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Cocodamol - The drug of the credit crunch? plus other codeine/dihydrocodeine queries

Shambles said:
60mg a night of codeine isn't quite up there with a gram a day scag habit but it is somewhat habit-forming and does produce withdrawals used excessively. I wouldn't expect any real shittiness from 60mg/day when they run out - maybe a bit sniffly and shivery at worst.

I'd say recreational effects start at around 150mg but some find as little as 60mg does the trick. Others don't find it recreational at any dose. 200-300mg is probably the sweet spot for most but does vary a lot. Once you get much past 150mg things can get itchy and gets itchier the higher you dose - an OTC antihistamine knocks that on the head and makes the codeine more noddy too. Boost! :D
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Cheers for the info. I take citrizine everyday anyway!

What's the story with paracetemol? Could you just bosh your 8 a day 30/500's in one go, or are you pushing it with regards to the paracetemol fucking you up?
 
That wouldn't be such a hot idea - could probably get away with it every now and again but would be pushing your luck. No more than 1000-1500mg of paracetamol in one dose seems to be common advice - 4 hours minimum between doses. And that's at the upper "safe" range really. Nasty stuff with no real warning you've overdosed till you're deaded and no real warning of liver damage till you're yellow :\

I'd do a CWE on any recreational dose of co-codamol - worth the extra few minutes of faff :)
 
Shambles said:
That wouldn't be such a hot idea - could probably get away with it every now and again but would be pushing your luck. No more than 1000-1500mg of paracetamol in one dose seems to be common advice - 4 hours minimum between doses. And that's at the upper "safe" range really. Nasty stuff with no real warning you've overdosed till you're deaded and no real warning of liver damage till you're yellow :\

I'd do a CWE on any recreational dose of co-codamol - worth the extra few minutes of faff :)
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Not really that interested in actually doing it.....don't even have much interest in getting pissed these days when i'm at home, and when i'm away it's got to be the meph mayhem or the cocaine carnage.

Still, good to have the info locked away in my memory, thanks...just in case.....;)
 
plenty of mates have got the 30mg phosphate ones from the doc, and the syrup as well, reckon one could pretend? Like go to the doc and say I think I have ruptured my throat its SO sore I need some painkillers, can they tell if your throat is actually fucked? some codeine would be nice, gets cold here! :)
 
Don't think they actually prescribe the linctus for pain at all. So probably wouldn't be a good idea, they prescribe it for dry coughs I think. Someone with more info will be able to tell you more :).
 
The Kid said:
Cheers for the info. I take citrizine everyday anyway!

What's the story with paracetemol? Could you just bosh your 8 a day 30/500's in one go, or are you pushing it with regards to the paracetemol fucking you up?
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Sometimes when I take 4 (2g of Paracetamol) I can feel it in my liver the next day :\ So yea I'd really recommend you CWE if yer going to go and take any that is ;)
 
monstanoodle said:
I can feel it in my liver the next day
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Liver doesn't have any nerve endings so it's not the liver you're feeling. People can live with chronic cirrosis of the liver for decades and never feel a thing so a bit of codiene isn't going to cause any noticeable pain.

Most likely placebomine.
 
We've had this debate many times, Issy. Still the same answer - you're wrong ;)

My liver (or the area where my liver is at least) gets very sore and swollen if it takes a bashing. May well be the swelling putting pressure on more sensitive bits but if you batter your liver you can most definitely feel it. It hurts :|
 
Shambles said:
an OTC antihistamine knocks that on the head and makes the codeine more noddy too. Boost! :D
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Which one are we talking about here?.

I've been using cetirizine, but there's also some cinnarizine in the house (for my Mum's vertigo).
 
Chlorphenamine is the one I've got at the moment and does the trick, missus. One 4g tab is plenty - it's the bit of CCCs (DXM preperation) that causes brain damage but fine used alone at low dose. Sure I've used cetirizine too - some add to the noddiness/sedation and some just alleviate the itching a tad. Some probably do bugger all too but I'm not really a connoisseur and tend to just get whatever's the cheapest at the chemists.
 
Diphenhydramine is prolly the best one to use if you want to add more to the sedation / nodding out.
Cetirizine isn't supposed to cross the BBB so that's good if you don't want extra sedation and just itch relief.
Promethazine is good for nausea and itching and sedation, but too much can be nasty (very nasty:().
Chlorpheniramine is really quite nice as Shammy mentioned :) Nice sedation, slight anxiolytic action and sorts out itching nicely ^_^
 
Valoid is supposedly available in chemists but hasn't been openly sold in 10 years.
Phenergan is second best and is also invisible in the average chemist but most Boots will get it out from the dispensary/underneath the counter if you ask nicely...

Meclozine is also worth trying out, piriton is most easily available though
 
Ive tried the search engine but couldnt find any answers. Would mixing codine with either ket or coke be dangerous. Or both together? I know H/coke isnt good so thought this wouldnt be the best idea but im unsure about ket.

Ive read up on how to extract the codine out of the pills and fancy giving it a go ;)
 
^ Ditto. I'm planning doing an extraction tomorrow. Was thinking of getting paramol so I can make DHC instead tho. Will staff be wondering what i'm up to if i buy a few packs? Could do with making a g or two of either DHC or codeine. Prefferably DHC if it's supposed to be stronger.
 
Shambles said:
We've had this debate many times, Issy. Still the same answer - you're wrong ;)

My liver (or the area where my liver is at least) gets very sore and swollen if it takes a bashing. May well be the swelling putting pressure on more sensitive bits but if you batter your liver you can most definitely feel it. It hurts :|
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If I drink spirits in any quantity it certainly feels like I can feel discomfort/pain in my liver the next day :\ - However I have the answer - don't drink spirits :)
 
Has anyone else experienced almost crippling pain from doing codeine? I presumed at the time I got it from excess paracetomol, because it happened a few times when I rushed the CWE, so last couple of times i've done the CWE properly and still, after a little while after the high has worn off I get these intense pains in my chest. Only sensible thing i've decided is to stop taking it :\.

Just wondering if anyone might have any ideas what it could be from?
 
Coke and Codeine= Mismatch

stargazur said:
Ive tried the search engine but couldnt find any answers. Would mixing codine with either ket or coke be dangerous. Or both together? I know H/coke isnt good so thought this wouldnt be the best idea but im unsure about ket.

Ive read up on how to extract the codine out of the pills and fancy giving it a go ;)
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Codeine+cocaine is not worth it, as has been said many times on these forums the charlie will overpower such a weak opioid, and taking larger doses is useless because the body wont metabolise it into morphine after so much.

If youre gonna go for coke with opioid , then speedball properly, or don't do it. Coke is enough for a good night on its own.
As you mentioned, the 'ball is also dangerous- particularly for inexperienced users , so use a lot less of the two than you normally would if you were taking them separately, and shoot slowly. If you've never tried opioids, don't try them in this combination first.
Ket + codeine, more interesting, not something I have any experience with.
 
captain codshit said:
^ Ditto. I'm planning doing an extraction tomorrow. Was thinking of getting paramol so I can make DHC instead tho. Will staff be wondering what i'm up to if i buy a few packs? Could do with making a g or two of either DHC or codeine. Prefferably DHC if it's supposed to be stronger.
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you can only buy 1 pack at a time
paramol is a fiver a box of 32 so you might as well see if you like it before diving in and doing loads.
making up a g or two what would you do? just have bottles of liquid lying around and dose by the ml? not sure how stable codeine is in solution for long times either.
 
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