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Codeine Extraction

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TranzE said:
Do most chemists stock that and do you normally get the 50 question drill when buying?
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I have only ever seen these in one chemist in Perth. When I buy them I usually just get asked if I've had them before and if I'm on any other medication.
 
DoctorShop said:
I have only ever seen these in one chemist in Perth. When I buy them I usually just get asked if I've had them before and if I'm on any other medication.
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i generally find they are in roughly about 50% of chemists in sydney, also it can sometimes depend on the area.

But when i go to a pharmacy with these, it goes in the memory bank and gets preference over non-chemist own pharmacies :)

And one more thing, dont get these mixed up with the pain TABSULES. Although the only ingredient difference is 0.4 mg of codeine less in the tabsules, they take FOREVER to dissolve and filter, and are consequently the WORST of all the brands i have tried. The tabsules generally tend to be more expensive, they are apparently easier to swallow for people who have trouble swallowing regular tablets, and they are yellow and capsule-shaped.

Just remember this simple rhyme:

Chemist's Own Pain Tablets are as good as it gets,
Chemist's Own Pain Tabsules is only for fools.

Lol i just made that up :)

enjoy my friends!

;)
 
^ So true, tabsules suck

Just one thing I seriously urge all of you to be very diligent with this practice so as not to abuse it. Codeine is a very addictive substance and if you start to use it on a regular basis you WILL find it very hard to stop when you want to.

Keep your intake sporadic, do a CWE every other week instead of every week and for gods sake dont use it two days or more in a row. Kicking a codeine habit is a painful experience and not one I would ever consider repaeating.

If you have a minute go and chaeck ou this site http://mc2.vicnet.net.au/home/cahf/index.html its a help forum set up by former and recovering addicts in order to help current addicts hoping to quit. Its easy to join just set up a username and pass word and you can access the forum and reference material. Read some of the posts some of these addicts who are struggling have put up, it may save you from a really bad habit

Happy extracting
 
DoctorShop said:
I have only ever seen these in one chemist in Perth. When I buy them I usually just get asked if I've had them before and if I'm on any other medication.
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There are chemists in certain large shopping shopping centres that keep these in such a location where they can merely be plucked off the shelf, without question...
 
Codeine not effective?

I use codeine every day..not much probably only about 30mg 3-4 times a day.

I have been using this much for about 5 years now. I have tried to stop but get severe headaches, diarrhoea, cramping and fatigue and nausea.

Anyway so I have been trying the Codeine Extraction and when I have say 300mg I seem to get no effect..

My question is, if one is always slightly dosed up, does that mean they can never get the codeine highs of a bumper dose?:D

[EDIT: Threads merged. hoptis]
 
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im finding that i can no longer get high from codiene i have no idea why and it pisses me off cause anything decent is hard to get for me atm, i done a cwe on 800mg and no luck, im not using everyday but i am on 300mg of tramadol a day a few weeks ago i had some oxy so i think this has bumped my tolarance up altho i got high once with codiene after i used the oxy. if you wanna quit the codine or atleast lower you dosages per day i sugest you get immodium and even try a different pain killer and valium, personally when i was getting off my habit of around 600mg a day i used a shit load of valium, xanax, kpins, tramadol, immodium and i was pretty high from these so it was like i didnt quit anything altho some times i would still take a good amount.

p.s - not saying to get a benzo habit they suck balls when your not high
 
I was just thinking for the Codeine addicts out there, do you think it would be smarter your addiction to poppy seed tea instead and eliminate para out of your diet?
 
Probably would be better for them (codeine addicts) but maintaining enough poppies to sustain a habit would be quite difficult I would think.
 
i aint come across poppy seeds here (brisbane aus) im not sure where to order (not asking for source) so therefor its not a option unless i get the actual seeds at a health shop, i done this a few times just bought the seeds and let them sit in water for about 2 hours and drank the water after straining it, provides a nice little high but you go thru the seeds too quickly is that the same case with the pods? im glad i done depend on opiates atm my docs hesitante to give anything out apparently a lot of people are abusing even the 30/500 pills and the doc is more happy to putme on tramadol which is bloody stupid drug at least the ER ones last a while. This is for real back pain not abuse
 
I urge those of you seriously wishing to kick your codeine habit to refer to the resource i posted several posts earlier. It has a lot of daily updates from people kicking serious codeine habits (e.g. someone recently was kicking a 70+ Nurofen per day habit that he had been carrying on for almost 10 years) and suggestions on the best ways to quit.

You have two methods to choose from. One is to just go cold turkey but be prepared for flu like symptoms, cramped legs, diarohea and a high level of anxiety or stress.

The other method is to taper of your use gradualy and then stop. Try by reducing your intake by 10% each week and maintain a rigorous plan. You will eventually have to go cold turkey but at lease you will be dropping from a lower regular intake.
 
Can I recommend the cold turkey route? I went tomy doctor and told him I was planning to stop using H cold turkey and he wrote me a script for 2mg diazapams (bah!). They did help a little though.

What you should expect:

- Stomach cramps
- Chold chills
- Hot flushes
- Cramps in the arms, legs...
- General flu like symptoms (runny nose, eyes)

Luckily I didn't have a huge habit and these symptoms only last just under a week. Good luck guys! You can do it.
 
I was reading some of the threads there... some people have totally wrecked their kidneys and liver from just eating them without doing a CWE. Thats insane. I really feel for those people. I guess the general public just aren't aware how dangerous paracetamol and ibruprofen can be to certain organs.

This is why Bluelight is a blessing (and sometimes a curse...). We have access to harm minimisation information.

Edit: While I'm on holidays I'm going to be working on a CWE FAQ because I think we need one. I will include pictures and everything. It will be totally awesome.
 
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hoptis said:
Is that with out without CWE?
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hoptis, I unfortunately have to say without.

Many of the people on there have never even heard of the technique and a handful started via the use of N+ back in the days of when they where bi-layered and the codeine section easily spit away from the Ibuprofen.

The majority though are just jacking pills like N+, Tylenol and Purofen etc etc straight out of the pack. There are people on there that are on dialysis machines, constant bleeding from the bowels, serious stomach ulcers and on it goes. There are some down right horror stories.

Regardless of the fact that you will be addicted to codeine if you use CWE, at least you will be removing a bulk of those chemicals that are going to cause you big problems. I guess thats where threads like this on BL have served a purpose
 
Heres a CWE method one could do at work provided you work in a laboratory:

Get 100 bottle of "Chemists Own" Pain Tablets. Dissolve 1:2 parts H2O by mass. Split evenly between 4 centrifuge tubes to within +/- 0.05g

Centrifuge for 20 mins at 0 deg C and greater than 2000rpm. This should cool the mixture down and separate the solid and liquid phases. Pre cooling is ok too.

Decant supernatent into a cup. Normal yield is between 100 to 150 mL.

Pull the supernatent into a 60 mL syringe and attach a Sartorious brand "Minisart" filter. Push the supernatent through the filter. You should encounter resistance as the filter is clogged. Change the filter when necessary. Best to use a sterile single use type of 0.2 micron pore size. 0.45 micron is ok too

Once all of your supernatent is filtered you should have 100mL or so of codeine concentrate. Yield should always be reasonable and always crystal clear!
 
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