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Neuroborean said:
I don't really understand what's going on with the idea of Catholics worship Mary, I mean, my family is catholic and they worship God, only God (the Trinity, which is God). I think in some protestant countries some people have and exaggerated idea of how catholics "worship" Mary, perhaps because of the Rosary? not sure, perhaps it's because catholics in protestant countries are that way and give too much importance to Mary??

in anycase I'm a Christian but I don't usually go to Church and my praying it's personal, most times not through "formal" prayers. I just read the Bible and tend to feel close to God considering his words and my intuition. I know it's very far from perfect but my way has led me to that at the moment. I very recently became aware and expressly Christian, this has been a decision since I brokethrough on DMT and experimented what I consider to be "forbidden territories".
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Because as Chesterton once said many people don t hate the Catholic Church, hate the misguided image they have of a Catholic Church they know almost nothing about! Veneration is not worship, is about asking to the Mother of Our Lord to pray for us , the Catechism explains this point pretty well (paragraphs 721-726 http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c3a8.htm#721)
Moreover, despite the various Hail Marys the Rosary is about...Christ, is a meditation on the various events of His life https://www.vatican.va/special/rosary/documents/misteri_en.html
 
skipjames said:
Because as Chesterton once said many people don t hate the Catholic Church, hate the misguided image they have of a Catholic Church they know almost nothing about! Veneration is not worship, is about asking to the Mother of Our Lord to pray for us , the Catechism explains this point pretty well (paragraphs 721-726 http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c3a8.htm#721)
Moreover, despite the various Hail Marys the Rosary is about...Christ, is a meditation on the various events of His life https://www.vatican.va/special/rosary/documents/misteri_en.html
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Exactly.
Honestly I'm not super into Catholicism, I don't think of myself as an "insider" but my mother and aunt are and a friend of mine is studying to become a priest, so I know a bit of it, also because I studied philosophy and you have some theology there too. Only those who don't know enough can blame and complain quickly and irrationally.

I would like to find a way to "save" some "pagan" things that are considered "wrong" for no particular reason, some shamanistic practices and things like that, I consider some christian mysticism and some practices/writings of particular Saints like St. Hildegard to be some sort of Christian Shamanism.
It's not like I want some kind of Nature worshipping nor Nature veneration but just to set a healthy boundary on which certain practices could fit into a neo-traditional re-emergence of sorts on which mother nature could be valued as a gift from God, and not an enemy or a hassle as Nietzsche's think it is for "Christians". Like coming back into the origins, that happen in USA in some way, but I don't know if it's stained by too many sects and sectarianism (like some Adventists for example).
I just don't think valuing the gifts from God it's pagan, I think most cultures and tribes have some connection with God and the core of the Grace, it's just not polished so the demons/Evil forces get inside too. Christ came here to polish everything, to set the real boundaries, both intellectual, spiritual and material (morals), IMO.
 
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Neuroborean said:
also because I studied philosophy and you have some theology
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A fellow philosopher ! I teach Philosophy and this semester I m giving a History of Medieval Philosophy course, so you can imagine how I loose it listening to the anti Catholic shite
Neuroborean said:
I just don't think valuing the gifts from God it's pagan
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neither did Saint Francis https://www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=3188 or si parva licet ...Pope Francis https://www.vatican.va/content/fran...-francesco_20150524_enciclica-laudato-si.html so u are in good company :) I m a city boy myself, I m more into cities buildings and stuff, but Franciscan and also South American Catholicism is focused on the relationship with nature as a gift and a responsibility. " The world is evil the body is evil everything is evil "is more a Puritan things methinks....
 
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Neuroborean said:
it's just not polished so the demons/Evil forces get inside too. Christ came here to polish everything, to set the real boundaries, both intellectual, spiritual and material (morals), IMO.
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I totally agree. The problem is when you worship the creatures and not the Creator, then you have idolatry which is a problem not only for "pagans" but fo anyone who makes an idol of something or someone (money, people, party leaders, alas drugs...)
 
But he was wounded because of our crimes, crushed because of our sins; the disciplining that makes us whole fell on him, and by his bruises* we are healed.
Yesha 'yahu (Isa) 53:5 CJB

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Yesha 'yahu (Isa) 53:5 But he was wounded because of our crimes, crushed because of our sins; the disciplining that makes us whole fell on him, and by his bruises* we are healed. | Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) | Download The Bible App Now

But he was wounded because of our crimes, crushed because of our sins; the disciplining that makes us whole fell on him, and by his bruises* we are healed.
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Luke 23:39-43 : " One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, “Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!” But the other responded, and rebuking him, said, “Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our crimes; but this man has done nothing wrong.” And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!” And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”
 
so my heart is glad, my glory rejoices, and my body too rests in safety; for you will not abandon me to Sh’ol, you will not let your faithful one see the Abyss.
Tehillim (Psa) 16:9‭-‬10 CJB
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Tehillim (Psa) 16:9-10 so my heart is glad, my glory rejoices, and my body too rests in safety; for you will not abandon me to Sh’ol, you will not let your faithful one see the Abyss. | Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) | Download The Bible App Now

so my heart is glad, my glory rejoices, and my body too rests in safety; for you will not abandon me to Sh’ol, you will not let your faithful one see the Abyss.
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But he said, “Don’t be so surprised! You’re looking for Yeshua from Natzeret, who was executed on the stake. He has risen, he’s not here! Look at the place where they laid him.
Mark (Mrk) 16:6 CJB
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Mark (Mrk) 16:6 But he said, “Don’t be so surprised! You’re looking for Yeshua from Natzeret, who was executed on the stake. He has risen, he’s not here! Look at the place where they laid him. | Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) | Download The Bible App No

But he said, “Don’t be so surprised! You’re looking for Yeshua from Natzeret, who was executed on the stake. He has risen, he’s not here! Look at the place where they laid him.
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Yeshua answered, “I am the bread which is life! Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever trusts in me will never be thirsty.
Yochanan (Jhn) 6:35 CJB

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Yochanan (Jhn) 6:35 Yeshua answered, “I am the bread which is life! Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever trusts in me will never be thirsty. | Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) | Download The Bible App Now

Yeshua answered, “I am the bread which is life! Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever trusts in me will never be thirsty.
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Stay united with me, as I will with you — for just as the branch can’t put forth fruit by itself apart from the vine, so you can’t bear fruit apart from me. “I am the vine and you are the branches. Those who stay united with me, and I with them, are the ones who bear much fruit; because apart from me you can’t do a thing.
Yochanan (Jhn) 15:4‭-‬5 CJB

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Yochanan (Jhn) 15:4-5 Stay united with me, as I will with you — for just as the branch can’t put forth fruit by itself apart from the vine, so you can’t bear fruit apart from me. “I am the vine and you are the branches. Th | Complete Jewish Bible (CJ

Stay united with me, as I will with you — for just as the branch can’t put forth fruit by itself apart from the vine, so you can’t bear fruit apart from me. “I am the vine and you are the branches. Th
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The Day of the Lord the sun will be darkened. The moon will be blood in the Great Day of His Anger

Joel 2:31
 
Daniel 10:10
Then a hand touched me and raised me, tottering, to my hands and knees.He said to me, “Dani’el, you are a greatly loved man. Now pay attention to the words I am saying to you, and stand upright; for it is to you that I have been sent now.” After he had said this to me, I stood up, trembling.Then he said to me, “Don’t be afraid, Dani’el; because since the first day that you determined to understand and to humble yourself before your God, your words have been heard; and I have come because of what you said. - Daniel 10:10-12 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel10:10-12&version=CJB
 
You know growing up. I can see a streak of genius. If my ADD would of been treated who knows my potential but that might be a bad thing cuz the war is what made me. I was seeing g everything from different Angles. Lust was what I dealt with. I remember I told God I'll do anything to get rid of that Grosse sin. I just didn't know it was going to be utterly painful. I Honor My Father. For I'm partaking in His Holiness.l
 
Let no one deceive himself. If anyone thinks that he is wise among you in this world, let him become a fool that he may become wise.
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, "He has taken the wise in their craftiness."
And again, "The Lord knows the reasoning of the wise, that it is worthless."
Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours,
whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come. All are yours,
and you are Christ’s, and Christ is God’s.

1 Coríntios 3:18-23
 
Exodus 4:24-26:

On the way, at a place where they spent the night, the Lord met him and tried to kill him. But Zipporah took a flint and cut off her son’s foreskin, and touched Moses’ feet with it, and said, ‘Truly you are a bridegroom of blood to me!’ So he let him alone. It was then she said, ‘A bridegroom of blood by circumcision.’
 
I know I don't understand all of the OT. I do believe every word. Their lifestyle was way different then ours. With science on the rise and technology moving at hyper drive. Science will become the God of this age. Churches were meant to huddle in houses and pray and soak up God's truth. We have step to a more generic mainstream version. My children. You are my church. My prize. Did you think I went against the grain on my own. No I was meeting ppl who just needed to hear someone loves them. The 1 ministry I didn't want God is forcing me to do. I've studied and lived in a state of constant persecution where I can clearly see why John said blessed is the man who reads aloud the words of these prophecies 4 the time is already here.
 
That's why on passover Christ offered Himself once a for all to redeem a remnant. A wife. The Crown of His Creation. It's not gay or straight stuff. God was going to get what He wanted whether Adam and Eve didn't screw up. A wife. To have fellowship with His other half. We finite creatures can't understand it but rest assure God didn't say if you eat of this tree. He said THE DAY YOU EAT OF IT YOULL SURELY DIE.


IF MANY ARE DRAGON BALL Z FANS IMAGINE Christ just destroying the enemy like it ain't nothing. You have to see His Eyes to see an ocean of love that was so piercing that I couldn't forget His concerned look.


Nothing to fret about. He got what He wanted.
 
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