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any successful occasional meth/heroin users?

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I make about 600 dollars a week, work hard, have a nice little apartment with t.v. and internet and everything.
I actually haven't even used for like two months ONLY BECAUSE i have no sources.
If i had a steady source i would definately still be using methamphetamine at least once every two weeks. I don't know if i'm what you call SUCCESSFUL, but i'm 23 making all right money and holding down my own. I have never used either meth or heroin every day.
 
a few times SWIM used meth, after getting off some ADD meds that contained mostly methalphanydate. but real meth is definatly a new game you gota be carefull with, never addicted, but also hated to quit it.
 
deaf eye said:
for me its a double edged sword ~ i wouldnt call myself a success but, ~ i can do a chipper and have a day or two of peaceful fun and stop , but then comes the heroin dreams, cravings , im not psychically addicted at the moment, but the shits in my brain and wont leave, like i can smoke ciggerattes when im partying and once the party stops, i stop smoking and not even think about them , but with heroin shits on my mind
when i get some money, its like hmmmmmm 8)
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lmaaoo.

Same with me, except for coke.

oooh christmas money, wonder how much my relatives would like to know what their money is going towards hehe ;)

8ball!@!@!@ 8(
 
Successfull can mean a lot of things. I have been a user for years and have found some of them not so addicting that I only used "every six months" or so. Like ecstacy and herion. BUT downsides are not just addiction. You can loose your children, spouse/girlfriend, freedom (by going to jail), and loose your job in one night. These drugs are cut different each time, therefore a different result. My friend tried herion once and she does EVERY drug, shes a meth addict. She almost died because of the contents in this batch of Dallas, TX herion. Just know that casual is dangerous. Dont regret loosing your job or going to jail to get high one night. Watch the movie "SPUN". A teenager tried meth for three days and WOW. It opened my eyes. Hope this helps.
Dallas Mom-26
 
never had a problem occasionally doing either. I'll have desires to repeat the experience when coming down and maybe the next day but I've never actively sought either of those drugs, only time I'd use them was if someone else brought it. I'm pretty sure most people have a weakness, even more so with methamphetamine and heroin, two incredibly potent euphoric CHEAP drugs.
 
microtel said:
been using opiates/heroin 10 years and no addiction
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Be careful, bro, one day you'll definitely, absolutely, positively, for sure and for certain catch the habit. Remember, heroin equals addiction 100% of the time, no exceptions. ;)
 
I used to use heroin daily and completely quit for 3 months, but for the past 6 months i've been nly doing it in the moment which is like once every 3 weeks to a month on average. Don't know if that will change but it's been enjoyable.
 
Haven't touched H in a while, but I'm about to go cop a fat sack of crushed diamondssssss, yummy shard! I've abstained for a long time.

glad I still got my use on lock. makes it alot more fun to use it, because it feels like a special occasion.
 
I have used opiates for 4 years, without having much problems. Mainly due to lack of access and the opiates I were using was mild, back then I only used codeine and hydrocodone. It was spaced out to on average one use every two months.

Fast forward to 2010, I had a steady supply to strong opiates, oxycodone, heroin, and after that I didn't run into any problems for 4 months. Then it caved in, and it got out of control.

I've also IV'd methamphetamine 3 times, but due to lack of access I didn't get hooked. I'm sure if I had access to it I would be banging meth every weekend.

-PLUR
 
Use heroin occasionally.... I really enjoy it and I can see how it can get out of hand easily. The only reason I'm not using everyday is because of lack of car so I can't really go to philly whenever I want to... I could take the bus but kind of crazy to do all the time. And I don't even want to bother buying dope where I live at. Been there, done that and its just some sketchy fucks who try to fuck you over or people trying to get you to buy rocks. Other than that I have a job and have been told I will be assistant manager soon. I also am going to college in the fall (hopefully I'm kind of thinking about saying fuck it right now but I'm sure ill go). I also am moving out in the summer (I'm eighteen). So I'm pretty happy with things so far but I'm kind of thinking about stopping now before it gets out of hand... I mean I could but I don't know if I will. If I don't then I'm going to be addicted to dope and then ill have to use amps to make it through my day lmao. Ahhh.
 
MusicGuy said:
The key is control and moderation. I have a keen love for psychedelics and stimulants. I've used amphetamines, opiates, and other drugs for weeks on end then stopped without issue. Mind over matter people.
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That's easier said than done, no? I'm not sure that there is a key, exactly, to avoiding dependence and addiction. If there were, then we'd be talking about it a lot more. You can take some precautions, and you can try to use only moderately, but at the end of the day, it's still a crap shoot. If you're generically-predisposed, if your personality type is one prone to habit-forming or addictive behavior, or of it's simply what's in the cards for you, then that's that and there's really no regimen you can follow, no amount of self-discipline that can save you. That's why making the decision to experiment with addictive substances is not one to be taken lightly. It's something that one should think long and hard about.
 
verso said:
That's easier said than done, no? I'm not sure that there is a key, exactly, to avoiding dependence and addiction. If there were, then we'd be talking about it a lot more. You can take some precautions, and you can try to use only moderately, but at the end of the day, it's still a crap shoot. If you're generically-predisposed, if your personality type is one prone to habit-forming or addictive behavior, or of it's simply what's in the cards for you, then that's that and there's really no regimen you can follow, no amount of self-discipline that can save you. That's why making the decision to experiment with addictive substances is not one to be taken lightly. It's something that one should think long and hard about.
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Exactly, like Lou Reed said "I have made.. A big decision"

I actually think that trying to avoid a physical addiction with opiates would be more painful than trying to lead a functioning life as an opiate dependant person. I hear people all the time just trying to "avoid a habit", and their lives seem more fucked up than those that need the junk to get by. Just imagine forcing yourself to use once a week...I know if it was me, I'd just be living for that one day, which is not a way to live (I guess being strung out is no way to live either, but at least the obsession is sattisfied if you're functional). For those who can use once, twice a week, and lead happy lives, I respect and admire youre will power, I just don't have it.

And if you use once a week, and you're spending all that time thinking about Friday night, I don't really consider that using succesfully either. It's just succesfully avoiding a bad habit.
 
Managed to successfully use meth occasionally without getting addicted but not so with opiates. It's just for me whenever I do meth I feel so shitty on the come down that I don't want to touch anything remotely like it for like a month. I get offered tweak all the time too, My friends will pass me a pipe and I'll say "fuck no, I just did that shit like a week ago..." as I'm loading up a rig with H.
 
Znegative said:
Exactly, like Lou Reed said "I have made.. A big decision"

I actually think that trying to avoid a physical addiction with opiates would be more painful than trying to lead a functioning life as an opiate dependant person. I hear people all the time just trying to "avoid a habit", and their lives seem more fucked up than those that need the junk to get by. Just imagine forcing yourself to use once a week...I know if it was me, I'd just be living for that one day, which is not a way to live (I guess being strung out is no way to live either, but at least the obsession is sattisfied if you're functional). For those who can use once, twice a week, and lead happy lives, I respect and admire youre will power, I just don't have it.

And if you use once a week, and you're spending all that time thinking about Friday night, I don't really consider that using succesfully either. It's just succesfully avoiding a bad habit.
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A common trend with those of us that use these occasionally is that we usually fill the gap between uses with another drug. I was a really heavy drinker when I wasn't using opiates, but now that I use again, I don't drink. I have heard of a lot of people that do the same. I was getting blackout drunk all the time, and it was like I was doing that so I didn't have to deal with not having any opiates. Weed actually helped me drink less and become more content with my state of mind, so once I rediscovered it I stopped drinking to the point of blacking out, and I was suddenly the responsible one of the group. I wish I could just be a pothead again, but since I'm looking for a job and that shit stays in your system forever, I gave it up after graduating.

I get what you are saying about it almost being worse to use occasionally as opposed to more frequent use. The occasional use usually isn't that deep into the game so usually pays a lot more for their dope than the daily users. If I don't goto my usual connect, I end up paying double what the bags go for in the city, but since I'm an occasional user I tell myself that I am better off without the direct connect. I have been offered the connects, but always said I was trying to cut back so it wouldn't be a good idea, so I continued to pay tax through middlemen.

Occasional users and daily users end up paying about the same amount to afford their habits. The daily users just middleman to get their dope for a lot less each time, so their lives are a lot more hectic in that aspect, and it's a lot harder to leave the game when you are that involved. With occasional use though, the only difference in my life if I were to be quitting would be not making that phone call twice a week for that dope delivery.

At the end of the day, if you still have the "______ would be better if I was high on dope" mentality, things aren't that much better off if you are using occasionally as opposed to daily. It's the same as being a "dry drunk" really. The reason that I cut back to using less was so that I could actually get high and keep my tolerance low, as opposed to daily users that mostly keep the sick away and only get high the few times that they have the funds to do so.
 
^oh yeah man, I totally understand and respect that reasoning, I think I might not have articulated my point quite well enough, but yeah, I was basically getting at that "dry drunk" mentality you brought up. I've always been the same way, when I've stopped using heroin/opiates, I usually fall back on benzo's and stimulants. I tried the weed thing out this past summer, and it didn't work too well for me, as I got paranoid as hell, and I'd usually throw up on top of it from all the alchohol I was also using to try and stuff down those dope cravings. It's definately a struggle...
 
ROA? You mean my method of taking it? Smoke it in a glass pipe.
Funny how different cultures use this drug. Most American movies display users injecting or snorting but everyone I know (in Australia) smoke in what we call a "cracky" which I have since learnt is nothing like what Americans call a crack pipe.
Maybe our stuff is made differently, I understand aussie stuff is nowhere as potent but the word around here is that the stuff gives you ulcers if it comes into contact with your nose or mouth hence why we smoke.

hmmm

Have seen SPUN, one of my all time favourite films but even SPUN has alot of wrong information in it.

Maybe method makes a difference?
I don't know much about Heroin but a mate of mine used to smoke it on foil socially, got abit silly with it and said he would quit and has never touched it since. Is smoking it perhaps less fiendish?

Znegative said:
Exactly, like Lou Reed said "I have made.. A big decision"

I actually think that trying to avoid a physical addiction with opiates would be more painful than trying to lead a functioning life as an opiate dependant person. I hear people all the time just trying to "avoid a habit", and their lives seem more fucked up than those that need the junk to get by. Just imagine forcing yourself to use once a week...I know if it was me, I'd just be living for that one day, which is not a way to live (I guess being strung out is no way to live either, but at least the obsession is sattisfied if you're functional). For those who can use once, twice a week, and lead happy lives, I respect and admire youre will power, I just don't have it.

And if you use once a week, and you're spending all that time thinking about Friday night, I don't really consider that using succesfully either. It's just succesfully avoiding a bad habit.
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I totally agree, it does make it worse and your more of a mess waiting for the day and end up caving in and starting thursday night which equals feeling really shitty at work the next day or having to pull a sicky. My partner and I decided years ago not to plan our nights but to let them just happen when were with the right people, right setting and stuff is easily available. Some weeks we end up having a dabble (just a line or toke after dinner) nearly 6 nights and other times we can go months without anything and in turn enjoy it more when it suddenly pops up at a party with friends.
 
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i do 2 grams per wk on 2 seperate days and have for almost 4 years now, it helps that i cant score where i live and have to travel for it and also am full time carer for disabled wife so cant afford to fuck up. Had many habbits over the years
and tried not using at all but it never lasts, this seems to work for me and always have something to look forward to
 
I'm the same as Captain H on this one, I had all the classic addiction problems with heroin. I probably just am not allured by meth in the same way, or I was already addicted to h and that was my main thing. I liked smoking meth, but whenever I shot it with my h it always seemed to hurt my arm, even when I registered. Coke always gave me a better rush.

I'd like to think there are people out there who do heroin 10-30 times in their lives, and never develop a problem, or never crave a single second. I won't rule it out, but I also see a lot of people unable to be at all open to the idea of an addiction because they evaluate their use of heroin/meth up to that minute in their life. I've known junkies in their teens, and junkies in their 60s, each demographic started with years of chipping, and within those years a deceiving confidence they were in some way outside of the human condition of addiction, or they were simply being very careful. People do it for 5 years, and no habit, it is not uncommon. But like some Faulkner character, they all tell their human story of addiction eventually in their life, the one's I know at least.

I'm not saying I personally don't know a few people who have tasted and not spent considerable time away. But I am saying I'll reserve my congratulations until their conclusion, that is, their non-heroin/meth-based conclusions.
 
*By Faulkner character, I meant their belief they exist outside the human condition is their undoing.

*Also, I meant they develop a self-deluding confidence, in many cases, which obscures their addiction problems.

Sorry.
 
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