DMT Extraction (Archived Scraps)

[FungalFractoids]

Acacia Obustifolia- high tryptamine content, mainly DMT, also some other less actives? cant remember, MGS do you have any links to acacia tryptamine content sites?

Obtusifolia is good but phlebophylla is the mother-godess

 

[Jefftildeath]

Perhaps it could be every color.

That's exactly how I was gonna reply.

 

[swilow]

Obtusifolia is good but phlebophylla is the mother-godess

Links? Im habing trouble locating my alkaloidal analysis lists, would like to extract proper 5-meo-DMT to experience it unadultereated. I'm not sure theres many acacias that are bpredominantly 5-Meo but yeah....

 

[FungalFractoids]

Nah, phleb is all n,n DMT, sorry didn't realise you were actually after 5meo containing acacia.

 

[elfdancer]

DMT Extraction - Merged Scraps

Hey DMT-heads,

The classic teks for Mimosa Hostilis root bark (QT, marsofold, etc) call for a long cook of the powdered bark in an acidified solution (vinegar + water giving a pH of 4) before basification.

Newer teks such as Vortex seem to skip the acid extraction entirely.

It seems to be agreed that a basification pH of 13.4-13.5 does considerably better for the yield than marsofold's target pH of 10. But what of the polar extraction step? The authors claim much higher yields, but I can't find forum posts from other individuals who have tried more than one and given side-by-side comparisons.

So what's the final word? Does polar extraction improve or harm yield?

 

[max_freakout]

I heard marsofold say on another forum that the way to optimise yield was by starting with the acid polar extraction, ive never tried it myself without this step but i'm very happy with the yields i get doing it this way

 

[IGNVS]

if you dont you end up with alot of yellow oils

 

[max_freakout]

I've never had a more hellish experience in my lungs than smoking that yellow shit, it is so ridiculously harsh

 

[IGNVS]

I KNOWW!! its the worst!
does ammonia clean it up? will another round in the freezer do? or do you just need to defat from the beginning?

 

[max_freakout]

I KNOWW!! its the worst!
does ammonia clean it up? will another round in the freezer do? or do you just need to defat from the beginning?

People say that ammonia cleans it up, i tried an ammonia wash once and it didnt seem to have any effect whatsoever, i also had similar (lack of) results using CaCO3 wash on the naptha solution,

the most effective way i have found of cleaning up yellow spice is to put it into a sloution of vinegar/water to re-polarize it, then re-basifying and doing the naptha pulls as usual, the yellownes then seems to form a scummy precipitate on the top of the acid solution which can be scraped off before re-basifying


EDITED: im hoping to get some toluene soon so i'll try defatting hopefully that will work

 

[IGNVS]

sounds good.

gotta update everyone. the dish i had it in was scraped of crystals in the center that turned into the earwax stuff, which was REALLL yellow, when smoked my freind reported similar effects to the first time i hit some.

after this and a day later i scraped up the rest of the stuff on the side of the dish. it was fluffy and still waxy but definatly a lighter color. they was only a hint of yellow. i had a pile about the size of 3 or so u.s dimes stacked on eachother, which i was going to give to my other friend for his birthday. he told me to split it in two, and i didnt know if he would get any effect.
but i was wrong. oh i was wrong!

 

[elfdancer]

Thanks everyone.

 

[JRARMZ13]

my friend has made about 8 batches of DMT. and only his first 2 were a little harsh i mean what do u expect at first. but he uses ammonia to clean it up and then freezes it for almost double the time and it makes better crystals

 

[elfdancer]

^-- JRARMZ, did he do an acid extract first with vinegar? (and/or a defatting step?) Or did he go straight to basification?

 

[mardybum]

straight to basification does increase yeild but can only be done with mimose as other barks need defatting. recristillization will clean up the yellow gooey mixtures.

 

[JRARMZ13]

i will ask him today and get back to u

 

[kong]

I believe marsofold is the first person to post how much higher yeilding ph of 13.4 was.

 

[Elgr]

A bunch of nookers confirm that the acid step can indeed be skipped for mimosa. I don't think there's any problem with yellow oils when using freeze precip or cleaning the end product, as one might want to consider anyway.

Simply evaporating and being done with it will surely get you yellow gunk.

 

[Trogdor]

Lets say one does a strictly non-polar extraction, and ends up with a bunch of dirty crystal. Would it be possible to do the following to clean it up? (idea courtesy of max_freakout)


1. Mix the dmt freebase crystal with vineger (or vinegar + water). The dmt will become miscible when the acid converts it to dmt acetate.

2. Defat with a toluene or xylene pull. This should pull out all the non-polar crap while leaving the dmt acetate in solution.

3. Drop basified water into the solution to convert the dmt back to freebase.

4. Do a naptha pull. The dmt should be very clean now.



Questions:

1. Would this work? Ideally the toluene/xylene would need to pull absolutely no dmt out of solution. (dmt acetate is apparently only miscible in non-polar solvents that are chlorinated.)

2. What would the most appropriate ph's be for both the original vinegar solution and the solution after basified water is added?

3. Is sodium hydroxide miscible in naptha?

 

[folias]

key word = recrystallisation

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