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EADD Changa thread

The breathing thing does sound familiar, PTCH. The moving about but not remembering how or why and stuff too. I once thought it wise to take a big bong rip of 60X Salvia back when I thought it was still worth experimenting with... not a mistake I'll be making again. Blacked out more or less instantly and came round some time later having stripped naked, negotiated several objects that usually tripped me over sober, and started to come around convinced I was some kinda "spinning creature" that lived in the walls of a labyrinth and spun. As the world started to become more focussed I found meself pressed against the wall in the hallway, spinning round and round towards the door and finally got enough of a grip on meself to stop just as I was opening the front door. Fuck knows how I'd explain to the neighbours why I was nekkid in the middle of the night and locked out of me flat 8(

Not quite the same thing but at least another reason for the pile as to why nobody should ever try smoking high-potency Salvia extracts :D

As with you though, none of this was scary as such - just freaky and unpleasant. I sat quietly for quite some time afterwards.

junglejuice said:
Fuuuuuuck YOU!

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=D
 
Yeah man, definitely just a case of pushing it a tad too far!

I'd be up for trying it again but I doubt it'll be any time soon!
Tbh my best trip was from the first changa I ever tried, was on 3 avatars and a shiva and had snorted a load of k so the hit of changa just catapulted me into a different planet! Definitely wouldn't attempt that in front of people lol, was a solo journey to see how far I could push things, luckily it was fine, but my bad trip I was stone sober so maybe that plays a part? Things might be nicer with a few drinks in ya?
 
I definitely just got too good a hit of it. Realised that my problem other times had been burning it too much, like keeping a flame to it when it was already burning of it's own accord. Didn't do that this time & bong hit #2 was obv. just a bit too far lol.

Edit - Aye, just how badly do changa & MD go? (mine has apparently got extracted MAOis infused into the leaf, it's not just the MAOi naturally in the leaf). Coz I'd probably fancy getting on this tomorrow night (but at much lower doses than today! Like, not actually intending to hit hyperspace) after Sub Club because I've got 2 grams of changa here that aren't mine. My mates are gonna want to do it (I've had this 2g here for them since before xmas!) but I'll definitely be taking eckies earlier in the night.
 
Not too sure but I know I ain't combined it before, only once had a hit of freebase whilst coming up, proper added an edge of weirdness! Tbh my fave combos for dmt seem to revolve around acid ket 2cb and speed, those four substances compliment dmt well =D
 
I've done freebase while on pills. Not while at the height of a dunt, but on the tail-end of it (having gubbed more pills but them not really doing too much) & it was great (only slight visuals though, which after today makes me realise that I probably hardly got a hit at all). Took the edge off the comedown & made me feel like a champion lol. I was marching about my mate's flat like "YAAAAS!" =D

Edit - I'm starting to consider going for the rest of that bong. Gonna leave it till I've had some dinner though.

Edit again- Fuck me, there's still tons in there! Like, way more than half of it.
 
parttime crackhead said:
I've done freebase while on pills. Not while at the height of a dunt, but on the tail-end of it (having gubbed more pills but them not really doing too much) & it was great (only slight visuals though, which after today makes me realise that I probably hardly got a hit at all). Took the edge of the comedown & made me feel like a champion lol. I was marching about my mate's flat like "YAAAAS!" =D
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Hahahaha! That must of boosted the serotonin to fuck! All this talk is making me want some! :p
 
Personally I'd be uberwary of combining MAOi-based Changa with MDMA - especially with the extracted MAOi in there as well. Forgot about that when I mentioned the MD :o

Although... MAOi-based Changa should be lasting quite a bit longer than a standard DMT trip - nearer to an hour than the usual 10mins or so. If it's not lasting noticably longer than freebase then maybe there's not enough MAOi in there to make much difference? Then again, if you think you've been overheating it on previous attempts...

Basically, I'd say the jury is still out as mentioned previously in this thread. I definitely wouldn't fancy guinea-pigging it though :|

Incidentally, I've smoked freebase DMT whilst outrageously drunk on a whim and there definitely wasn't a hint of the usual collywobbles I get. The actual trip was pretty muted too though. Was very geometric but not very colourful and no depth whatsoever. Quite intriguing though. Had these very vivid geometric patterns hovering in front of me that flashed and changed on the beat of the music. Was really very pretty and pleasant. Much less intense visually than DMT has been in the past though but the sync-ing to a beat was great.
 
Aye, I'll just leave it if I've been taking pills & tell my mates the same just to be on the safe side. They might stay off the eckies so they can do it later, I won't lol.

I have no idea how long that lasted. It was definitely more than 10 minutes though. I'd say at least half an hour until I was able to post on here & I was still tripping a fair bit at that point.
 
Just remembered having a thought of "Maybe this is permanent, maybe I've ODed & fucked myself forever" because I was sure it should have wore off by that point haha. Starting thinking I was going to have to learn to live with everything being trippy as fuck all the time. I'm a fanny. Even just the "I WANT IT TO STOP" feels so ridiculous now, it's not like it was going on for fucking ages lol.
 
Hahahaha! I know the feeling well! I thought I had lost it too when I had that big hit, wasn't too happy thinking I'm gunna be tripping for the rest of my life!
 
Now that I'm looking back on it, I reckon if I was to do it again I'd be absolutely fine. I'd lose the nut, have no idea who or what I was, no idea what was going on, then when I came back to reality I'd be able to enjoy the heavy tripping because now I know it'll go away pretty quickly. It was really just the "oh no, this is going to go on for ages" feeling that was bad.

I remember taking "acid" one night (I highly doubt it was acid, in fact I'm sure it wasn't) & I was still tripping a bit nearly a day later. My mate had to walk me up the road because I was too para to go out in public on my own lol. I thought I'd hit a permo then but it was fine once I managed to sleep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0eJIW4gPI

"Awright Craig?" =D
 
parttime crackhead said:
I have no idea how long that lasted. It was definitely more than 10 minutes though. I'd say at least half an hour until I was able to post on here & I was still tripping a fair bit at that point.
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Definitely some MAOi action afoot there then. Best skip the pills or save for some other time. MAOi + MDMA = leave to someone with absolutely no sense of self-preservation to try first ;)

Also, "I'm on a permo" =D
 
SamhainGrim said:
Oral DMT is something different entirely, though I've only had the pleasure of doing it once. Now that's a serious DMT experience. And for all the hippy crew, I regret to tell you that I stirred it into a pint of Coca-Cola after taking some moclobemide beforehand. Fuck the vile tasting brews and so on - I don't live in the jungle and I don't have worms. I still chucked up though. Anyone who's serious about seeing DMT's true potential is missing a trick by blazing it exclusively.

Ain't that right, Ismene? :)
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Preach on brother! I think oral DMT is the pinacle of psychedelic experiences. There's just something overwhelming about it, it's as if your brain has finally found what it's been looking for all it's life.

I'd also throw in the "ingest 8 drops of essence of lemon oil" to help with the nausea.
 
With the magic essence of lemon oil you would have been happily strolling around the house nausea-free..

Did you reach the stage of getting the body-high? I think the greatest body-high bar none is oral DMT after you've thrown your guts up.
 
Yep, I got the body high. Indescribably euphoric - really like nothing else. Puts crack and fentanyl in the shade and lasts so much longer (not that time was a concern).

And yeah, it came on right after I'd stopped worrying that I was going to vomit my spleen up.
 
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