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Benzos Etizolam

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This is crappy stuff. I thnk I'm just immune to benzoes. Valium does NOTHING for me and I went through1000 mg of Phenazepam in one week without much effect. The only thing that had some recreational effect on me was Zopliclone. But that was before I started using Lyrica, which has probably shot my already poor sesitivity to benzoes. The only benzo I tried that was worth something, and might be called semi-recreational was Rohypnol. At least it was useful on a long train ride, gone was all the stress and discomfort, slipping pleasantly in and out of consciousness, and time passing by like you wouldn't know. Nothing that I would call really eupjoric, but still some kind of enjoyable effect.
 
The Intas Etilaam brand have that slighly sweet taste. Is nice when you are letting them dissolve in your mouth. Ironically it is that aspect that adds to the addictiveness of them. The Depas brand has no taste to them, and I have not tasted the bashed out crap that many RC vendors are now selling.
 
"This is crappy stuff. I thnk I'm just immune to benzoes. Valium does NOTHING for me and I went through1000 mg of Phenazepam in one week without much effect. The only thing that had some recreational effect on me was Zopliclone. But that was before I started using Lyrica, which has probably shot my already poor sesitivity to benzoes. The only benzo I tried that was worth something, and might be called semi-recreational was Rohypnol. At least it was useful on a long train ride, gone was all the stress and discomfort, slipping pleasantly in and out of consciousness, and time passing by like you wouldn't know. Nothing that I would call really eupjoric, but still some kind of enjoyable effect."



Your Tolerance is sky high, need to take a breaker or taper down for a bit. I found regular use of Lryrica and Benzos to really increase my tolerance, so am laying off and using alternatives to chill out.
 
Ninae said:
This is crappy stuff. I thnk I'm just immune to benzoes. Valium does NOTHING for me and I went through1000 mg of Phenazepam in one week without much effect. The only thing that had some recreational effect on me was Zopliclone. But that was before I started using Lyrica, which has probably shot my already poor sesitivity to benzoes. The only benzo I tried that was worth something, and might be called semi-recreational was Rohypnol. At least it was useful on a long train ride, gone was all the stress and discomfort, slipping pleasantly in and out of consciousness, and time passing by like you wouldn't know. Nothing that I would call really eupjoric, but still some kind of enjoyable effect.
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I wouldn't go around saying this is crappy stuff when it's obviously your tolerance that's the problem here. Do you use benzo's daily? If you can take 1000mg of pure phenazepam in one week without much effect I'd strongly recommend you slowly taper yourself off of all benzos before you do some serious damage to yourself.
 
Ninae said:
This is crappy stuff. I thnk I'm just immune to benzoes. Valium does NOTHING for me and I went through1000 mg of Phenazepam in one week without much effect. The only thing that had some recreational effect on me was Zopliclone. But that was before I started using Lyrica, which has probably shot my already poor sesitivity to benzoes. The only benzo I tried that was worth something, and might be called semi-recreational was Rohypnol. At least it was useful on a long train ride, gone was all the stress and discomfort, slipping pleasantly in and out of consciousness, and time passing by like you wouldn't know. Nothing that I would call really eupjoric, but still some kind of enjoyable effect.
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Benzos aren't generally considered a great recreational drug. Dosing high is almost never going to give desired effects. There's a definite sweet spot.
 
elucidate said:
erm no not distilled water, dilute acid. "It is practically insoluble in water, but soluble
in dilute acid" - from a WHO document (here).
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One of the nitrogens probably gets protonated, or maybe even the sulfur. Either would make it soluble in water, distilled or not. Most things will always be slightly more soluble in distilled water because there are more free H2O particles to interact with.
 
In a few weeks i'm going to be taking roughly 30-60mg of Vyvanse just to get a whole bunch of work done (lis-dexamphetamine) on one single day,
however, Adderall and vyvanse and the like always make me very anxiogenic, would it be against recommendation to combine 1mg etizolam a few hours after
I ingest the lis-dexapmphetamine? I have a feeling this could possibly be a productive combo indeed for me.
 
The thing is, I have hardly touched any benzoe in my life, so my tolerance should be around zero. But they have never worked for me. I now blame the Lyrica/Gabapentin, or maybe I just lack the receptors for benzoes to bind to, as even as a naive drug user they didn't do much. It's just like taking a sleeping pill - makes you drowsy then get to sleep.
 
Oh, I have almost used no benzoes, and the Phenazepam I got through with not side effects or withdrawals of any kind, It was only a week's use.
 
Used 8mg over three days. Best three days I've had in years. That sort of dosage is going to start being extremely problematic in terms of dependance and addiction if kept up anymore though. Now limiting myself to use this only 2 days every week.
 
Yes, I can see their potential for relieving anxiety, but guess I don't find myself much in that situation. But there has got to be some more to it than that - come on. All who speak out for it can't be nervous wrecks.
 
Ninae said:
Yes, I can see their potential for relieving anxiety, but guess I don't find myself much in that situation. But there has got to be some more to it than that - come on. All who speak out for it can't be nervous wrecks.
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Not so much nervous wrecks, more like not feeling mentally at peace (IME at least). This is speaking as someone who still scores as highly on neuroticism tests now at age 41 as he did after a pretty severe breakdown aged 19 which kind of fucked up my peace of mind alltogether. Instant peace of mind in the form of a pill is pretty hard to resist. Sure there are other ways to get there, but they tend to require effort.
 
Ninae said:
The thing is, I have hardly touched any benzoe in my life, so my tolerance should be around zero. But they have never worked for me. I now blame the Lyrica/Gabapentin, or maybe I just lack the receptors for benzoes to bind to, as even as a naive drug user they didn't do much. It's just like taking a sleeping pill - makes you drowsy then get to sleep.
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Did anyone else try the phenazepam or any other benzos you've tried? It sounds to me as if you're not getting pure compounds; otherwise I don't see how someone without a tolerance could possibly do that much without really feeling it, or getting amnesia.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
If thats the only effect you get off them, then maybe you are naturally blessed with a calm, chilled, non-anxious mind. If you're already non anxious then i guess benzos cant make you more non-anxious.
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Most (real) benzos' would usually have the opposite effect (what she decribes) on somebody that doesnt need them. Just sounds like a weak formulation.
 
Ok now used about 18mg in 6 days .... aswell as drinking on them sometimes. BAH!

I expect that a few more days using and I'm going to get withdrawals now, but im gona need them badly for numerous stressful situations over the next week. The exact opposite of my plan of buying a few of these to use responsbily and not get addicted again seems to have happened :(

Moral: If you have anxiety issues do NOT buy large amounts of these.
 
DistyBoi said:
Ok now used about 18mg in 6 days .... aswell as drinking on them sometimes. BAH!

I expect that a few more days using and I'm going to get withdrawals now, but im gona need them badly for numerous stressful situations over the next week. The exact opposite of my plan of buying a few of these to use responsbily and not get addicted again seems to have happened :(

Moral: If you have anxiety issues do NOT buy large amounts of these.
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Yeah, definitely true. This might sound like an asinine thing to say, but if you really need something for those stressful days in the future, maybe try substituting a different drug on a few days? Codeine, kratom, or another mild opiate? I'm not recommending to hop on the opiate wagon, but if you're trying to avoid addiction to etizolam and have already abused it quite a bit up to today, maybe you can just get by with using a different drug one or two times? I do have to say that using any drug in a crutch-like fashion is likely to burn you over time, though I personally to this day use low-doses of opiates for public speaking. That's like two or three times a semester, though.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Really ? So if a chilled, calm & relaxed person was to take benzos they could become ecxitable & anxious ?
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What he probably means is it should get me more high, but that has not been my experience. But I have the crappy torquese ones. Still I hardly feel Valium.
 
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