of events following the adrenochrom) and the book cleared things up. But I was still able to appreciate the movie after reading the book, maybe even appreciate it more, which is very rare for me.
As an example, if you want to use a stimulant to help you study, there are a wide range of options. They arent necessarily gonna make you feel the same way, but you're analyzing them for the same purpose.
With that said, this is one of the few movies that is as good, if not better, than the book. The first couple times I watched it, before I read the book, I was slightly confused (especially about the sequence of events following the adrenochrom) and the book cleared things up. But I was still able to appreciate the movie after reading the book, maybe even appreciate it more, which is very rare for me.
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@rincewindrocks
I don't agree, because Terry Gilliam exploited deliberately and with talent the hallucinary/visual aspect of the book.
The book itself emphasizes more about the failure of the American Dream and the Hippie culture... So it's more a social critique than anything else.
Thompson was not just a wacko, he was a great mind as well, able to analyse in minute detail the american social and political realities, beyond "mouth clichés" and lies, and communicating it with brillio to the people.
He's ability to decrypt this aspects of reality and anticipate future moves converted him in the first journalist who interviewed Jimmy Carter, while he just was a state governor, before he submitted his candidature as president.
I don't agree, because Terry Gilliam exploited deliberately and with talent the hallucinary/visual aspect of the book.
The book itself emphasizes more about the failure of the American Dream and the Hippie culture... So it's more a social critique than anything else.
Thompson was not just a wacko, he was a great mind as well, able to analyse in minute detail the american social and political realities, beyond "mouth clichés" and lies, and communicating it with brillio to the people.
He's ability to decrypt this aspects of reality and anticipate future moves converted him in the first journalist who interviewed Jimmy Carter, while he just was a state governor, before he submitted his candidature as president.
The Liberal Media
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Dj ScAtTeRfAcE said:
My sentiments exactly, this movie isnt " cool" its basically blatent abuse of psycedelics, if these drugs were of so much benefit to hunter, why is he not alive now? the real challenge in psycedelics is not to desensitize yourself and blow your head off like hunter, but to go out and make an effort to make the world a ( not necesarily) better place , where you can bring your experiences to the fore.
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Zappa said:
Same thing happened to me with DOGMA.
8) I like the way this game 'Kingdom of Loathing' I play describes it when you eat the astral mushrooms "You eat the mushroom. Everything seems so... Signifigant" because I definitly know the feeling. Sometimes when you come down you're just like damn that was one STUPID ASS realization. More often then nought you come away with something good though.
On the topic of this movie, I have seen it stoned and when tripping on psychedelics - I agree with the other guy when he said it was just a huge overload. Way funnier when you are just drunk/stoned.
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MissMojoRisin
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In my top 5, for sure!
My favorite is the bathtub scene, fucking priceless, I love it!
My favorite is the bathtub scene, fucking priceless, I love it!
ChemicalBeauty
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Bazooko's Circus is what the world would be doing every Saturday night if the Nazis had won the war. This was the Sixth Reich. "
How long could we maintain? I wondered. How long until one of us starts raving and jabbering at this boy? What will he think then? This same lonely desert was the last known home of the Manson family; will he make that grim connection when my attorney starts screaming about bats and huge manta rays coming down on the car? If so, well, we'll just have to cut his head off and bury him somewhere, 'cause it goes without saying that we can't turn him loose. He'd report us at once to some kind of outback Nazi law enforcement agency and they'll run us down like dogs. Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?
There was only one road back to L.A. - U.S. Interstate 15. Just a flat-out high speed burn through Baker and Barstow and Berdoo. Then onto the Hollywood Freeway, and straight on into frantic oblivion. Safety. Obscurity. Just another freak, in the freak kingdom.
But our trip was different. It was to be a classic affirmation of everything right and true in the national character. A gross physical salute to the fantastic possibilities of life in this country. But only for those with true grit.
[to hitchhiker]
And we are chock full of that, man
Ah, devil ether. It makes you behave like the village drunkard in some early Irish novel. Total loss of all basic motor function. Blurred vision, no balance, numb tongue. The mind recoils in horror, unable to communicate with the spinal column. Which is interesting because you can actually watch yourself behaving in this terrible way, but you can't control it.
The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride
How long could we maintain? I wondered. How long until one of us starts raving and jabbering at this boy? What will he think then? This same lonely desert was the last known home of the Manson family; will he make that grim connection when my attorney starts screaming about bats and huge manta rays coming down on the car? If so, well, we'll just have to cut his head off and bury him somewhere, 'cause it goes without saying that we can't turn him loose. He'd report us at once to some kind of outback Nazi law enforcement agency and they'll run us down like dogs. Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?
There was only one road back to L.A. - U.S. Interstate 15. Just a flat-out high speed burn through Baker and Barstow and Berdoo. Then onto the Hollywood Freeway, and straight on into frantic oblivion. Safety. Obscurity. Just another freak, in the freak kingdom.
But our trip was different. It was to be a classic affirmation of everything right and true in the national character. A gross physical salute to the fantastic possibilities of life in this country. But only for those with true grit.
[to hitchhiker]
And we are chock full of that, man
Ah, devil ether. It makes you behave like the village drunkard in some early Irish novel. Total loss of all basic motor function. Blurred vision, no balance, numb tongue. The mind recoils in horror, unable to communicate with the spinal column. Which is interesting because you can actually watch yourself behaving in this terrible way, but you can't control it.
The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride
indelibleface
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It was okay...
Not the best Gilliam film around.
Not the best Gilliam film around.
"Where the buffalo roam" is fear and loathing based movie starring Bill Murray. It gets same ratings as Fear and Loathing on netflix. Can't believe noone has mentioned WBR but alas it was made in 1980, before most of you were born. Instead of watching F+L for the umpteenth time ,rent Where the buffalo roam, put in a chew of coca and see something "new" to you. I haven't seen it since it came out but remember enjoying it. Bill Murray plays a great Hunter.
nofx
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I must have seen this movie around 20-30 and I never seem to grow tired of it because I always find new things in the movie I wasn't paying attention to. Favorite parts would have to be: In the beginning duke pulls over the car to retrieve the bag in trunk, when duke first arrives to the hotel and thinks hes surrounded by a fucking reptile zoo, the part where they are watching the movies with the cops and find out how mislead the cops are, the flashback to club matrix and the bathroom scene lickin the lsd off the sleeve hopefully scarring that man's life.