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EADD Changa thread

It's maybe important to reiterate that the jury's still very much out on whether the MAOI dose in the caapi-infused 'changa' is significant enough to affect the experience.

From my own dabbling I'd say it does, purely in terms of extending duration if nothing else. Though whether that was placebo or not is up for debate.
 
Changas just DMT on plant not anything weird or complex.

Anyone who is aware of JWH and Spice blends, etc will understand roughly how it works. It's better in a few ways depending on the situation, for a start you can have an MAOI plant so the DMT is more potent - although I've never tried this. Or, if your out and about it's a lot easier to smoke rather than having to rely on a crack pipe. Some will argue that it isn't a big enough reason but it can be a lot better for people blasting off for the first time. It's also a lot easier to work with than DMT.

Not sure if other forum links can be mentioned, but a very popular DMT forum has a dedicated section (literally google DMT Changa) about this for those who are interested in finding out how to do it and the benefits.

Edit: Just realized Munroe put this all in a much simpler way. :)
 
The materials for extracting DMT cost effectively nothing, the price is basically the dealer putting a value on their blood sweat and tears. £30 wouldn't be enough for me to part with a gram of 1:1 changa to a stranger, but you never know. Sketchy cunts are best avoided though.
 
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Apart from the mimosa vadar. That's eye-wateringly expensive these days I find. Especially if you havn't got the knack of getting very high yields.

And if you're using fresh naptha every time rather than reusing it (makes the DMT go yellow I always find) that starts costing a fair few fucking quid too.
 
Thought I'd resurrect this as after finally getting my hands on some DMT a few weeks ago I've went looking for more but can go for changa instead if I want.

I can get freebase at £70/g or 1:1 changa at £40/g (from the same person, so the same quality of DMT). Trying to decide what to go for (the tenner price difference in the overall gram of DMT doesn't matter to me at all).

I'd be smoking it elsewhere, with other people, again so the changa would be far easier to smoke & wouldn't invoke the same reactions from the more drug-naive folk who were a bit sketched out at the smoking device for the pure DMT that I had previously lol. Smoking what I'm guessing will just look like shite fake weed in a bong doesn't look as bad as smoking powder in a weird crack pipe like creation. It's also a bit more natural for folk, so less chance of a few wasted hits like the last time.

What do people who've done a fair bit of both prefer? Am I only really likely to be able to hit full on hyperspace with the straight DMT or will it be easy enough to do with a big enough hit of changa?

Also, straight up DMT is over very quickly. What do you all reckon to the claims that changa lasts far longer? As far as I can tell this changa is made properly, using extracts of MAOI's (or whatever the fuck else it is they put in it, if you're reply is any use you'll know what I mean lol) & not only DMT infused on to leaves.
 
send me some please. I can't be arsed to figure this shiznitz all out for myself. I am lazy
 
Yeah so i've got a new project .

I have to stay off my feet for about 3 weeks cos i have an operation on my toe. So i'm trying to make this stuff. I know nowt really but i'm well up 4 it .
 
Did I say £70/g Marmz? Sorry, I meant £170/g. I'll hook you up if you pay me in advance by bank transfer ;)

Brimz - I wouldn't have the first clue about making it. It's the fucking business though. One of the best drugs I've tried. If you can be arsed & can get the stuff together to do it then go for it. Should work out pretty cheap by the sounds of things. I'd rather take the lazy option & just buy it off this cunt who has already made it =D
 
I'm doing it mate . Getting all the kit this week . I could buy it quite easy but cos i'm incapacitated i need a project to stop me going stir crazy.
 
Right, I've got a little bit of this shit left. I've still never managed to get a full-on breakthrough on it. Any tips for doing it would be greatly appreciated. I'd like to see what it can really do before I run out.

The stuff I've got is apparently 1:1 changa infused with some MAOi type shit on some mad black crumbly leaves. I've been smoking it in this bong, as it's the only pipe/bong type thing I own. I've already been told not to use water, but tbh I didn't notice any difference in effects when I did have water in it.

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Help me Bluelight. I want a proper fucking dunt!
 
I've also the possibility to try some Changa infused with MAOi's (harmala), but since i don't know if i've to diet before using it or not, it's still untouched...

Some people say it's ok just to smoke it without restrictions while on the other hand i read reports of people getting bad headaches etc. when doing this!

Any ideas?
 
IMO DMT is a sacred spice to be given never bought or sold . Its pretty easy to make the best resource is a web site, DMT Nexus, re weighing the amount to use ,@Sam, its vital that you do this as the spice is soooo strong and eyeballing 50mg is very hard to do.
Changa has already been explained i have only smoked the powder and still have about 1/2a g left over from a mate who sent me over some last year. It is the most amazing thing in the world for hallucinations - just remember to close your eyes and in your in the land of multicolouired fractals the breakthro dose varies form person to person and how pure it is but is normally between 30-50mg and that normally means 2-3 big tokes - you MUST hold the smoke in for at least 20seconds.
Deffo try that website it will answer any questions you may have.
 
Can someone help me out here? Anyone? Save the hippy nonsense, just tell me how to get a proper dunt. I've read through the changa section on DMT Nexus, it was no help at all. Basically all the instruction I can get from there is "Smoke it in a bong, don't quite touch it with the flame" not even as much detail as "hold it for 20 seconds". I've been smoking it in a bong, I can't get past the mad trippiness & nice feeling dunt but still quite clearly sitting my room watching fractals on the walls stage.

Also I don't know if folk on there just describe things differently from me or if they really are pussies dunt-wise but folk are saying things like:

i find it tends to be easier to glean insights off the molecule as things are a bit more slowed down (if less visual, but i for this work i like to get to the realm of mildish OEV).
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First point "Glean insights off the molecule". Calm down. I just want a fucking dunt. I don't want the meaning of life or whatever. Second "i like to get to the realm of mildish OEV". Eh, what? I want fucking extreme, don't know (or care) if my eyes are open or not visuals. I get pretty strong OEVs from it anyway but don't consider this to be anywhere near what it's fully capable of.
 
parttime crackhead said:
Can someone help me out here? Anyone? Save the hippy nonsense, just tell me how to get a proper dunt. I've read through the changa section on DMT Nexus, it was no help at all. Basically all the instruction I can get from there is "Smoke it in a bong, don't quite touch it with the flame" not even as much detail as "hold it for 20 seconds". I've been smoking it in a bong, I can't get past the mad trippiness & nice feeling dunt but still quite clearly sitting my room watching fractals on the walls stage.

Also I don't know if folk on there just describe things differently from me or if they really are pussies dunt-wise but folk are saying things like:



First point "Glean insights off the molecule". Calm down. I just want a fucking dunt. I don't want the meaning of life or whatever. Second "i like to get to the realm of mildish OEV". Eh, what? I want fucking extreme, don't know (or care) if my eyes are open or not visuals. I get pretty strong OEVs from it anyway but don't consider this to be anywhere near what it's fully capable of.
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Thats what put me off trying to make my own tbh.
Way too much Hippy bash comes with that stuff for me to deal with.

Why can't people just give it to you in simple facts, you buy the ticket you take the ride, simple as that imo.
 
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