Dope addicts: Does weed make you feel weird about your dope use/addiction?

[chrisinabox]

^agreed

 

[KS78]

"A heroin addict has one thing on his mind, his next fix."
This happens when u don't have any Heroin left, never happened when I had dope.
The weed thing happans to me too, it definetely makes me feel weird, guilty and it ruins that comfortable numbness.

 

[bingey]

guys please try to stay on-topic , reread laceys post to get a good idea what this thread is about (no not if weed helps with withdrawal or which one is less harmfull heroin or weed , this thread is about "shooters" block , does getting stoned make it hard for you to use normally?

 

[Khadijah]

Hey binge boy thanks for the clearin up post. Shooters block lol. wat a good way to word it. Anyways I been clean for almost two days now and I am gonna get high as shit tomorrow If I can and I aint gonna have no damn shooters block I can tell yall that much :D

 

[ih8beez]

Im a long term IV opiate addict and weed is my no.2 DOC. When I smoke weed right after shooting, its great. When I smoke weed when Im not high but not yet in withdrawals, I start thinking about how disgusting it is to put needles in my arm to get high and start feeling remorseful/regretful. If I smoke right before I shoot, I don't get those remorseful feelings.

 

[chrisinabox]

i tend not to smoke cannabis when high on heroin, i feel it might ruin my nod or something so i never do it. before i started heroin in the past, i smoked weed everyday and then gradually started doing heroin more and more until heroin was the only drug i did. IMO heroin/opioids make the person selfish when it comes to what u wanna get high on. like before i started doing opies alot, i would try lots of new things and do various drugs, not just teh same thing all the time and after i started doing heroin all the time, i didn't even smoke weed or do anything else, maybe benzos. even now that i'm 6 months clean off heroin, i can't bring myself to do other drugs besides cannabis,benzos, or opiates. i want to do other stuff recreationally and have fun for once. i get worried i will have bad effects or a bad trip or something. i want to do stuff like mdma, psilocybin, lsd, dexedrine, etc.. but worry bout whats gonna happen. like i couldnt do a stimulant unless i knew i had some kinda downer for after and usually when i do a stim now, i immediately regret it and pop a downer. idk i might be weird when it comes to this but alot of my friends that used to do heroin or still do it, they only want one thing, opiates, if not that, then weed or benzos only. there are some ppl i know that will do other stuff but not many. maybe it just depends how into opiates you got. sorry for the rant.

 

[Morbid Koala]

I find that I am very critical of any sort of 'upper' use. I did a gram of coke for the first time in almost ten years and once I got high (later on weed), I couldn't believe myself. It was sobering, frankly.

Weed has generally led me on the right path; relationships, business decisions, doing the right thing in general. It almost acts as a warning indicator sometimes.

Then again, I'm very hard on myself about everything. I smoked a cigarette the other day as a consequence of my new usage of Adderall and I felt horrible about it later. I haven't smoked a cigarette in a year and haven't been a regular smoker since 1998 but I was freaked out by that behavior.

 

[chrisinabox]

^ya i know what u mean, now that i'm clean i over-analyze everything like i wanna get high occasionally and have fun but i think too much and worry all the time about whats gonna happen, if im gonna have a panic attack, etc...and by the time i actually do do something, i psych myself out and have a bad time. idk what caused this but i didn't used to be this bad. the main drugs i worry bout doing but really want to do is psychedelics/dissociatives, i wanna do mdma/lsd/psilocybin/ket all the time but worry about having a bad trip and shit and i think if i did do them i def would have a bad trip b/c i think too much.

 

[claire22]

You've got to be kidding me. Heroin is not physically addictive? You've obviously never caught an addiction to heroin. In fact, I don't even believe you know any current smack addicts. If you did you would know the physical symptoms of heroin withdrawals. A heroin addict will always be more mentally unstable than any pot head.

Maybe there's just something wrong with your dad but every pot head or ex-pot head is in alot better shape than any heroin addict on his best day.

i meant its not DAMAGING in the long term.. i mean u wudnt get any diseases or nethin from it(except if u share needles) but other drugs say amphetamines/meth/mdma fuck your body up,my kidneys are absolutely screwed up from yrs of use.. of course H its physically addictive im not that fuken stupid. its one of the most physically addictive! clearly u didnt read my post right! i no a shitload of smack addicts, and many of them want to get off it but the w/ds are to bad, read my post right b4 u start attackin me yeah?
no my dad had schizophrenia, weed made him more susceptible to it. and no he killed himself, would u call that "in better shape than any heroin addict on his best day"??? didnt think so. mr "i criticize ppls posts without even readin them properly" that shud b a nice shock 2 u.

 

[Tearit14]

When i smoke weed, i feel that my doping is a weird thing to do. Weed always makes me thing straight, (Ironic?) haha

 

[Khadijah]

Ugh I got probation on monday and i cant do weed OR dope and its fucken with me hardcore! Ima drink and take some of my newly prescribed seroquel (WTF? Seroquel? I aint got no bipolar!!) But it puts me to sleep and i am stuck in a snow storm so thats wat its gonna be for a few days, looks like. weed still definately gets the 'u shouldnt b doin this' gears turnin in my head tho, for sure.

 

[rk7p5]

Sometimes weed makes me think i shouldn't be doing dope and should stick to weed exclusively. It seems so much less harmful then dope, i just hate the anxiety it gives me.

 

[Ungoliath]

2. When I smoke weed and am gonna do dope ( I am a IV user) it is actually HARD to do my dope sometimes. Of course if Im sick its different but say I have been getting high all day on dope and then its time for another shot becuz I want to get a little higher. Well I get that shot made up and then its like almost hard to put it in my arm. Of course I do it but when Im sober and do a shot its like 1 2 3. when i am blazed, i actually start gettin all deep on it even without wanting to. like "Wat the fuck is wrong with me?? Im stickin NEEDLES IN MY ARM! This shit aint normal!"

WOW, I am NOT alone.

I've asked friends who also shoot this question and there just like "nah man the buds just callin' for me to shoot it faster to meet his buddy so they can party together in my veins"

But If I get really stoned, or just have some very heady hydro, Ill have all my gear up, getting the shot ready, pinging the syringe for bubbles, get my arm tied up......

Then look at the needle

And get very depressed.......

And think about my family and my life (My dad used to shoot up at the super table infront of us...)

Its like my inner child is crying because I became everything I never wanted to be.




Sigh.


Now I can only smoke dope after shooting dope (lol) so I avoid that horrible feeling like a failure, im surprised how many people also feel this way..

I can only wonder if I woulda shot up that first time had I been high on dope, instead of just sick as shit from sniffin.

 

[The Is]

holy shit its almost like weed does cpr on you guys consciences.. weed is spinach and jimny cricket is popeye

 

[KStoner6tb]

when you smoke weed, and then use the opiate you are addicted to, does it make you re consider it, have second thoughts, feel guilty, or uncomfortable about your use?

no.

 

[soundsystem00]

Pot makes me second guess everything. Why am I doing this and that in my life. It's a part of the paranoid aspect imo. I've always been somewhat of a self-conscious kind of person to an extent, and pot makes it more so. It depends on the pot but it always does that to me for the most part. I had a friend that was on heroin heavily and he didn't want to smoke weed either.

 

[Cone]

I believe the reason for this moral dilemma is because when you smoke first, it puts you in the mindset of being 'stoned'. Being stoned was likely the first drug you tried, and since you've obviously moved on to other drugs that means you liked getting high in the first place.

When you started smoking pot, you thought to yourself "damn man, this shit is AWESOME i'll never try other drugs evar this shit is strong enough mang (monging out and falling asleep ensues...)" Now that you're into other things, it brings back those feelings of when pot was "enough" and now is just a precursor to bigger and better highs.

This would definitely make me feel a little depressed and frustrated with myself. What happened to just getting stoned and monging out? Now I have to stick my needle in my arm like I saw in all those anti-drug commercials to get the same effect... what kind of monster have I become? etc. etc.

Then theres the people who don't give a fuck.

 

[brutus]

When I was strung out on opiates, I always smoked weed daily. I would get high, then smoke and continue to smoke throughout the day. Opiates and weed are like Oreos and milk, they are just meant to go together.

 

[chrisinabox]

^i wish i could do that. i get very critical of doing other drugs while on opiates cause i'm worried i will ruin the high.

 

[Survived Abortion]

Marijuana makes everything bad...

It's all because weed (or any cannabis) fucks your head up...

It really does turn people paranoid schizophrenics, people who may never have lapsed into that state of permanent psychosis. I have been inside the nut ward three times now (not for drugs, but for suicidal depression predating drug use). I have met a fair few people there who swear that their schizophrenia was caused by cannabis. Other schizophrenecs won't admit this, and still hanker for it, try to get visitors to sneak it in etc. And then they get more schizo.

I remember when I was a teenager, and I started having panic attacks, and it was after I had been smoking cannabis for a year or two. My first few serious panic attacks happened when I was not stoned, when I had decided to jack it in because I would always green out and panic on the stuff. I took my two little sisters to the cinema to watch Tarzan, and I had to run out of there because I thought I was going to die. Went to the hospital etc. Anyways...

A few days later, I was with this guy I always used to smoke with, and he offered me a toke on his spliff as a friendly gesture, as we had fallen out. I did, and then felt like a complete asshole. After this, I couldn't eat for days, had paralyzing attacks of depressive anxiety - where it seemed as if my soul had been hollowed out and all there was around me was pure evil. People looking at me, they couldn't comprehend. I stood there in my girlfriend's arms crying not knowing what the hell was happening to my mind, knowing I had taken a turn down a one-way road leading to all things shit. Struggling for a day to grab my breath I lay on her bed like a frightened animal, until my sanity resurfaced, and swore that I would never in my life smoke that devil's shit again.

That hollow depression that Ungoliath describes, and the paralyzing mega-rush of negative thoughts Lacey K describes is exactly what weed does. It searches out every possible dark, negative energy from the quantum possibilities of your mind, from the deepest recesses of your psyche, and shoves it all in your face so fast and confusing that many people struggle to keep on top of it and retrace the neural pathways.

Opiates and Benzos have much in common thrapeutically, in this regard; this is why you feel you must take the dope first then the weed, because dope (and benzos) put a very strong forcefield against much of this negative shit, and enable you to keep on top of it and explore the psychoactive and psychedelic space going on. The other way round, and that evilness makes you second-guess everything - regardless of how you are living your life.

Long live benzos and opiates!