Benzos Etizolam

[lynx2051]

I find if I have high dose of Etizolam I sleep like a baby, and often oversleep the next day.

Regrds

KHH

If I take 2mg while not being on any stimulant they do send me to sleep. But if I've been on a night out on 6-apb or aMT even 6mg keeps me awake with amnesia for most of the day afterwards. It's good fun stumbling about on a Sunday afternoon sometimes but I prefer to sleep. :D

Mitrazapine or Zopiclone are better but there is no nice relaxation euphoria like there is with Etizolam.

 

[Repulse]

Anyone made any solutions with PG/PEG?

If so what concentration did you use?

In the past I've done 1mg=1ml of phenazepam but it wasn't quite potent enough. I was told that the max solubility is 1mg/1ml but sceptical about this OR if it applies to etizolam also.

I made some 1mg/mL - 1.4mg/mL solutions with 1-propanol and glycerol, but none of them really seems like the best way of doing this.
It dissolved readily into 1-propanol, but I am worried about the toxicity of this solvent.

PG and PEG was not available for purchase in any local convenience stores, but those were suggested by several online users.

 

[Oldak]

HI, I'm not sure if this contravenes any rules here - I won't mention any specific vendors -I got hold of some etilaam a week ago and while they have some effect it's so subtle that it's not really what I need (I'm looking to use it for particular occasions for anxiety - I'm in the UK, so benzos are pretty much out) - I'd read about the newer all blue pellets so made sure I found someone selling them in the original blister packs with the brand names on, only this vendor seemed to be the only one in the UK doing this - this was only a week ago - I read a lot of reviews/testimonials and they seemed to have been up a while and trustworthy so I order and as I say it came through fine everything was great, except - as some have said - the etilaam ones of are fairly weak.
Today I was going to order some Pasaden ones from them, as they're supposed to be much stronger from what I've read and the vendor I used's site is now gone, disappeared in the last day or so - just my luck.
I have two questions, please:

1. is there any point in bothering trying to get the Pasaden if the Etilaam had such a minor effect on me (no euphoria, or sense of well-being, loss of inhibition,etc... all I got was slight tiredness, mild dizziness and maybe a subtle lessening of anxiety - after 2mg)?
2. after a brief search this morning there doesn't seem to be much in th way of proper etizolam anywhere - so my second question is, do you think they're starting to crack down on etizolam in the UK - the importing of pills, I mean?

I can't get the all blue ones as I tried them first a few weeks ago and I got zero results from them, absolutely nothing at all.

(I sometimes take Phenibut for anxiety too and many places seemed to have stopped selling that too, though there are still a few around - maybe that's on the way out too?)

PS - I've never taken any benzos, so my disappointing experience with the etilaam can't be ascribed to tolerance?)

 

[mydrugbuddy]

^^^^^

Its hard to be sure. Could be many things. Maybe you had weak batches. Maybe they just dont work for your particular brain chemistry.

That vendors site has gone down before but it came back the next day !

ive found the strength of even the blistered etilaams to vary a lot from box to box. This latest box ive started is sending me to sleep on 1.5 mg and making it very hard to wake up 10 hrs later. I was previously up to the stage of getting limited effects from 2 mg at night from a different batch.

I love etizolam so much I just got 10k Etilaam tabs.

I love them too ! They are perfect for my issues. A total wonder drug for me. Yes i am still in the honeymoon phase about 4 months down the line of daily use at 'therapeutic' dosage.

At risk of stating/asking the obvious, if you get through all them yourself your'e going to be looking at major dependency issues ! ? Or, are you living for now and postponing facing that until it becomes an issue ? (much like im doing myself)

 

[skyHiGuy]

I use them fairly regularly, 1-2mg almost daily in the evening.
Should I be worried? I know that when I haven't used I didn't sleep well
They are feel good esp mixed with dope or booze and definitely to help come down after stims (MPA generally for me)\After more than 2mg i feel sleepy the following day

 

[mydrugbuddy]

I use them fairly regularly, 1-2mg almost daily in the evening.
Should I be worried? I know that when I haven't used I didn't sleep well
They are feel good esp mixed with dope or booze and definitely to help come down after stims (MPA generally for me)\After more than 2mg i feel sleepy the following day

You should be aware rather than worried IMO at least. I would suggest that you read all the posts in this thread, and some of the other many benzo threads on here. Or do some wikipedia searching on benzo dependence. This will give you more idea of what may be lying ahead....

(I'm a fine one to be offering advice, seeing as im busy burying my head in the sand, despite all the good advice ive been given here & all the other knowledge ive gained here from other contributors here 8))

 

[skyHiGuy]

Thanks mydrugbuddy
Hope you get your head out of the sand...probably takes more than reading stuff
Easy mate

 

[Oldak]

^^^^^

Its hard to be sure. Could be many things. Maybe you had weak batches. Maybe they just dont work for your particular brain chemistry.

Thanks for the reply. I'm beginning to think it's maybe the latter problem, for me.
I'll get hold of some Pasaden and give that a go, as a last resort - though the weakness of etilaam's effects on me suggest they won't be much better (I read someone saying 1mg of Pasaden was like 8mg of etilaam, but that's the only review of any kind I can find on Pasaden, so not sure. I'll give it a go anyway.
Other than that, it's back to Phenibut for me - just wish that had a more pro-social effect on me and loss of inhibition, which are my main problems apart from anxiety.
One pill that gave a greater sense of well-being, euphoria, loss of anxiety, made me pro-social, and improved my empathy would be great - not too much to ask, is it? : D

Thanks again.

 

[DexterMeth]

Jesus Christ coolio..
Have enough?

 

[Mung Hunter]

Anyone made any solutions with PG/PEG?

If so what concentration did you use?

In the past I've done 1mg=1ml of phenazepam but it wasn't quite potent enough. I was told that the max solubility is 1mg/1ml but sceptical about this OR if it applies to etizolam also.

I've used PG every time and it works amazingly well. I've used it for both phenazepam and etizolam and I can guarantee that you'll get them both down to 2mg/ml. I found that with the phenazepam I had to actually heat the solution and shake it to dissolve but was fairly simple and took no longer than half an hour. The etizolam dissolved much easier though, I just had to shake the solution every 10 minutes or so for maybe an hour. Next I'm going to try 4mg/ml but I'll just make a solution of 5ml so in case it doesn't work I'll just add 5ml more. It's too bad this compound has such sticky qualities as it really makes you want to dilute everything at once instead of wasting it on all your utensils.

Jesus Christ coolio..
Have enough?

Haha quite a bit but if they're fairly stable I would say it's a good idea to stock up; never know how long they'll be available for. I'm definitely gonna order a few grams of pure powder soon to make sure I have supply for a while.

 

[lynx2051]

I've noticed a pharmaceutical company based in India, their website has shut down.

Oh, its back up now.

 

[Coolio]

Etizolam was impossible to find for quite a while, who knows how long it will be easily available for. Gotta stock up while you can.

 

[lynx2051]

Etizolam was impossible to find for quite a while, who knows how long it will be easily available for. Gotta stock up while you can.

Well at least we can buy them from UK vendors, but they're triple the price. Also the new batches aren't professionally manufactured. Most of the ones sold in the UK are good but you get the occasional broken pill in the post, some look bigger than others and you get the occasional dud one. But the ones that do work from the UK seem stronger than the manufactured ones.

 

[oSpherical]

I've noticed that these new thick, dark blue Etizolams are far more powerful than the light blue Etilaam I am used to.

I used to be able to take almost 10 Etilaams with minimal tolerance, and not feel much.
If I dare take more than 2 of these ones off the UK vendors, I usually wake up in my bed 12 hours later with no recollection of how I got there...

There's definitely a massive difference between the amount of actual Etizolam in the UK vendor's pills and the Etilaams. I recently got hold of 30 UK pills due to being in quite a rush to get hold of them, and not wanting to wait ages getting them from overseas.
Honestly, these UK ones, despite seeming pressed badly, the pills breaking easily and them staining your mouth blue; they seem extraordinarily powerful. I can barely remember the last few days, despite only taking small doses.
In the past, I've eaten Etilaam pills like candy only to be effected mildly...

It's a shame about the price though. Unfortunately a few of my favourite international vendors seem to have stopped selling it, or are down.

 

[Psilocydustbin]

I've noticed that these new thick, dark blue Etizolams are far more powerful than the light blue Etilaam I am used to.

I used to be able to take almost 10 Etilaams with minimal tolerance, and not feel much.
If I dare take more than 2 of these ones off the UK vendors, I usually wake up in my bed 12 hours later with no recollection of how I got there...

There's definitely a massive difference between the amount of actual Etizolam in the UK vendor's pills and the Etilaams. I recently got hold of 30 UK pills due to being in quite a rush to get hold of them, and not wanting to wait ages getting them from overseas.
Honestly, these UK ones, despite seeming pressed badly, the pills breaking easily and them staining your mouth blue; they seem extraordinarily powerful. I can barely remember the last few days, despite only taking small doses.
In the past, I've eaten Etilaam pills like candy only to be effected mildly...

It's a shame about the price though. Unfortunately a few of my favourite international vendors seem to have stopped selling it, or are down.

I got some of these unproffessional, dyed, badly pressed chunky uk etizolam the other day. Didn't like the look of them at all as differing heights and shades of blue etc. had bought proffessional looking, coated, uniform size ones from the same reputable vendor a few times previously.

With the previous proffessional looking ones, one would knock me straight out if sober, as never took them too regularly. 3 would knock me out if buzzing pretty hard on stims.

Tried one of these new ones last night in halves, split up by 45 mins. I had drunk half a bottle of white wine and 4 double
Jaeger red bulls. This is not a massive amount of booze for me. Stopped drinking at 9pm, took half etizolam at 10pm and other half 10.45.pm Went bed at 12am, and didn't get to sleep until about 4am. Bizarre. Bunk maybe, too low a dose, or nearly a litre of red bull keeping me awake? Normally etizolam would cut straight through it.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

I've noticed a pharmaceutical company based in India, their website has shut down.

Oh, its back up now.

Still down for me. (If we're talking about the same place.) I have had to use an alternative, more expensive source in the meantime. Someone on another forum has advised that the Indian company's site is down due to technical issues and should be back soon. Which is good news i suppose, better than the site having been forced to close down by the authorities..

I've noticed that these new thick, dark blue Etizolams are far more powerful than the light blue Etilaam I am used to.

I used to be able to take almost 10 Etilaams with minimal tolerance, and not feel much.
If I dare take more than 2 of these ones off the UK vendors, I usually wake up in my bed 12 hours later with no recollection of how I got there...

There's definitely a massive difference between the amount of actual Etizolam in the UK vendor's pills and the Etilaams. I recently got hold of 30 UK pills due to being in quite a rush to get hold of them, and not wanting to wait ages getting them from overseas.
Honestly, these UK ones, despite seeming pressed badly, the pills breaking easily and them staining your mouth blue; they seem extraordinarily powerful. I can barely remember the last few days, despite only taking small doses.
In the past, I've eaten Etilaam pills like candy only to be effected mildly...

It's a shame about the price though. Unfortunately a few of my favourite international vendors seem to have stopped selling it, or are down.

I've found that the strength of them varies a lot from box to box, pack to pack, even pill to pill, within the same pack, no matter which type you get (dyed ones or blue coated ones), or where you get them from. It does make managing the use of them difficult, in terms of trying to take a consistent daily dose, and then eventually starting a controlled taper to come off them.

Maybe one would have to fork out the extra for the expensive Depas or Pasaden to get a consistent dose. (They are a LOT more expensive).

 

[OTGee]

The badly made blue Eitzolam definatley are different on a pill to pill basis definatley. Due to tolerance shooting up so fast and each pill being weaker/stronger, ive never been very interested in them although if they wer a little cheaper and more reliable. Hands down a very nice euphoric benzo, one of the best.

 

[oSpherical]

The badly made blue Eitzolam definatley are different on a pill to pill basis definatley. Due to tolerance shooting up so fast and each pill being weaker/stronger, ive never been very interested in them although if they wer a little cheaper and more reliable. Hands down a very nice euphoric benzo, one of the best.

Yeah, I've had them twice before and they were nothing special.
However, this recent batch I got seem to put me to sleep instantly... which is something I wasn't looking for at all. They're supposed to be for anxiety, which Etilaam branded pills were perfect for; but these poorly pressed ones seem to be way more hypnotic. The second I close my eyes on them I fall asleep.

 

[Harambulus]

Guys I have been having these a cpl times recently after stims but i find that I am monged for the whole day after taking two (2mg of the uk ones)- it defeats the object for me as I want to get to sleep quickly and be refreshed (relatively speaking) the next day.

I would take one I awake at like 7am and take another which leaves me in a zombie haze all day. I hate that prob about as much of a nuisance as no sleep at all.

Zopiclone has been fav for after stims cos there is no hangover but ive only got a few from doc and dont wanna be having to go back just for that.

Will etizolam necessarily leave you like a zombie all day after? If so these are not gonna be suitable. Maybe I will try lower dosing and not redosing again early it in morning as I had done. Each time I actually didn't try getting back to sleep on my own after the 1st I just popped another pill which was probably my main error there.

I feel pretty sick of the things as I type this trying to shake off the stupification.

Another bad thing about thee shitty shitty made tiny crumbly made pills is I tried biting them before to eat just half and they just disintegrate into dust.

Half would prob be too low but I'll try just one next time and some willpower to get me off if I wake up again.

 

[Harambulus]

This is ridiculous, even after the second night I still feel these stupid effects (let it be clear I have had NO more of the stuff since the 1st dose the previous night). This is really annoying.

New years eve I just went to bed around 11.45. Nearly every second seemed to be spent in REM however I woke up nearly every hour with an urge to urinate. When I went to go it was still only a small amount. I'd drop right off to sleep again and the same thing over and over til 10.30 this morning.

It feels like all my emotions (though feeling a good dose of annoyance right now :D) have been blunted and I'm just held hostage to this stuff till it finally wears off.