• Psychedelic Drugs Welcome Guest
    View threads about
    Posting RulesBluelight Rules
    PD's Best Threads Index
    Social ThreadSupport Bluelight
    Psychedelic Beginner's FAQ
  • PD Moderators: Esperighanto | JackARoe | Cheshire_Kat

Phenethylamines [2C-E Subthread] 2C-E Dosage and Methods of Administration

only thing i could guess is your 2ce isnt pure.
20 mg of 2ce should blow most people away. hard head or not.

might want to get a new supplier and then try some
 
I got some supposed "2ce" a while back that I've found to be some pretty weak sauce. Perhaps you had the same misfortune. The fake 2ce I got causes some psychedlic effects but nothing paticularly solid even at what should be strong doses.

I have some 2ce from another vendor that is much more potent.

I'd suspect that your 2ce is simply bunk or cut with something.
 
Plugging 2ce- Up's and downs

So lately my girlfriend and I have been exploring 2ce on about a weekly basis. To help save on our supply we decided to experiment with the route of plugging, using 2 differant methods.


The first method is simply putting the powder in a gelcap, wetting it, and shoving it finger deep into the anus. This method is relatively simple but has a downside of feeling very much like one needs to poop. One starts to feel the effects within about 30 minutes and they build over the next hour, peeking soon thereafter, as soon as the 2ce begins to peek the sensation of having to poop also seems to abate.

The second method we've been using is dissolving the 2ce in a small ammount of water (about 1ml) and then using a syringe to "inject" the mixture into the anal cavity.

There is some sensation of having to poop for about 20 minutes or so, but the really interesting thing about this one is how quickly one begins to trip. It generally takes less then 10 minutes to get a solid trip going and it's STRONG. The peak of the drug however seems drastically shortned, cut down to maybe an hour or so before one starts to come down rather rapidly. The feeling of the rapid come up is most interesting, almost overwhelminglu fast.


My experimentation thus far leads me to believe that orally is the best way to have longer lasting more meaningful experiances.

Gelcapping allows for only somewhat shorter experiances and only requires approx half the material to get as far as orally.

The syringe method can put you out of your head quite quickly with about half the material but has a relatively rapid descent.

Both the plugged methods produce unpleasant having to poop sensations but they are tolerable.

One will need to decide if the uncomfortable downsides are worth the percieved positives of plugging.

Hope this information is helpful to someone.
 
I've tried a couple different batches, and 30mg while strong, isn't overly intense..

My first trial at 20mg was barely noticeable. Tried a broad range of doses from that batch (up to 50mg - with tolerance). This other stuff, 30mg was really strong, but nothing like the more common reports of ~20mg blowing peoples heads off.

I'm fairly confident that one of the two batches (different companies) was relatively pure, if not both times.. So I think there is such a thing as being hard headed with 2C-E (and, if you are with a lot of other chems, why not this one too?).

That being said, don't get all bravado and do a massive dose expecting it to be weak. Work your way up in small increments.
 
I found I had no tolerance to 2c-e when I started my trials with it. 5mg would provide a definite threshold. After several years of trips with it, I have found now 12mg will give me the same effect that 5 used too. With a tolerance, I use 40-50mg in a cap each year for the warped tour.
I did not get a tolerance to it for at least 20 trips though.

I think you got low purity samples, and it is about 35-40% cut given the description.
 
I've had 2c-e from 3 different batches, each from different sources. I seem to do best around 30mg. Fairly strong trip, still manageable though.

I drink alcohol fairly regularly, I wonder if my tolerance to ethyl alcohol is in any way related to my tolerance to 2c-e...
 
Well, I don't know about the tolerance for sure.. But, I used 5 times in 8 days, each time a substantially larger amount. That was the first stuff though.

This second batch I've only used twice, 20mg (on 5-MeO-DALT) and 30mg. 30mg of this stuff was comparable to ~40-45 of the other stuff (3rd or 4th time of the 5 in a week).

I can't comment on the purity as I didn't have it tested or anything, but it was only I that required such large amounts. 20mg (from the first stuff) made a friend of mine swear off all drugs about 7 months ago. 15mg was plenty, too much in fact for a couple others.. So, that leads me to believe it was fairly pure (not completely!), and that I'm fairly hardheaded
 
I've done 2C-E numerous times from a supplier I suspect sells weak chems. Not much other experience with it considering I've only done it once otherwise and don't even know what dose. I'm not all too hardheaded with psychs, but I tend to handle myself really well on them; it's a fine line.

I measure my product really halfassedly without a scale. Largest dose I imagine I've ever done is around the 20-25mg range, so take that for what it's worth. It's hard to speak on its potency because I have not once been in danger of being overpowered, but I've had many immersive, productive experiences the likes of which no other psychedelic has ever granted me. In this way I consider my doses of 2C-E amazing, perhaps the most amazingly useful I've ever done, but certainly not the most inebriating; the chem does not 'fuck me up.'

perhaps when I sample 2C-E from elsewhere I will have more to say on those who claim the chem has absolutely overwhelmed them. For now I sorta just write it off. All I can say in regards to this issue and your apparent tolerance is that there's far more to a psychedelic experience than how far it distances you from coherency. Be safe.

edit: btw, I'm not some ass enthusiast by any means, but plugging 2C-E is excellent. Shed your misconceptions and consider it.
 
Impure batch is always a possibility, but on the other hand a couple of friends did the same batch (15mg and 20mg) and they both had a blast. Another foaf found 18mg from the same batch "extremely visual".
 
Great summary. The key thing is that everyone reacts quite differently, so I'll add my own comments here to further elaborate.

I've found plugging 2c chems advantageous mostly for reducing body load. I had almost sworn off 2cs until I tried plugging. The difference is incredible. No g-i discomfort, and much less of the long shakey laborious come-up. Now I will use no other method.

I have only tried the syringe method. I just assumed it would take too long for the gel cap to dissolve in the rectum, but good to know it has worked for you. The syringe method only works if you are at home or somewhere equally as comfortable, so gelcapping provides more options.

As far as come up, on average, I find it takes about 20 minutes for me, peaking at about the one hour point with about a one hour plateau, and then a nice gradual decline. My experiences do not seem to be as shortened as your's. One time, I plugged 12 mg of 2c-e and travelled quite strongly for about 6 hours, although I did ingest an E tab after the one hour point and this no doubt had some potentiating effect. An amazing combo.

My girlfriend however, who has only plugged 2c-t-2, and only once, came up so fast and so hard, she was rendered horizontal on the couch in 5 minutes, and had a fairly unpleasant ride. It was a bit frightening, because it seemed to be quicker and more intense than snorting.

As for the "having to poop sensations", yes they are a drag, but I find it passes after about a half hour or so as well, and the advantages of the method outweigh this minor difficulty.
 
Merged 2 new 2C-E threads into here... remember, please post new questions/comments about 2C-E into this thread (and the same goes for every substance). The only exceptions are for very unusual comments or questions. But plugging is quite covered and should not be created as a new thread.

Let's keep it clean in here, folks =D

mooncaller said:
So lately my girlfriend and I have been exploring 2ce on about a weekly basis. To help save on our supply we decided to experiment with the route of plugging, using 2 differant methods.


The first method is simply putting the powder in a gelcap, wetting it, and shoving it finger deep into the anus. This method is relatively simple but has a downside of feeling very much like one needs to poop. One starts to feel the effects within about 30 minutes and they build over the next hour, peeking soon thereafter, as soon as the 2ce begins to peek the sensation of having to poop also seems to abate.

The second method we've been using is dissolving the 2ce in a small ammount of water (about 1ml) and then using a syringe to "inject" the mixture into the anal cavity.

There is some sensation of having to poop for about 20 minutes or so, but the really interesting thing about this one is how quickly one begins to trip. It generally takes less then 10 minutes to get a solid trip going and it's STRONG. The peak of the drug however seems drastically shortned, cut down to maybe an hour or so before one starts to come down rather rapidly. The feeling of the rapid come up is most interesting, almost overwhelminglu fast.


My experimentation thus far leads me to believe that orally is the best way to have longer lasting more meaningful experiances.

Gelcapping allows for only somewhat shorter experiances and only requires approx half the material to get as far as orally.

The syringe method can put you out of your head quite quickly with about half the material but has a relatively rapid descent.

Both the plugged methods produce unpleasant having to poop sensations but they are tolerable.

One will need to decide if the uncomfortable downsides are worth the percieved positives of plugging.

Hope this information is helpful to someone.
Click to expand...

I've also noticed that plugging is a huge advantage over oral in almost every case, especially with the 2Cs. It can be slightly unpleasant, but it's worth it to avoid the nasty physical come-ups and anxiety and nausea that can accompany oral 2C-X trips.
 
I was considering trying this soon, do I just measure out x amount of milligrams and toss em on my tongue? or can I throw em in water and drink it down that way?
 
Either way! I like to dissolve them in water for quicker absorbtion, or dissolve the powder on my tongue and absorb some of it through the cheeks.

Just make sure you've got a good scale if you're weighing out individual doses.
 
Currently coming up on 30 mgs 2C-E. This is the most I've done so far and the first time I've done it without cannabis, and I must say the nausea is pretty overwhelming. I've thrown up three times already.
 
I'm planning on doing 2c-e tonight for the first time. Dosing around 10 more then likely. What do you think is a good dose for me? 10mg, so I can get a feel?
 
^^I did 11 the first time and It was perfect it took me right to the edge so I had a good feel for it but wasn’t immersed in it. I would say 10 is good.
 
morninggloryseed said:
In PIHKAL, as well as other places, it is well noted that for many, 10mg of 2C-E is plenty for a full trip (+3 experience.)
Click to expand...
hmm... I might aim for 8mg then then have 2mg to save at the peak to snort.
 
Cloudy said:
hmm... I might aim for 8mg then then have 2mg to save at the peak to snort.
Click to expand...

I snorted 2mg of 2ce one time and regretted it instantly. Jesus that shit burns.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top