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Ethylphenidate Discussion Thread

Racy heart and vasoconstriction with a clear head? This occurs with small doses? May have some MPA in the EP. I've come to quite enjoy MPA if you don't overdo it, awaiting some more of this RC. If it does have some MPA it's great in small doses every couple of hours and would make a good combo IMO. This is just a guess based on what people have described I think the key is not to overdo it no matter what you may or maynot have.
 
Yeah as you saw it is water soluble. I never drank it but I assume it would be very similar to oral administration as the solid, which a couple of people have recommended in this thread. Perhaps in water it may come on slightly quicker due to increased surface area.
 
Hey peeps.

Ive got through 500mg of this in 24 hours and stopped using 10 hours ago, I ONLY took that much because I knew I had benzos for any subsequent anxiety or hypertensive issues etc. Without them I'd probs be so paranoid and anxious on the comdown i'd have given myself a panick attack induced hypertensive crisis or something stupid. So far I've only needed 2mg etiz though and I'm feeling fine.

However, someone I know from online who has got through 5gs of this in 50 hours! He was vaping it. He says hes been co-administering with benzos as he's been going it to calm the nerves, heart and overstimulation. Ive tried to warn him that benzos are not an anti-dote to take while you are using stims, they are for after they have worn off or incase of breif overstimulation or medical emergency, but in terms of how hes managed to get through that much that quick is beyond me. I was struggling with too much stimulation doing 700mg in a day a month or so ago, and benzos were essential.

Is that dosage even possible? Its like 100x a daily prescribed dose (8 Ive warned him if he runs out of benzos hes probably going to die with that much ethyl left in his system without the benzos helping to counter excess adrenalin, vasoconstriction and psychological side effects.

5000mg over two days would take ~40 hours to get down to normal levels assuming half life of about 4 hours, rite?

Surely hes reaching LD50 levels?
 
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^ It's not as potent as it's methyl homologue, and I can say from experience that depending on how he is vaping it, the process can be wasteful but it is very more-ish. I went through a few G like that in a similar fashion and the results were not good, not at all; both mentally and physically.
 
drug_mentor said:
^ I think he was asking if ethylphenidate is as good for study as methylphenidate.
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Its really is. Theres been three occasions this week when Ive sort of forgotten I've been taking a 30mg bump each day when I get in from uni and I thought why is my room clear, all my deadlines written up and all my assignments handed in already? 30mg snorted gives me 2 hours of lucid concentration / motivation to get on and do stuff. Definately the ethyl, im jusually a lazy cunt.
 
It is very moreish, but ive yet to crave it the next day after Ive had the willpower to stop.

Good glad u tried a g, makes me feel a bit better about myself If I end up giving in and doing the rest of this 500mg in a bit lol.

What were the side effects? Ive found 3-4mg etiz cures just about any overstimulation issues (headache, paranoia, heart rate, BP, paliptations, tight muslces) within about 30 mins of dropping them.
 
Like ritalin ethylphenidate just doesn't sit well with me at all (when used recreationally at higher doses) My instincts tell me it's far more dangerous than meth/amphetamines and coke, feels like it's harder on the heart, body and mind.

Taking high doses of this stuff is possibly very dangerous. Keep in mind you might have a heart condition you don't know about. Please remember that this stuff hasn't been studied to death like ritalin.

Glad people are having a good time, just remember to go easy :)
 
Mr Blonde said:
Yeah as you saw it is water soluble. I never drank it but I assume it would be very similar to oral administration as the solid, which a couple of people have recommended in this thread. Perhaps in water it may come on slightly quicker due to increased surface area.
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Thanks. This helps a lot :). I will give it a go soon and if I'm up to it I will also write up a trip report.
 
Christ! said:
My instincts tell me it's far more dangerous than meth/amphetamines and coke
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Then why is its extremely similar in effects chemical cousin (Ritalin) widely prescribed in clinical dosages worldwide whereas meth and coke aren't?

Must be some reason why that choice has been made in the past.
 
DistyBoi said:
Then why is its extremely similar in effects chemical cousin (Ritalin) widely prescribed in clinical dosages worldwide whereas meth and coke aren't?

Must be some reason why that choice has been made in the past.
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Coke doesn't last long enough, meth lasts too long?

You make a good point though. Probably something to to do with the stigma against those two drugs, and the abuse potential also....I could abuse coke and meth for days whereas the thought of doing that with ritalin makes me feel a little sick.

Meth (as desoxyn) is available on prescription in the US.

Instinct isn't really the best thing to go off when choosing what drugs to use at what dosages anyway. Maybe it's just my sensitivity to the negative norepinephrine-related effects I seem to get with ritalin and it's friends. Feels like such dirty stimulation to me, compared to the amphetamine class which make me relaxed and feel 'right'.

I guess all stimulants are potentially very dangerous if you have a heart condition ;) (even at therapeutic doses)

My craving for stimulants has risen massively since coming off opiates. I've got probably 5 grams of ethyl sitting here and I'll likely end up still have it in 3 years...or I'll end up flushing it.

Wouldn't mind trying dexmethylphenidate, have heard it has less of the physical stimulation related side effects. Lisdexamfetamine also interests me as something that's a bit smoother than dex and not quite as euphoric. Would be surprised if we don't have these meds approved here in the next few years.

Funny story - I looked into getting some extended release dexamphetamine made up by a compounding pharmacy. The lady did some research for me and said it's much more effective made up with pure dexamphetamine powder rather than the crushed up 5mg tablets...and proceeded to quote me on a 10KG tub of dexamphetamine! She said since not many people use it, that I'd have to pay for the raw ingredient and the smallest amount they could get was 10kg tubs :) lol It was a few thousand if I remember correctly, said they'd go halves with me and I'd need a private script.... unfortunately didn't have the money available to try out something that might not even work well. Can report that slow release tablets made from crushed up standard release tablets don't work well at all...I needed like 3x the dose.

Don't know why Dexedrine Spansule's aren't available here...even if not covered by the PBS, surely they'd still be useful.

Sigh...had a small toke on the pipe from a mate. Sorry for the overly wordy post.
 
I've just started sampling this substance. Its quite a nice buzz... lower doses such as 10mg snorted are good for performing tasks, higher doses around 20-40 are quite euphoric.. not as much as coke or MDMA but still a clean high with a good headspace.. really talkative. I ended up taking around 120mg over 2-3 hours along after consuming around 150mg of MXE a few hours before hand, i was getting weird peripheral vision visuals... objects would flutter and move around quite a bit.. pretty odd because ive never had peripheral vision distortions like these even when on high doses of MXE and psychedelics such as 2cb, 2ce and LSD.

Also, my nose is destroyed after just two days of usage.. dry and really crusty (mind you, it was suffering from 3 weeks of MXE abuse prior but not this bad) not even 2ce which burns a hell of a lot more did this much damage.
 
After tonnes of reading I am unable to find out if this is legal to import. Don't really wan to risk it if it isn't. Does anybody know? Would one be able to contact the TGA and ask them or would that be a very dumb move?
 
I split a 100mg sample bag Ethylphenidate with two others on the weekend (so about 30mg each). Insufflated, stung on the way down. The consensus was definitely stimulating, quite a bit of increased sociability and euphoria. Was better than the bag of bronson we snorted that night in my opinion (which was better quality than usual). I've had ritalin crushed and snorted a few times at clubs before, but didn't feel much other than stim.

Based on this experience, I will be getting some more to try.
 
People, please don't insufflate this stuff.
I did it for 3 days because i was like "ah i can take a litle burning sensation, no problem", but hell have i been wrong.
On the 3rd day i completely lost my ability to smell and my nose felt like a desert with a few oases of blood.
I stoped insufflating and started rinsing my nose on a daily basis, and fortunately my smelling-sense came back. Theres still blood when i rinse my nose though, more than a week after stopping.
Do yourself a favor and go for oral, rectal or sublingual administration.
 
itglowsblue said:
People, please don't insufflate this stuff.
I did it for 3 days because i was like "ah i can take a litle burning sensation, no problem", but hell have i been wrong.
On the 3rd day i completely lost my ability to smell and my nose felt like a desert with a few oases of blood.
I stoped insufflating and started rinsing my nose on a daily basis, and fortunately my smelling-sense came back. Theres still blood when i rinse my nose though, more than a week after stopping.
Do yourself a favor and go for oral, rectal or sublingual administration.
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Wow this sounds familiar.

Sublingual is just as irritating IME.


Even repeated oral doses lead to stomach cramps and digestive upset.
 
I agree with the apparent increase in sociability, mild euphoria. In general, 250mg has been insufflated. 4mmc was painful, this is 6/10 for discomfort I'd say. No adverse anxiety/loss of self control effects have been noted thus far. Not controlled in UK. Illegal in America I believe. Corrosive on the membranes over only a few days. Over the course of month, & 3 grams now being 0 a desire to replenish supply is quite strong & my next intention. Like this. Never experienced coke. Can't compare. Is a stimulant for sure. (even sociability in forums is markedly increased, apparently)
 
It seems to be good for sociability and a huge euphoric potential writing while on a small (if not noticibly effective) dose. Will post report soon and link it here.
 
JSPete said:
Wow this sounds familiar.

Sublingual is just as irritating IME.
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Agreed. I don't know why I thought sublingual would stop the corrosive effects but when I tried doing it I ended up burning the skin under my tongue. It was raw for a few days.
 
Male, 160lbs, experienced with sims, on a full stomach, 25 mg in 2 doses. on the thongue also.. A boost and some brief euphoria was felt in the first hour, then all i had left for 20hrs was jitters,chest pain, bad vasoconstriction, anxiety, paranoia, It felt really bad... I mean... Take america's dumbest cook, give him the crapiest meth synthesis that's full of errors from the internet and he'll probably manage to produce something less harsh then this...
I wanted to know, since its also some kind of toxic metabolite produced by the body in microgram quantities when mixing ritalin and booze, is it too toxic to the body to take it as a rc in doses like i took?
 
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