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Cocodamol - The drug of the credit crunch? plus other codeine/dihydrocodeine queries

nobody ever says dhc is 3 times as strong...
it's a bit stronger though and i find it much nicer recreationally
 
DHC is roughly 1.5x as strong
and parttime- the difference between codeine and white lightning, is that as a P medicine codeine linctus is legally to be sold at the discretion of the pharmacist. they can say no for any reason, in the same way off licenses can say no to someone asking for alcohol (and legally they *must* do so if they are already drunk as many Shitening purchasers would be.)

the reason why one stops you and the other doesn't is that pharmacists are highly educated health professionals who could lose a well-paid job if they act illegally or unethically, and inspections on chemists do happen. while there are no RSPGB going around offies and checking who they sell their 9% lager and white cider to, and most people who work there are on low pay and not so worried about people's health.
 
Personally I find codeine to be a much better high than DHC. Plus it's a hell of a lot cheaper.
 
Evad said:
nobody ever says dhc is 3 times as strong...
it's a bit stronger though and i find it much nicer recreationally
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They do lol, as i say I disagree with the statement totally and am with it being 1.5-2 x stronger at best.

with my current situation if some idiot says dhc is 3 times stronger than codiene and i can show him the proffessional document then it will work in my favour to get my bloody co-codamol script back again, as ill say that i can get paramol which will equal to 30/500 cocos roughly :)
 
Purely out of interest, does anyone know what level of codeine would be fatal?
 
there's a ceiling dose, you won't get many more effects out of any more than 500mg
think codeine is really pretty safe orally
i quite regularly take 500mg (antihistamines definitely required at this dose)
 
So even if you took a massive amount, you're going to be ok? (I'm not talking about cocodamol here, just the codeiene).
 
how massive are we talking?
apparently 800-1200mg is the ld50 in non tolerant people
 
Just wondering what level aint going to be waking you up.

To be honest, not exactly an harm reduction theme.
 
apparently as low as 400-500 can be dangerous for a non-tolerant user, seems to be many factors here
 
How does Poppy Pod Tea compare? Only had codeine or dhc as far as opiates go, but planning on getting some pods in. How come their use isn't more prevalent?
 
poppy pod tea is far superior to codeine/dhc in my humble opinion.

I get mild WD's off pod tea even from small binges (1 week of use) this does not happen to me with any other opiates and probably has something to do with the wide range of alkaloids found in pods.

highly recommended but far too moreish, so if you do get some treat it with respect.
 
Yeah I've read a few addiction horror stories. I guess the "bulk buying" aspect of it makes binging very easy to do. Will have to make sure I stick to some strict rules if I get some in.
 
Pod tea needs to be treated with respect and is far stronger than your otc codeine and dhc products. The high can last a good 12 hours and often you're left with an afterglow the following day. Try to keep your use sporadic though because the withdrawals are pure hell.
 
although it lasts longer I always found the actual dunt to be inferior to a decent dose of dhc
 
TJF said:
Yeah I've read a few addiction horror stories. I guess the "bulk buying" aspect of it makes binging very easy to do. Will have to make sure I stick to some strict rules if I get some in.
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Depends on the quality of the pods you get. I was going with these people who are always saying "Watch you don't overdose!!!" and taking 10 pods or so to be "safe" - eventually realising it was going to take about 50 to pass threshold.

It's a very different high to codeine - much more stimulating because of another alkaloid in the poppy (forgotten it's name), also has a different effect on the quality of your sleep. Poppy tea sleep is a strange half-awake, half-dreaming state with very vivid dreams. I find codeine gives you a more restful sleep.
 
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