Best Excuse to tell Authorities Of Why You're In Da Hood...

[mdmantpa]

.... semi-long post ahead...

Yes I am aware these "laws"(if you wish to call them that) exist in some cities and towns. However, they do not supercede the constitution.
All I'm saying is please be aware of your rights. Excersize and defend them at all costs.

Edit - ^^^ That picture is absolute bullshit. I do not recognize the "cheif of police" as an authority figure capable of making such decisions, and neither should you. It comes into direct conflict with the 4th ammendment. You and I may go about our buisness in that or any neighborhood as we so choose, as long as that buisness dosen't conflict with the rights of others, and we are NOT subject to harassment/search.

If you are unfortunate enough to fall victim to such tyranny, contact a good lawyer and the ACLU, as there is little I or anyone else at BL can do.

Not to be a dick man but I gotta say that is horrible advice. Sadly there is a REAL difference between what the law should be and what it is/what police do. Maybe you have never been arrested before, idk, but if you have I would think you would know that like Lacey mentioned before spitting that I know my rights bullshit is likely to get your charges increased or a beat down among other things.

In the inner city cops are more like soldiers than police. They are in constant danger from people who hate them and gangs that don't mind killing them. So when you confront an already agitated, overly aggressive male who is feeling threatened constantly, chances are they will lash out on you horribly.

Also the police force is like a big fraternity, cops have no problems confirming their partners innocence or denying their lies in a court or to a judge. Rights or no rights, 10 times out of 10 people are going to believe two police officers over one junkie or crackhead.

But hey feel free to go try and cop a bundle in one of these neighborhoods and exercise your "rights". If you don't get robbed by the stick up kids or jump out boys chances are you will be stopped by the police. If you try that smart ass shit with them you will most likely be dragged out of your car, cuffed and thrown in their car whether they find the dope or not. And chances are if you are the type to say "I know my rights" you are going to have your rights violated in lockup. (I'm not saying no ass-rapings or nothing, but dont think that it will be a pleasant experience)

Your best chance in all actuality is to let them know you don't want any trouble and that you will be on your way as soon as they let you go and won't come back. Admitting you haven't copped yet and will just leave is about the only thing I would admit, if it all. It is more important to KNOW your rights rather than to try and flex them on the cops. Your rights will come in handy by knowing how to shut the fuck up until a lawyer gets there, thats about it.

Oh and they aren't really rights if someone (government) gives them to you, can change them, or take them away. Sounds more like borrowed rights to me...and if they do infringe on your rights freedom ain't free, you will likely have to fork over anywhere from 10k-50k just to protect these so called rights. That's one of the biggest reasons to not try and let the police know that you have rights, it is much more affordable to try and just take a little bit of a tongue-lashing and some public humiliation, and be let off with a $100 fine, then to go through the process of being arrested, getting charged, doing time, paying a lawyer, and rolling the dice hoping that you only have to do the time til your case is called, and not the likely multiple years a judge can throw at you.

Maybe it's just me though, and I'm the dumb ignorant American who doesn't exercise his rights at all times in order to avoid jail time and a hefty lawyer fee.

 

[delta_9]

Oh and they aren't really rights if someone (government) gives them to you, can change them, or take them away. Sounds more like borrowed rights to me..

Are you fucking JOKING? The constitution only lists the rights we are born with, they are not 'given by any governmental body', we are born with them and they can NEVER be taken away. Government has power under the people, not over them. Government has no 'rights' per se, they have 'privileges' which are granted by the people and may be revoked at any time by the people.

I'm not saying you should blow your life savings getting a civil rights lawyer everytime your're busted for a bag of weed, but I AM saying that our(emphasis - ALL OF OUR) rights' are being seriously threatened by the governmental body that is the US.

Do whatever you feel is best/right/moral/least costly/whateverthefuck for you in any legal situation. I'm simply stating my firm beliefs.

 

[NeedlessBeing]

Unless your dope spot is very close to a popular tourist attraction/area that you will not be completely out of place due to your skin color, and well, that is about it....your going to have a hard time convincing any cop working a beat close to an open-air market you're lost or meeting a friend. A you can spit your rights all day long, but the bottom line is cops can be assholes and they HATE to have their authority questioned. It simply isn't the right play IF you have drugs on you. There are ways out of every situation, but that 'aint one of them. Luckily for Chicago heroin-heads, many of the spots are close to popular tourist attractions, and if you don't LOOK like a junkie, the lost/looking for parking excuse can work(as it has twice for me).

Best of luck ,and be safe...ideally, you never need to BS a cop, because it 'aint easy...

 

[SZodiac]

I was once bouncing out of the spot and run smack into the hands of the law. I had a bundle loose in the band of the hat I was wearing. The two cops threw me and another dude up against this fence and patted us down. They asked what I was doing and I said I was looking for my junkie assed girlfriend who just stole my paycheck. I acted pissed off a bit cause I was (for getting jacked). Anyways, one cop takes my hat off and slaps it against his knee but then puts it back on my head. By now I'm about freaking that I'm going in. They ask our names and numbers and run it. The other cop come over (its just about dusk now) and he takes my hat off. He's just about to shine his flashlight into it, when the chick who does the searches comes back on the radio and says I got no warrents. He stops to answer his radio and sets the hat back on my head again. Finally they tell me to get outta dodge and I walk away (weak in the knees). The dude I rode over with (and was coppin for) split the minute he saw the cruiser so when I got back to the crib I had the whole bun for myself. That was just shit assed luck though and prolly the only time I've ever got out of it.

 

[FiReMiLd]

Are you fucking JOKING? The constitution only lists the rights we are born with, they are not 'given by any governmental body', we are born with them and they can NEVER be taken away. Government has power under the people, not over them. Government has no 'rights' per se, they have 'privileges' which are granted by the people and may be revoked at any time by the people.

I'm not saying you should blow your life savings getting a civil rights lawyer everytime your're busted for a bag of weed, but I AM saying that our(emphasis - ALL OF OUR) rights' are being seriously threatened by the governmental body that is the US.

Do whatever you feel is best/right/moral/least costly/whateverthefuck for you in any legal situation. I'm simply stating my firm beliefs.

Very well said. In the USA there is 2 different kinds of people. Ones who will stand/fight for their rights no matter what, then the second bunch that fold too authority. If everyone stood up for their rights this wouldn't be such an on going problem. The founders would have killed any "cops" that acted like todays lol come on now. If you like to get pushed around I guess backing down is easier. Probably happens in more then one aspect of you're life anyway.

 

[mdmantpa]

Very well said. In the USA there is 2 different kinds of people. Ones who will stand/fight for their rights no matter what, then the second bunch that fold too authority. If everyone stood up for their rights this wouldn't be such an on going problem. The founders would have killed any "cops" that acted like todays lol come on now. If you like to get pushed around I guess backing down is easier. Probably happens in more then one aspect of you're life anyway.

I love how easy a bunch of you guys on bluelight like to think/act like its no big deal to take a stand when I'm guessing you've probably never really had to. I used to try that shit when I was like 13, and then I grew up and learned better. There are much better ways to do what you please then to have to blatantly fight for it.

I learned my lesson the hard way, you try looking at a 50 year prison sentence. I learned pretty quick that my pride wasn't worth being put in a cage for the rest of my life. You can fight for what you believe behind the scenes, and you will probably have much better results and it isn't being a pussy neither.

That our founders wouldve shit you are talking, some dudes just tried it if you pay attention to whats going on and now they are all sitting in cages for the next decade or two. 8)

Would you personally stand up to a dirty cop that planted a bag on you and has a gun pulled claiming that you are getting too aggressive, and that he will use force if necessary? I would really find it hard to believe.

Maybe I'm the only one but it gets a little annoying to me when you have people talking real big on the internet, but in real life those same elitist suburban kid-types would probably shit themselves if they ever got into some of the situations they talk big about online.

Also you don't seem like the type to do much confronting, as you spewed some passive-aggressive bullshit at the end, instead of just trying to call me a pussy.

I guess I'm just trying to say that I don't agree with what the government does, but I am also saying I'm not dumb enough to try and start shit with someone that could take the few "rights" I currently have away. I find it much more intelligent to organize and act behind the scenes and not put myself in a bad position that could have been easily avoided.

 

[toa$t]

man am I ever glad I live in Canada.

 

[delta_9]

I love how easy a bunch of you guys on bluelight like to think/act like its no big deal to take a stand when I'm guessing you've probably never really had to.

Indeed, you are guessing, because I have been in this situation several times.

When did I EVER say that you should get in a cop's face talking about civil rights at the scene? This is something you need to handle with your lawyer when you are granted one.

Do not talk to police...EVER. Anything you say can and will be used against you, NOT for you. Remember that.
If you are approached by a policeman, kindly introduce yourself, present your ID, ask why you've been stopped. It's also important to ask if you are currently being detained/arrested. Because if you aren't you are free to leave at any time.
If, after all this, you are still being harassed, then I suppose you may as well suck it up and play his little game(As this seems to be the attitude here - apathy )

As I've stated before, do whatever you feel is best for yourself. I am not a lawyer and don't claim to be. I am a patriotic citizen of the United States of America.

And with that, I will kindly leave this thread, my interest is not in making enemies here at Bl. :D

***EDIT***
If you have a moment(~60 minutes or so), please watch this video. It is some of the best legal advice I have ever seen/read.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE&feature=related - Part 2

 

[mdmantpa]

^That last rant wasnt really directed towards you at all, sorry if it came off that way. It was in response to that firemild guy after passively calling me a bitch. No enemies here

 

[FiReMiLd]

I love how easy a bunch of you guys on bluelight like to think/act like its no big deal to take a stand when I'm guessing you've probably never really had to. I used to try that shit when I was like 13, and then I grew up and learned better. There are much better ways to do what you please then to have to blatantly fight for it.

I learned my lesson the hard way, you try looking at a 50 year prison sentence. I learned pretty quick that my pride wasn't worth being put in a cage for the rest of my life. You can fight for what you believe behind the scenes, and you will probably have much better results and it isn't being a pussy neither.

That our founders wouldve shit you are talking, some dudes just tried it if you pay attention to whats going on and now they are all sitting in cages for the next decade or two. 8)

Would you personally stand up to a dirty cop that planted a bag on you and has a gun pulled claiming that you are getting too aggressive, and that he will use force if necessary? I would really find it hard to believe.

Maybe I'm the only one but it gets a little annoying to me when you have people talking real big on the internet, but in real life those same elitist suburban kid-types would probably shit themselves if they ever got into some of the situations they talk big about online.

Also you don't seem like the type to do much confronting, as you spewed some passive-aggressive bullshit at the end, instead of just trying to call me a pussy.

I guess I'm just trying to say that I don't agree with what the government does, but I am also saying I'm not dumb enough to try and start shit with someone that could take the few "rights" I currently have away. I find it much more intelligent to organize and act behind the scenes and not put myself in a bad position that could have been easily avoided.

OBVIOUSLY if an individual(cop) has a gun to you're head you do whatever it takes at the moment not too get shot lol. I'm talking more along the lines of getting harassed/questioned when just standing or driving around. I'm not talking about if some insane cop for whatever reason pulls and gun on you and plants a bag of dope because you refused to obey them. If that happens you do what it takes to get out of the situation, but that cop should be in fear for thinking he could break you're rights. Behind the scenes or in court is where law gets taken care of.

EDIT: LOL My post was not towards you what so ever. I didn't even read any of yours in this thread. It was a GENERAL statement. Sorry you taken it personal, but I guess if it offeneded you then...

 

[Kurrupt]

man am I ever glad I live in Canada.

For sure

 

[PGHSTEELERBOI]

i'll tell you why junkies don't "stand up for their rights". because we're junkies. our rights don't apply to everything else as do for people that don't do illicit drugs. addicts break the law everyday and when a cop whose job it is to put us away, pulls us over, we expect them to break the law also if need be. and in most cases then not, they do, ESPECIALLY if you get smart and start that B.S.....anyway, you CAN play the patriotic citizen role but GUESS WHY AN ADDICT IS NOT GOING TO --> BECAUSE IF YOU DO, YOU WILL MORE THAN LIKELY BE GOING TO JAIL RIGHT THEN AND THERE AND NO ADDICT WANTS TO GOTO JAIL PERIOD, LET ALONE SICK. SO, what have we learned? Addicts lifestyles are very repititious(sp)?....anyways they cop in the same hoods day after day after day and even if you did get away from that one cop at the traffic stop, you will most likely see them AGAIN or worse yet, them see you AGAIN in the hood and that only complicates matters. Especially if you hired Johnny Cochran and tried to make a case against them after them throwing you in jail for wrongful arrest and fake dope and assault and whatever other charges you pissed them off into pressing against you

 

[delta_9]

i'll tell you why junkies don't "stand up for their rights". because we're junkies

No we're not, and I personally take offense to that.
Yes, I use drugs, and I have my "issues" with how much/often I use, but am not a junkie and if you said that to my face we'd have problems.
If you have self esteem issues about yourself and feel you're nothing more than a junkie, then that is your business, but don't you DARE judge(insult is really the right word) others.

I didn't read the rest of your post. This one sentence tells me everything I need to know about your attitude

 

[cj]

In my experience everything Lacey has said is spot on and it really is sad. Our country has gone to hell. I always use the im lost excuse it has never worked though crying worked last time. I drive a nice car everytime I go down to cop I feel like a have a bullseye on me.

 

[PGHSTEELERBOI]

delta - never spoke to you or called you anything directly, so if you got offended by the term junkie, then if the shoe fits....

also, id love for you to talk half the shit you do in here in this forum in real life and see if you get the same responses you post about.

you totally ruined and fucked this thread by arguing with everyone from moderators to new users. you bring a combative attitute and personality along with stupid ideas. don't post in any of my upcoming threads. THANK you

sorry guys idiots like this is why i'm closing this thread

 

[Tommyboy]

I wanted to stock up on 99 cent cans of arizona iced teas. They charging 2 bucks in the suburbs for them.

Trying to get this thread back on track, whether you have funny excuses, or possible legit ones, this should be in all good manor.

 

[Georgie25]

When i was using dope everyday copping from philly hoods, I'd always park out of the hood and just walk in. Theres so many junkies cops dont really fuck with the people just walking around. But if they see a white dude driving around near the spots, pulled!

Never been arrested in my 2 + years of copping off the street everyday..ive been stopped for being white 3 times though when i was sick and desperate driving to the spot. Let go cuz i didnt have shit on me yet.

 

[delta_9]

delta - never spoke to you or called you anything directly, so if you got offended by the term junkie, then if the shoe fits....

also, id love for you to talk half the shit you do in here in this forum in real life and see if you get the same responses you post about.

you totally ruined and fucked this thread by arguing with everyone from moderators to new users. you bring a combative attitute and personality along with stupid ideas. don't post in any of my upcoming threads. THANK you

sorry guys idiots like this is why i'm closing this thread

This is absurb. I've only stated what I believe to be right as per the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

My apologies for any confusion or if I have offended anyone here. As I've stated, I am not a lawyer and do not advertise myself as such.

I will leave this thread peacefully if that is truly the consensus here, however please be aware that I wish no legal troubles upon anyone here and never did. I simply love my country and it's citizens, and am deeply concerned with where we may be heading.

 

[Depressicaa]

So, with 95% of the cops you could potentially run into, you have to play the "I'm sorry SIR" game, and if you have a damn good hiding spot for your dope(which you absolutely should have by now) CONSENT to a search.

Theres also the excuse of you being late for something. Why give them a chance to search it for any reason?

 

[NeedlessBeing]

Theres also the excuse of you being late for something. Why give them a chance to search it for any reason?

Well, yeah, ideally they buy the original excuse if you've played the game well up to that point/had the props ready/etc...both times I got pulled over in the open-air market I had done all I could beforehand to minimize risk, and as a result it made it much, much easier for the cops to believe what I was telling them and both pointed me in the right direction and that was that. This was Chicago though, and like I said, one of the main markets is only a few blocks away from a tourist attraction, and as a result it isn't THAT odd to see caucasians driving and walking around a few blocks away from the open-air neighborhood/market.

If your favorite open-air spot doesn't have an area nearbye where it isn't THAT unusual to see caucasians, you probably can't pull off the game I posted earlier(the I'm looking for tourist attraction X, thank god you pulled me over, I was supposed to be there ten minutes ago, or something along those lines). In that case, the cop is inevtibaly going to ask to search your car, and that is when I would lay it on thick with the "no problem officer, I've nothing to hide". You better have a damn good hiding place though, even if you have planted the seeds of doubt in his head by accepting his search request in a positive/normal way(not always easy to do, as many of us will freeze/start shaking/etc...in that case...walk in or use a middle-man).

Or you could use your play once he requests permission to search your vehicle, the "I'm in a hurry officer, so, with all due respect, no, I can not let you search my vehicle(I'd say vehicle, not car, for no reason in particular...lol...). What happens next varies from cop to cop, but given the area where you were pulled over...I'm willing to wager a pretty penny that Sgt. Slaughter is going to do everything/anything in his/her power to get inside of your car...and it's likely that the K-9 unit will be called in because they are probably nearbye, or hell, he may say he has probable cause and search anyway! So, instead of having the cop search your car while thinking that there may be a decent chance you are telling the truth about not having anything to hide, Sgt. Slaughter will search like a maniac because this guy I just pulled over MUST be hiding something and I'M going to get him good for challenging MY AUTHORITY!!!

You understand? It's a sad state of affairs, for sure, but cops in these areas seem to play by different rules...so playing the game in an unconventional manner may be the only way to "beat" the cop in his domain.

Best of luck, and remember...even if you play the game perfectly, there is still a chance you run into a total douchebag that just KNOWS you're hiding something, even if your actions suggest otherwise. That is why we want HIM searching for something that should be hidden DAMN well, and not the K-9 cop he may call once you piss him off by challenging his authority.

This is just my take, I respect those of you that believe your rights will get you out of any bad situation, ideally that would be the case.