RCs 3-MMC (3-Methylmethcathinone) Megathread (v1)

[Buzz Lightbeer]

The first stuff yea mate. Was like chalk ,wet chalk. This recent batch is crystalline powder off white going on tan

Yeah same experience here. Eventually threw it away.
Other batches were always white and crystally, those were much better, no matter the ROA (when I have 3-MMC, I'll normally mix snorting & taking it orally)

 

[callilolleve]

Yeah same experience here. Eventually threw it away.
Other batches were always white and crystally, those were much better, no matter the ROA (when I have 3-MMC, I'll normally mix snorting & taking it orally)

 

[callilolleve]

Yea man orally big dose then sniff till done...all my mates are coke heads and they loved it

 

[spirale]

Hello. The answer to my question should be somewhere but didnt find it.

I am a stim/cath noobie. My question is: is it normal for the heart to pound faster on the come down than in the plateau? It seems counter-intuitive to me. If so, what are the mechanisms behind it?

writing on a 3mmc come down here, so I feel like its still part of this thread and could be informative.

It's my first post so I dont know where to go yet.

 

[infowarrior807]

Yeah same experience here. Eventually threw it away.
Other batches were always white and crystally, those were much better, no matter the ROA (when I have 3-MMC, I'll normally mix snorting & taking it orally)

so i shouldnt do anymore like mdma varys wildly in how it can look so i would assume that 3mmc can too

 

[infowarrior807]

Was the powder kinda wet and clumping together? I've had batches like that

and how was it because that what mine is like

 

[infowarrior807]

This is probably not for you then. I don't know how experienced you are with Cathinones, but 3MMC is basically a non-empathogenic, non-coke-like version of 4mmc. Its not "bad" but there are a lot better stims out there for sale. 3-MMC causes me a lot of "head cloudiness", lack of focus, and no empathogenic qualities at all. If you can find some 4MMC (which would be a darn hard task) that's what I would go for.

In all honesty, what you are describing is basically good Cocaine. Unfortunately, theres nothing out there right now quite like coke on the RC market. That said...

I would recommend checking out 2-FMA, or perhaps alpha-PVP (if you want to venture into the dark side.) 2FMA is a better choice, but a-PVP will give you a better rush, just watch out because youll end up awake for 80 hours hallucinating your neighbors breaking into your house.

4-FA might also suit your needs, but it is a tad bit "rolly" compared to normal stims.

Just my two cents.

i think you just helped me figure out what shit my dad gave me that almost killed me and made me insane for 3 days

 

[infowarrior807]

Hello. The answer to my question should be somewhere but didnt find it.

I am a stim/cath noobie. My question is: is it normal for the heart to pound faster on the come down than in the plateau? It seems counter-intuitive to me. If so, what are the mechanisms behind it?

writing on a 3mmc come down here, so I feel like its still part of this thread and could be informative.

It's my first post so I dont know where to go yet.

what did yours look like

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Hello. The answer to my question should be somewhere but didnt find it.

I am a stim/cath noobie. My question is: is it normal for the heart to pound faster on the come down than in the plateau? It seems counter-intuitive to me. If so, what are the mechanisms behind it?

writing on a 3mmc come down here, so I feel like its still part of this thread and could be informative.

It's my first post so I dont know where to go yet.

Yes, also my experience, it's feels super bad for your heart.

A friend of mine had another batch of 3-MMC recently, of which I tried 2 oral doses, again very disappointing (he has hardly used any cathinones so that isn't the issue), it was from a vendor whose previous batch was amazing. I don't know what the issue is exactly, maybe a different synthesis route but my advice would be to simply not bother anymore, it still feels and is massively addicting and unhealthy but the amount of fun in return is minimal.

 

[Justchillz]

I don't know what that is with this 3-MMC lately. Seems like the real stuff can't be found anymore! Most vendors send me another cathinone. It smells different, it's more stimmy, there is no rush and sometimes my teeth go numb. I also look more drugged.
These are side effects that normally don't appear!
@Buzz Lightbeer my friend had exact the same experience! Previous batch was top and last order was that stimmy shit. #planet

 

[SuperCabbage]

I found that 3-MMC on the threshold dosage (50mg, oral) can cause significant reduce of bleeding during menstruation, I thought this was merely due to vasoconstriction, then it should resume to normal the next day, however it didn’t, meaning that there are probably hormones at play. This observation which I initially thought it to be inconsistent with the theory that neurotransmitters are depleted after drug use (If that’s the case there will not be HPA axis overactivated or release of glucocorticoids which can inhibit the sex hormones). Or, there must be another mechanism.

I also observed the curious elevation in heart rate during comedown, to try to explain both phenomenon and without refuting the existing theory, I proposed a hypothesis that the drug in its high concentration somehow causes L-tyrosine accumulation (prevents it from being converted to anything else or participating in any reactions). When the concentration of the drug begin to decrease, its own effect on neurotransmitters that may cause increased heart rate gets weaker, at the same time it no longer can withhold L-tyrosine, then the accumulated L-tyrosine can be converted to dopamine and norepinephrine in a faster than normal rate (because chemical equilibrium shifting to the products is faster when concentrations of reactants are higher) which is responsible for heart rate increase during comedown, (so it delays neurotransmitter depletion for a while but not for long, as the drug being mostly worn out, the extra L-tyrosine is also used up.

And according to an old textbook, injected L-tyrosine (since it gets into the blood, a drastic increase in L-tyrosine level from internal sources has the same effect as injected L-tyrosine) significantly raises prolactin concentration which, also according to that textbook, higher than normal level of prolactin has an inhibitory effect on menstruation in a timescale of several hours to several days.

In a molecular scale, there is a tertiary carbon atom between carbonyl carbon and nitrogen in both 3-MMC and L-tyrosine, creating very similar 3 dimensional shape. This Aromatic L Amino Acid Decarboxylase (which converts L-tyrosine to an intermediate which then can be converted to a catecholamine) seems to bind to the amino group and the carbonyl group leaving the phenyl ring outside the binding domain (see the diagram in Wiki), we may say that regardless of where the phenyl ring is located in the molecule, it doesn’t matter because it’s sticking outwards, any molecule with the amino group and the carbonyl group arranging in this certain shape that L-tyrosine has can bind to the enzyme, and thus blocking the site so the enzyme cannot process L-tyrosine.

This hypothesis is compatible with the theory that neurotransmitters are depleted afterwards, although prolactin affects the sensitivity of dopamine receptors, the neurotransmitter is literally “depleted” according to the theory, so the receptor sensitivity is no longer at play.

Nowadays in other forums people don’t discuss effects of 3-MMC since it’s got scheduled in many countries…don’t know if the academia has any interests in this class of substance, but if by any chance a potential researcher/future researcher/former researcher/whatever sees this and thinks this makes a little bit of sense, feel free to take my hypothesis.

 

[cosmical]

SWIM stands for "someone who is me" (we don't swim on here).
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According to what data?

ebola

About 4fmc if anybody still have questions. Its methamphetamine-like cathinone, very very weak. It has been tested by several people, including me, because many years ago I had fix-idea what it could be cool actually. Synthesed by myself, so it was truly 4fmc nothing else

 

[Kodeisko]

Hello you all, just planning to order some 3-MMC for a double birthday for the coming weekend, but i have 3 choices (am from europe) and would know if you know which is the top quality or which we should avoid :
3-MMC Yellow/White rocks (a bit more expensive than powder and pellets)
3-MMC powder
3-MMC 180mg pellets
Thanks if you know !

 

[Kodeisko]

Don't know if it's out of the rules to mention availability like that (my post have been removed on r/researchchemicals) if yes i apologize

 

[abc1986]

I hope it hasn't been too long to be considered thread necro

A lot of y'all's opinions seem to be coming from stim. veterans. My experience is occasional X of varying purity's from really rolly to totally meth'd out way back in college, amphetamine 3/4's detro 1/4 levo, methylphenidate, and the combination of selegiline and phenethylamine.

The last one was by the far the most intense and outrageously sexual at high doses as in watch a sexy music video and nut untouched sorry if that's tmi and extremely moreish, and cause paranoia towards the tail end of the experience. It was the only one that would have me up 48 hours and more at a time. It was also immensely destructive so I don't actually want anything that intense and euphoric.

I've got 3-MMC on the way, is it relatable to any of what I've mentioned in anyway in your experience or a combination? I'm not trying to replicated a certain stim. I've tried in the past, I'll just do my best to enjoy it for what it is, but it would be nice to have a little better idea of what I'm getting into. Yeah, I've read the thread, I'm just trying to relate it to my experience.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

I hope it hasn't been too long to be considered thread necro

A lot of y'all's opinions seem to be coming from stim. veterans. My experience is occasional X of varying purity's from really rolly to totally meth'd out way back in college, amphetamine 3/4's detro 1/4 levo, methylphenidate, and the combination of selegiline and phenethylamine.

The last one was by the far the most intense and outrageously sexual at high doses as in watch a sexy music video and nut untouched sorry if that's tmi and extremely moreish, and cause paranoia towards the tail end of the experience. It was the only one that would have me up 48 hours and more at a time. It was also immensely destructive so I don't actually want anything that intense and euphoric.

I've got 3-MMC on the way, is it relatable to any of what I've mentioned in anyway in your experience or a combination? I'm not trying to replicated a certain stim. I've tried in the past, I'll just do my best to enjoy it for what it is, but it would be nice to have a little better idea of what I'm getting into. Yeah, I've read the thread, I'm just trying to relate it to my experience.

3-MMC will be very moreish yes, I'd advise you not to snort it, it's not as fun and even more addicting. You can stay up for very long easily, so do have benzos on hand because residual stimulation can be rough. It's much harder on the body than amphetamine, and especially rough on your cardiovascular system, you shouldn't binge at all but you're gonna need some willpower for that.
The last x times I've tried it, the batch was terrible, it's a different texture than what I regard as true 3-MMC too, and not as euphoric, stimulating and fun, I'm not the only one and it's not due to abuse. Apart from it not being as fun it's still incredibly moreish, even moreso than 4-MMC ime, probably due to increased dopamine release.

 

[abc1986]

Would phenibut work as well as benzos? For both practical use for GAD and recreational use, I like phenibut a lot better b/c it improves mood more and increases euphoria with alcohol more at recreational doses, at functional doses causes less sedation, and at recreational doses causes less impulsiveness and far less likely to keep redosing and not have memory blackouts, and tolerance builds a lot slower in my experience.

 

[Vagabond696]

Really want to try 3-MMC but it seems to be unavailable down under. Sad.

 

[Neuroborean]

Hello. The answer to my question should be somewhere but didnt find it.

I am a stim/cath noobie. My question is: is it normal for the heart to pound faster on the come down than in the plateau? It seems counter-intuitive to me. If so, what are the mechanisms behind it?

writing on a 3mmc come down here, so I feel like its still part of this thread and could be informative.

It's my first post so I dont know where to go yet.

yes, is completely normal that your heart pounds faster on the comedown, it is common within cathinones imo.

Hello you all, just planning to order some 3-MMC for a double birthday for the coming weekend, but i have 3 choices (am from europe) and would know if you know which is the top quality or which we should avoid :
3-MMC Yellow/White rocks (a bit more expensive than powder and pellets)
3-MMC powder
3-MMC 180mg pellets
Thanks if you know !

I tried the yellow/white and I hated it honestly, probably the pellets would be the stronger by weight since I guess they come from the reptiles (don't ask). I read about the powder and seems to be ok but you need a big dose. The rocks are beautiful and seem nice at first but they are so weak in my experience. I felt the half of what I felt with another vendor's product. The white/yellow rocks are a dopamine rush, without sexual urges (that 3mmc/4mmc is well known for) and then a sloppy serotonin flood that feels quite apathetic, not a good batch.

 

[abc1986]

Oh boy... the hangover it's as bad as X for me both in severeness and length. Like do it all night Friday and not really be functional again until Monday morning. Fortunately I had Friday off so I took it Thursday night since I've got stuff to do on Sunday. There aren't many times I can just lose a weekend like that.... At least I don't have the crazy muscle soreness I get from amp.

It wasn't entactogenic but there was a chill everything in it's right place vibe with it that I liked reminiscent of rolling. It didn't turn me into a horndog nearly as much I thought it would. Not as much as amphetamine or definitely not as much as selegiline plus PEA. Euphoria on par w/ the latter and compulsive redosing between those two. And very very little muscle tension! Dose has to get really high before there's any heart pitter patter that has me close my eyes and lay still. It didn't cause anxiety at any point and there wasn't any OCD like things happening with it other than redosing.

I went through 2g in the night thinking I'd go through 0.5g. It wasn't as strong as I thought and it's very moreish. My first dose was oral 250 which felt nice but I wanted to see where I could take things. I eventually insufflated 250mg on the tapering end of a prior dose. That was a little uncomfortable for a few minutes but passed. Other snorted doses were between 120-200mg. In case I got a weak batch, if I get this again I'll snort 100mg to start off with so even if what I got was pure I'll still get some rush and euphoria and a really nice time if my batch was cut.

This has been the only thing I've snorted that's caused a nosebleed and I had a really sore throat the next day from the drip. Snorting was doable by snorting a little water into my nose a few minutes after.