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Benzos Etizolam

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I just wanna throw a few thoughts out there..

It saddens me to see such a powerful, addictive and potentially damaging substance (basically a benzodiazepine) become so widespread and easy to access in the RC community. It seems these 'reputable suppliers' are resorting to ever more underhanded tactics to sell their products; using addictive substances to bait people in and make them buyers for life (or at least extended periods). A lot of people trying these new products haven't the faintest clue of what lies in store should they use these things anything more than just occasionally as the sites have to circumvent the law with their 'not for human consumption' pitch and therefore omit drug-effect info. Now this being a predominantly capitalist world I see how the sale of such drugs has caught like wildfire, a race to the bottom if you will, and I see the need for suppliers to stay ahead of the curve if they wanna stay in the game, but this to me just seems like a new low.

Yes yes, I agree give the people what they want... but once addicted who's to say we as conscious beings actually want the drugs anymore? Psychological addiction is just the conscious manifestation of a chemical void which yearns to be filled, and the next fix is exactly that filler. Some view heroin dealers as depraved - they fatten their pockets to the detriment of others, ultimately not giving a fuck about the lives they may demolish in the process. Now I'm not equivocating RC vendors to heroin dealers as currently the substances in comparison are nowhere near as addictive - but the same logic applies, no? The ultimate endgame for any business is to have solid and consistent demand, and what could possibly be a better customer base than a whole load of people physically addicted to a product you so conveniently supply? At the end of the day, market morality = no morality.

I won't mention names but my whole theory perhaps my theory is given weight by the fact that quite a few trusted vendor sites are giving away etizolam pills for free alongside any order. Another parrallel to the heroin game.. sling product cheap then jack up the price when they come crawling back. This, in my opinion, is just the beginning.. I bet a substantial portion of the next-generation RCs will prove to be addictive. Tbh, I don't blame the vendors, it seems this is a natural evolution of the market. I just think it kinda sucks.

Forgive the lack of a coherent direction in this rant, I just needed to get these thoughts out there cause it kinda irks me.

Feel free to let me know if you agree/think I'm a crazy paranoid conspiracy theorist:)
 
I like to the think the point of bluelight is to be responsible for ourselves, and for each other!

What is the alternative to these substances being "easy to access"? Availability only to some in-crowd with the right contacts? Bollocks to that!
 
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HdoubleODeezy said:
^ to your #2) i know of a few manufacturers that produce the pure powder by the barrel and sell nothing smaller than a barrel full. Thousands of dollars. That's the reason it's not around much.. not a big enough profit margin with the price of etizolam being so high, even if you charge an arm and a leg for it, you won't make much.. Even more cost if you press into a pill. It's just not worth it for most companies. IMO.
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Um... going price from overseas pharmacies are the cheapest benzo or benzo alternative. 'Etilaam" tabs manufactures by 'intas' in india have a Maximum rate for which they're allowed to sell it.. don't want to get into prices, but we're talkiking one of the best deals on the net. Only problem can be turnarond time for some people. (My order was 4 days overseas.)
 
F1N3ST said:
Um... going price from overseas pharmacies are the cheapest benzo or benzo alternative. 'Etilaam" tabs manufactures by 'intas' in india have a Maximum rate for which they're allowed to sell it.. don't want to get into prices, but we're talkiking one of the best deals on the net. Only problem can be turnarond time for some people. (My order was 4 days overseas.)
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i wrote what you quoted when no one was selling eitzolam AT ALL. You couldn't find it anywhere besides by the barrel overseas, which is why i said that. Did you see how old that post was? It was in Feb. 9months ago.. lol

Also i was talking about sales of pure powder in the hundreds of grams ( not these little 1mg pills or even 1 gram baggies of shit cut to hell )
 
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I agree we're supposed to be responsible for ourselves but I think that that responsibility (in certain people) starts eroding when the mechanisms of physical addiction come into play.

And I also agree with you Knockando, the point of bluelight is to learn how to look after ourselves and others under the influence (ie. being responsible). However I have no doubt in my mind that we are just a proportionally insignificant subset of the wider populace of drug users - some of whom may unknowingly fall into the trappings of addiction because they don't know what they're getting themselves into.

The alternative I'd prefer to see is no peddling of addictive substances to the masses, although obviously that'll never be realised.
 
How are people finding the effectiveness of sublingual dosing of the crushed pills ? Its taken me a while to really get the knack of this method but i think ive finally developed a good technique. The advantage of this for me is that it bypasses the whole wait 2-3 hours after eating thing. The effects can be felt quicker too, just not sure if this method equals the 90% ish oral bio-availabilty ?

(I did a 'search thread' thingy but there was only one mention of sublibgual dosing in the context of not being recommended for the blue/blue pills)
 
I've only tried it sublingually once and that was while I was already pretty mangled on 2mg etiz and some kratom (amazing combo btw!) so I couldn't really tell the difference. Would you mind sharing your technique? I'd definitely be willing to do some more trials with this ROA, then I could get back to you on it's effectiveness:)
 
KingBlueTwista;10157706 Would you mind sharing your technique? I'd definitely be willing to do some more trials with this ROA said:
Would love to - its a bit Blue Peterish but it seems to work...

Cut up about a 2 inch square piece of non absorbent paper, fold it in half, place the pill inside the paper. Give it a few sharp thwacks with a hammer to yield a pile of crushed pill. Next lift your toungue to the roof of your mouth and angle it as far backwards towards your throat as possible. Do not let your tongue move from this position, stand infront of a mirror and pour the powder straight from the folded paper into the exposed area under your toungue between your teeth. Try and spread it around when pouring, if it all ends up in one pile spread it around a bit by gently using a finger. Then lower your tongue again and hold it down for a few seconds. Hey presto all the powder has magically & instantly been absorbed in a few seconds. If you do it right even with the blue blue pills there is no trace of the smurf tongue afterwards.
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KingBlueTwista said:
I agree we're supposed to be responsible for ourselves but I think that that responsibility (in certain people) starts eroding when the mechanisms of physical addiction come into play.

And I also agree with you Knockando, the point of bluelight is to learn how to look after ourselves and others under the influence (ie. being responsible). However I have no doubt in my mind that we are just a proportionally insignificant subset of the wider populace of drug users - some of whom may unknowingly fall into the trappings of addiction because they don't know what they're getting themselves into.

The alternative I'd prefer to see is no peddling of addictive substances to the masses, although obviously that'll never be realised.
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I think being responsible for ourselves includes doing the research of how fast physical addiction occurs, and making sure that you never get there. I have done 50+ different drugs in the last 3-4 years, many of which have been extremely addicting to most people yet I have not been addicted to a single one of them because I research everything I can about them.

However I do certainly agree that there are a high percentage of RC users that don't do the proper amount of research and end up almost killing themselves which is in a way the vendors fault because they wouldn't have received it without them but I don't think it's their responsibility. As long as vendors sell pure products, that are properly labeled, weighed and described, that should be all they have to worry about. That and if they get messages like, "hii can u sell me drugz?? how hi do they get ya? i lyke gettin raally fuked!!", ignore them; which I'm quite sure all respectable vendors do.

Your alternative is quite illogical though as any substance can become extremely mentally addicting. Methoxetamine isn't really all that physically addicting but it sure can be easy to just fall in love with the feeling, even though you don't get any physical withdrawals when you stop. I think the best alternative would be for the respectable vendors that take their business seriously to start making all of their sites a bit of a challenge to register to. Like maybe some little basic quizzes about chemicals and how they need to be properly handled. Or just an application form where you enter previous experience with compounds. Recently I had to apply for a few advanced chemicals on a site and I basically just explained how difficult some of the chemicals I've worked with are to handle and I hadn't had any problems, and also speak with proper grammar and I had no problem getting the advanced compounds. People that don't know what they're talking about won't be able to do that, and therefore shouldn't be able to receive dangerous compounds. =D
 
hey guys, I got 5 freebie Etizolam 1mg tabs when I bought some legal smoke a couple of months ago, just found them in the cupboard. Usually me an a mate sit around at mine getting pissed on a friday night but have decided to give these a whirl. Ive had a few beers, (1 pint and about 5 bottles of Miller) and I've necked 2 of these little blue pills, my mates been on the sauce for about 8 hours and hes had 1. I'll have bugger all tollerance to this type of thing seeing as its been about 10 years since my last diazepan/nitrazepan binge, man if not longer. Even as im typing this I'm starting to feel a little "funny", had them about 20 mins ago on a relatvely empty stomach. No im really starting to feel kind of groggy, but not in a bad way, quite plesant to be honest.

Im just wondering if I should lay off the booze, but I used to love drinking on nitrazepam. mmmmm, really starting to feel somethng now, quite relaxing. I'd like to smoke a bong but I dont want to taint the experiment. Not yet anyway :)

got 2 of the blue pills left, do I neck them both (will be 4 1xmg) or have 1 and give my mate the other.

This is quite a pleasent high. gonna be fucking smokin after a few more bevvies and a couple of bongs !

Any advice, ie. your a fuckin dick etc, please say as I dont fancy waking up dead in the morning...
 
Mixing benzos and alcohol is always risky. If you take another, definitely chill out on the alcohol.
 
lynx2051 said:
A trusted vendor has now started selling the dyed pills now. :(
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Thats been going on for months. According to them their new batch of dyed pills is meant to better than the last, in terms of "finish", size and dose consistency. I finished the last of the 50 dyed ones i purchased last night. IME some of them actually seemed stronger than the "proffesionally manufactured" Etilam. But i ended up taking them on weekends only as i felt i couldnt really trust the dose on a work day or night.
 
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Buying Etilaam from an online pharmacy might have a greater risk involved than buying from a domestic vendor but *snip* it can't be beat.

And you don't have to deal with this "dyed" crap.

I'm a difficult sleeper but one tablet puts me to bed quickly and I'm well rested in the morning.

Can't do this all too often ofcourse, but it's a godsend.
 
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I was so excited when I found the package with MXE and Etizolam in the mail today! :)

Now I'm on 2mg Etizolam, 175mg tramadol and a few bowls of weed.
Very nice! Very smooth... Etizolam has advanced to the top 3 on my benzo list =)
 
Anyone made any solutions with PG/PEG?

If so what concentration did you use?

In the past I've done 1mg=1ml of phenazepam but it wasn't quite potent enough. I was told that the max solubility is 1mg/1ml but sceptical about this OR if it applies to etizolam also.
 
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