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^ I think alot of those subjects just pertain to their place in Australia

Basically everyone should just get over it and stop bitching

*waves to Laura*

:)
 
I got a better idea: All people not from Australia and surrounding areas should stay the hell out as they are off topic. See most of the people in this forum have met one another at some point of their BL lives and that's why we can post erroneous bullshit, because we are friends, it's like having silly conversations. Get back to the lounge and rack up some more posts...
 
ButrosButros_Grantos said:
I got a better idea: All people not from Australia and surrounding areas should stay the hell out as they are off topic.
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There's that famous Aus Social hospitality the yanks have heard so much about! :D
 
ahhh...the bluelight cycle.

I am of the opinion that you post in the community you feel most comfortable posting in. I dont go into areas I dont feel comfortable with, but I enjoy posting here because there is a good balance of topics, I know alot of people personally and, for the most part, everyone makes a certain level of effort to assimilate into the culture of the forum. We might seem like a sub-culture that keeps to itself and blah blah but we welcome new members all the time and for the most part the mods do a good job. It really is a matter of just leaving it be and letting it run its course. If people from outside Australia want to post here that's fine but they need to respect the existing members of this forum. The same would be expected in the other forums.
 
Beatlebot said:
Let's see.

You have big long threads that are based around getting to know each other.

You have to 'make a name for yourself' before anyone will take notice of you.

You have tight cliques.

As we have seen, you are very nasty and rude to newcomers.

No, you're not like the lounge at all.
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beatlebot seriously, what is your point?

we have all realised that there are similarities between aus social and the lounge. noone is denying that or has ever denied that.

but do you understand that for the two forums to co-exist, there needs to be differences?

which is where the debate over the content of aus social comes into play.

yes it's a hard line to draw, to get the balance right, but at the end of the day there are some threads that scream lounge, some that fall into a grey area and some which are more "intellectual" (and I'm loathe to use that word because I'm not trying to put myself, or aus social on a pedestal - but it simply is). Threads that are more in the vein of CE & P, but have an australian slant.
 
I think the people who have made BL as a whole their territory and not just limited themselves to this forum, or the lounge, or SLR are having the biggest laugh of all.

Fuck it, no forum is going to unroll the red carpet and make people at home, Im the type of person who barges in and puts my feet up on the virtual coffee table anyway.

Who here can say that they can contribute to any forum on BL they choose to without fear of "treading on anyones toes"? I can, having actually taken in and listened to peoples points of view in this thread.

In the end, its just the internet and in 100 years whos going to care.
 
Mary Poppins said:
yes it's a hard line to draw, to get the balance right, but at the end of the day there are some threads that scream lounge, some that fall into a grey area and some which are more "intellectual"
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Ah yes ... How could i forget about the neighbours thread, the frown/smile threads, track of the moment, and car shopping?

Aus social isnt interesting enough to be in the same sentence as The Lounge or CE&P. Its more like a watered down Second Opinion.
 
DigitalDuality said:
I know i have never moved a single Lounge thread to Aus Social, i'd lay money on Finder and RC (and the late GL) haven't either.
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Well someone has. I don't know who, but I've moved threads back there that have been moved here (surprise surprise - aussie bashing threads! 8o!) but started in the lounge...


DigitalDuality said:
Non-BL specific, but ya know, when the internet started to boom, people got all wide eyed at the idea of a GLOBAL community, rather than self segregationalist bullshit. There is a great deal alot of little small minded US-is-the-only-country-that-matters types could learn from other cultures, but they'll never be exposed to it as long as other cultures form these "us only" clubs. Why are there very little Aus, Euro, Canadian, or other countries politics in CEP? Why can't americans and aussies or others, find common things to laugh at via the lounge.

I might be an antagonist of sorts, and i make my jokes bashing Aus Soc in the Lounge, but in all seriousness seeing comments like "90% of americans are fuckwits" habitually (and non jokingly i might add) and then seeing a group of people huddle up in their tree house away from everyone else reeks of a "Boys only club" or a "no darkies allowed" type of shit. We're free to post here, but like many have said.. it's so cliquish..and at times down right cold.. who the hell wants to? So yeah.. we joke and pick.

Hell.. looking at the front page of this forum.. there's very little that's actually AUS-centric
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1. So you admit to the Aus/aus social bashing in the lounge, yet call us out on saying americans are fuckwits? I'm sorry. to me that doesn't follow :\

2. I have posted in the lounge on the very odd occasion and haven't exactly been welcomed with open arms. So do I take it upon myself to disrupt the flow ofthat forum and demand that it be changed to suit me? No, I simply post where I feel most comfortable

DigitalDuality said:
Then tell me something.

why does the board (for the most part) not give the European forums the same rash of shit? If i remember correctly, Americans stood up when Catch made the decision to close does Euro Social.

Oh that's right. They don't merely huddle away in EDD and rarely venture out elsewhere. Some of the best CEP contributions are from people not in the US. Dr Seus, Zorn, Zero the hero, just to name a few.

I can name 20 Europeans off the top of my head that actively participate in SLR, Second Opinion, The lounge. While they still have their regional forum, they don't segregate themselves.

And in all reality, i rarely speak with GL, or Finder. So your perception of that being a clique is a bit off. I do speak with RC, i do with BA. The only people i've notced that we're "cold" to in the lounge are absolute, without a doubt, beyond any level of subjectivity-- trolls.
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1. see point about me posting in the lounge above.


2. Heaps of australians who also post in aus social contribute to plenty of other forums on this site! That is a broad brush-stroke to be painting us with. Yes maybe at first people are more likely to stick in aus social as it's their comfort zone, but most people have other forums that they enjoy participating in as well.
 
You know...I really cannot get my head around what the issue is here.

Why do people who are not even from the forum's target geographic audience give a fuck what happens in it? I'm not being antagonistic, I just...don't get it.

Aus Social is designed for people in the Australasian geographic area. That's its purpose. This is why you will find elements of SLR, film & television, and other forums (including the Lounge), because outside of the locale this forum doesn't have one concrete focus area for its existence.

...Which is also why as a mod it's a pain in the ass sometimes making that call on whether something really fits in here or not. And yes, people may make the right or wrong decision in your viewpoint, but it's all subjective and generally I think the mods here do a fine job.

All that having been said...if you're not from here or visiting here, why do you care?? I honestly don't understand why non-Australians want Aus Social to have any relevance for them. This is not a segregationist point of view, it's just common sense. I don't go into North American Social and demand that it change to suit me, and you know why? Because whatever happens there has got nothing to do with me.

The Lounge, SLR and so on have to be able to support visitors from around the world because there is nothing about those forums which is area-specific. According to the description of the forum which is on the forum listing, Aus Social is Social discussion for Australia, New Zealand and Asia. If you don't like the way this forum is run and you're not actually in Australia, New Zealand or Asia, then a)why do you care, and b)why do you think you have a right to a say in how it's run?

I'm confused. :\

EDIT: I changed some of the wording so as not to appear antagonistic, because I'm not, I just really don't understand the rationale behind these complaints.

Also, something else I just thought of...DD, I think it's a bit rough attacking people for not using the forums you think they should. If somebody doesn't like the Lounge or CE&P or any other forum, why should they feel obliged to post there? Isn't it preferrable that people post in the forums they like and feel comfortable in, rather than going into the ones they don't and stirring up shit?

Anyway, I call bullshit on the "aussies are hiding in aus social" argument anyway. For the first year or so that I was here I didn't even know there WAS an Aus Social. And I still regularly visit other forums on this board, just as a lot of us do. Not that I see why any of us need to justify our posting habits to you anyway. Oh wait that's right because you're coming in to our forum and attacking us for them, that's why... 8(
 
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Actually Aus Social is about the third or fourth forum I visit when I log on.

1. Healthy Living
2. Sex, Love & Relationships
3. Aus Social or occasionally Film & TV
4. Aus DD
5. Staff Forum

And I pretty much post evenly amongst the top three; I can name heaps of others here who do too. Just 'cause we're not in the Lounge doesn't mean we're not about.
 
KemicalBurn said:
Ah yes ... How could i forget about the neighbours thread, the frown/smile threads, track of the moment, and car shopping?

Aus social isnt interesting enough to be in the same sentence as The Lounge or CE&P. Its more like a watered down Second Opinion.
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and the age-old adage rears its ugly head. if you don't like it - don't post here!

seriously KB - you have posted in this forum, you have actually even posted dare I say it "serious" answers to questions posed threads, and whether that was motivated by extreme boredom or whatever other excuse you're going to come up with I don't really care, because obviously it's not all bad.

I would find stasis more interesting than a lot of the lounge threads - but there are lots of people who find them hilarious. Same here - there are plenty of people who enjoy posting in aus social, in these boring, humourless threads.

And before I get accused of having a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude -- that's exactly why I started this thread to air constructive feedback. Aus social isn't perfect, but you finding it/saying it's uninteresting is not exactly earth shattering.
 
Raz said:
b)why do you think you have a right to an opinion?
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Read the first post in this thread again. Opinions were asked for. Everyone has the right to an opinion, what a really dumb thing to say.
 
Mary Poppins said:
and the age-old adage rears its ugly head. if you don't like it - don't post here!

And before I get accused of having a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude -- that's exactly why I started this thread to air constructive feedback. Aus social isn't perfect, but you finding it/saying it's uninteresting is not exactly earth shattering.
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I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science. - Ron Burgundy.

;)
 
Doppelganger said:
I do actually agree that we're too quick to close some threads. Like the controversial threads... They're popular because they're entertaining/ debateable... whatever.

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This STILL has not been addressed.

Yeah yeah, the shit threads get closed...thats true in every forum, depending on waht is viewed as "shit". But popular threads that are generating a lot of responses? Why? Thats the only feedback thingie I would like answered. That and lack of boobs.:)
 
^i think it's because controversial threads here often seem to end up in fights and personal attacks, and though more discussion might be needed/wanted, people aren't able to keep their heads level, and they get closed.

i see this as a problem with both the posters and mods, posters need to learn to keep calm, but mods could also be giving a few more warnings, editing posts etc before closing the threads.
 
Raving Loony said:
xtcxtc (an aussie) is the benefactor and he should be making the rules. If I was in his position, The Lounge would be split into regional area as well as it serves no great purpose. But oh well, I guess Lounge (and former) moderators are allowed to spread their message of hate as they please.
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He may be one of the main sponsors but the authority doesn't lie there.

The authority lies with the Administrators and the Moderators of this board. End of story. I mean, xtcxtc or even more to the point, Johnboy/Enlighten could veto or change anything they/we wanted on this board but they don't because they don't have any vested political interest in this board. They are just there to make sure it keeps hitting most of the harm reduction targets set out from the beginning and that nobody is telling the world about the 1000 pill collection they just scored and trying to solicit it to every mother fucker here.

Enlighten (and I know you only mentioned xtcxtc) is also primairly here to make sure the board stays running. The hardware and software needs to be maintained and paid for by someone and Enlighten is that body.

It should be understood that xtcxtc provide the funding to Enlighten and we are the ones who pay the bills. There are also other streams of income besides the funds that are well known, so don't put all your political eggs in one basket just yet.

Basically the Admins and Mods are the ones who make those decisions and the users provide the feedback.

It's unfortunate that there is a lot of mud slinging that goes on and threads like this even exsist. I'd like for someone to pinpoint when all this started happening, when I used to post in Aus Social a few years ago there wasn't nearly as much politics and b/s (correct me if I'm wrong here).
 
I luv you all, No seriously!

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Originally Posted by Beatlebot
Let's see.

You have big long threads that are based around getting to know each other.

You have to 'make a name for yourself' before anyone will take notice of you.

You have tight cliques.

As we have seen, you are very nasty and rude to newcomers.

No, you're not like the lounge at all.
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I know it seems like we have tight cliques and for the most part that my be true, but dont forget America is obviously bigger than Aust, and Bl'ers there are more widespread.
For a large % of Aust Bl'ers, we have made friendship groups outside and before BL, they socialise together most weekends and have a genuine friendship, so sorry if that comes across as cliques.


Also as SLM mentioned Aust Social is one of the last forums I read and comment, on a regular trip to BL, Most Aust BL'ers play a active role in other 'serious' and health concious forums.


Anyway Zephyr makes a good point thread closing needs to be addressed and serious lack of boobies ;)
 
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