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Lysergamides [Combo Subthread] LSD & Ketamine

This combination, adding cannabis to the mix, is the ultimate experience I have to date. If you want to get a bang for your buck dose the acid and then about an hour and 20 minutes in start with 50mg of K and work your way up. Then when the K kicks in after 3 minutes (intranasally) smoke just one hit of weed and this will invoke the fetal position pretty damn quickly. This was my third ++++ experience and it is always amazing to revisit that most eternal feeling of deja vu.
 
Ketamine + Acid WILL change you, I'm almost certain of it. I had one of the most powerful experiences of my life like this. 3 gel tabs of acid, and 80mg ketamine IM'd. I do not have the words to describe the experience, but just imagine, a still image becomming your life. Just thinking back to the experience almost causes my eyes to water. I've only done it once, and will probably only do it once more.

Definately a surreal combo.

Like nothing else.

It will NOT be how you imagine it. It will be so much more :)
 
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Yes, it's definitely a great combo. I took 2 hits of good blotter, and did bumps of K throughout the whole trip. When I was coming down off the acid I K Holed, BIG TIME. I've never once experienced anything close to that before. It was so amazing, and frightening at the same time.

Also, I felt a little detatched the next day. Hard to explain..
 
It's just a shame about the ketamine experience being so hard to remember! Only bits and pieces...

The 2 times I've IM:ed it (100mg & 150mg, not in a combination with anything) I mostly remember the thought of "what led to this moment" as in realising the cause and effect of my life leading to this decision and a possible death/psychosis/never returning to the normal reality that might follow. Losing contact with my body and surroundings... Something happening... Then slowly realizing my position, the place I'm in and what just happened.

In the 100mg dose I was more conscious of what was happening, the 150mg definately took me to the "hole" of no concepts but I don't think I took too much as the 100mg only lasted some 20minutes and I was pretty much aware of where I am and what's happening, just memories blending and confusion about time and so on.

Where does the learning part come in? Are serotonergic drugs going to help make the ketamine experience easier to remember and analyze?

So far I can see the value in learning to accept the experience of dying with ketamine, as I'm pretty sure that's somewhat how dying feels like when the ketamine really takes hold... Just losing EVERYTHING and having to accept it.

But metaprogramming, entity contact... how?
 
It's just a shame about the ketamine experience being so hard to remember! Only bits and pieces
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i agree.
ON K you have the best most profound experece then forget about80% of the trip when it ends.
Just like a dream, the memory fades within minutes upon awakening.
When I mix K+trypt/phens I dont notice any increase in memory of the trip, just a more powerful trip.
K+lsd has to be one of the best combos out there though!
 
Very nice combo. We had been doing small bumps of K before dropping 1 drop of liquid followed by another. Bumping small bits of K throughout the night added a lovely hazy edge to the visuals, and certainly helped me relax into the trip. Never tried a K-hole on it, but i plan too soon. So in conlusion i reccommend small amounts at any point of the experience.
 
LSD + Ketamine ......any thoughts?

I've been reading about this combo on erowid and on here, and it seems like most people say it is overwhelmingly intense and that they would not do it again.

I'm a big fan of NO2 with LSD, though I will admit that if I'm really spun and I do it, I experience space travel and it can freak me out a little. i can handle it, but if it lasted for, say, 1/2 - 1 hour, I think it would be a little crazy. I think it seems like it could be very profound, but also potentially scary.

What do you guys think about this combo?
 
I love it, I find its the best way for me to loose touch with reality.

You just got to remember you don't need to take as much as you normally would because your already on something else.
A nice line once your peaking on the 'cid and you're good to go ^^
 
depends on how much of each you take but the combo can be very overwhelming, for me it is very overwhelming if i take too much k i mixed the two and almost died from a k overdose(which is very possible)
 
I love it...in fact I won't take LSD unless I have ketamine (and MDMA). I usually take the K right at the peak (2 hr point), or just after. Either way, FANTASTIC combo. ALways take 120mg IM injection. ONly way to fly!
 
^I found the one time I tried it (with K at a decent level) it was incredibly deep, but to me it didn't add to the experience just altered it in a neutral type of way.

Couldn't care either way really.
 
I took a full-on dose (for me) of ketamine (~125mg) while on MDMA and LSD last weekend, and it was the most intense drug experience I've ever had. I've taken some doses of various things that, looking back, were fucking retarded (8g mind-blowing shrooms, etc) and they didn't even come close to comparing to this.

I was kept alert enough from the other drugs to never really completely "go under" from the ketamine, and my mind was racing and racing. I didn't get the smooth dissolve into peaceful nothingness. I was torn apart and very aware of the entire process. It seemed so drawn out and long.

I was certain that I had died, very slowly, over and over. It took a while to sink in.

I completely, 110% parted with reality. I went to a new place, with totally different rules governing existence. I was everywhere and nowhere at the same time. I felt as if I lived out lives as other people. I was more than one person at the same time. My mind was so bent it is not describable. Thinking about it makes me kind of dizzy still, it was so overwhelming.

I came to believe (and I mean totally convinced) that my real life/reality was a dream that I had woken up from. All my memories of that life were just dreams that I remembered in a really skewed twisted way.

Every once in a while, with intense concentration, I could halfway open my eyes. I was hallucinating so intensely everything was just a blur of swirling color, beams of light, everything was fluid and squirting around like liquid. I had enough K wieghed out to sustain that sort of state for at least 4 hours or so. I felt compelled to remain there at the time, to figure it all out. It only got more and more confusing. Nothing made any sense. i'd think about everythign being total nonsense, and it only get more confusing. How could I have inhabited this fucked up universe for so long and not understand any of it?

Memories from my real life, that I thought I'd dreamed up, became more and more distorted. I became more and more convinced that I truly came from the K/LSD/MDMA world I was now in. As I realized my girlfriend, dog, etc, had never been real, I became very sad. Then I thought... thats odd. There is no sad here. or happy. or anything. It was all numbers in my head. Everything was just a series of numbers. enough of the numbers strung together encoded certain thoughts. Over time, as I came into contact with more and more complex series of numbers they accumulated in my mind and formed the memories I had from this dream/past life.

After realizing that everything i knew was randomly inserted into my mind, it seemed awful. Just terrible. How could I exist like this? I became convinced that there was a hell, and I was its lone occupant. Doomed to stay forever.

As I came out of it, I was SO HAPPY to be alive. I had trouble believing that the K thing was just a drug experience for a while.. wasn't as sober as I thought I was. I woke up in the morning and was pretty much ok, aside from being a bit shaken up. I had kief all over my lap, and pot in my hair. I guess I tried to load a bowl and flailed around like a lunatic.

anyway..
It is interesting to look back on, in a way. I will never repeat that again though. I would take similar combinations, but with much lower amounts of ketamine (~50mg max probably), and probably much shorter acting psychedelics. The LSD went on too long and kind of scrambled me.

If you do this, be very careful please.
If I had not had a lot of very intense trips before this, I would have completely lost the plot, flipped my shit, gone nuts, no idea what would have happened. at least I would have been too impaired from the ketamine to unzip the tent and get out, much less run into the street or something.

I took something like 350mg ketamine, the doses probably way to close together. That didn't help, im sure. I had 2 hits of strong acid, and about 160mg MDMA.
 
^ Insane experience! I've yet to reach such alien planes of existence within my head.
 
2 hits of liquid lsd + 80mg of K IM sent me to a place that either drug alone could not produce.
it is an incredible combo.

The only downside i found with this was that after the ketmain wears off i feel a litle tired, and kinda slow.

A thing to remeber is that when using Ketamine with on other psychedelics is that they potentiate each other in strength as well as length.
I was in a k trance for about 2 hours with lsd....when normally k puts me out for 20-40minutes.

another downside is that i dont remeber half of my lsd expierence cause the ketamine dissassociative effetcs cause cloudyness in memory.
It is probably the most altered states you can reach but retaining the expierence is hard. It is like you find infinite answers and dimensions in a k hole...but then forget most of it when you come out.

another combo i have tried is 4hodipt(26mg)+ Ketamine IM.
normally i find iprocin not intense and pretty mild.....but this combo actually took me alot farther than k+lsd.
It sent me to a virtual reality world where i was traveling thru a matrix of mandalas, whech seemed like the fabric of the universe. I also met an entity that was similar if not the same as the one i met on lsd+k.

good combo to try though....make sure when you do the K you have a sitter or in a safe place.
 
Ketamine & DMT (both IM) or DPT is something thar you're never going to be fully prepared for. LSD, unless taken at a high dose, is something that you will find perhaps easier to deal with when taking ketamine at the same time, but that's not to say it can't scare the shit out of you (been there - it's not a nice place by any stretch of the imagination)
 
fastandbulbous said:
...but that's not to say it can't scare the shit out of you (been there - it's not a nice place by any stretch of the imagination)
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No joke. I seriously believed that I was all alone by my fragmented little self in hell. I'm not sure it gets much more scary than that for me.
 
opiumdreamz said:
depends on how much of each you take but the combo can be very overwhelming, for me it is very overwhelming if i take too much k i mixed the two and almost died from a k overdose(which is very possible)
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Since when is this very possible?
 
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