perfection5712
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thats what i thought but from what ive heard it wasnt an especially low dose , ccertainly not for a first timer
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Phenethylamines [2C-E Subthread] 2C-E Dosage and Methods of Administration
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MagickalKat777
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Acid no. Bromo meaning what? 2C-B, 2C-B-Fly, or BromodragonFLY? Or something else?
sigmablackout
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If you must snort 2c-e, do 5-8 mg in each nostril and u will trip hard and fast and it will burn so bad you won't believe. Try plugging it instead, it works quite well if you are comfortable with it.
I personally like snorting it better. But I do 1-2 mg every ten minutes or so until I've hit the dose I want to do. I've experienced no burn at all, and it does hit right away. It does not last as long as taken orally, which I like, but you also have to use less to get generally the same affects.
2112acid
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I just tried messing around with 2c-e this month, my first trip i only dosed like 14-15mg. It was a very relaxing trip, but didnt offer many great visuals that i read about it. I administered it orally, would someone recommend a diffrent dose or a diffrent way of administering it?
Thorns Have Roses
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I think the next step would be ~18-20mg, some people prefer as high as 30+mg for this substance, but that's way too intense for many, so be conservative in your dosage increases. As for the visuals, I personally don't get much from the substance by itself, but find cannabinoids really bring them out.
I'd stick with oral administration for now at least.
blauwelichten
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I did some of this last week, after a heavy weekend of 4fa and ecstasy, I was going over a few things in my head and kind of got stuck in a loop almost a trance like state, I stuck some of this in a rizla not measured, too much, and while I didnt enjoy the psychedelic side of things, I found it boring and stupid, lots of flashing shit, not much patterns, it also made me feel pretty sick for a while, but it smacked my wandering mind (Im a thinker and a dreamer) straight slap bang into reality, and stuff that had been on my mind and unresolved for a while became resolved. It grounded my thoughts, rather than sent them flying. Id also taken some 4fa that didnt really work, and it potentiated it excellently.
One one level I dont like it but the fact that it grounded my thoughts is really interesting, because it was the last thing Id expect. Im not sure whether youd consider this ego loss or not, but what I felt on 2ce, Id expected to find on dpt but never happened. Its the first time its happened, and the effect has been absolutely positive.
One one level I dont like it but the fact that it grounded my thoughts is really interesting, because it was the last thing Id expect. Im not sure whether youd consider this ego loss or not, but what I felt on 2ce, Id expected to find on dpt but never happened. Its the first time its happened, and the effect has been absolutely positive.
I'm thinking of giving 2c-e a go for the third time. 1st time I did it was oral 12mg (after a failed attempt at plugging it), second time was 6mg snorted, in the middle of an AMT trip.
Exactly how painful is snorting 2c-e while sober? I've snorted Meph before and that was pretty painful, is it about the same or even worse? The first time I snorted it I was at the peak of my AMT trip and had also consumed a lot of alcohol, so I didn't really feel all that much pain. However, the person I snorted the 2c-e with found it too painful to actually finish his line.
Exactly how painful is snorting 2c-e while sober? I've snorted Meph before and that was pretty painful, is it about the same or even worse? The first time I snorted it I was at the peak of my AMT trip and had also consumed a lot of alcohol, so I didn't really feel all that much pain. However, the person I snorted the 2c-e with found it too painful to actually finish his line.
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the amount of discomfort in snorting 2ce is relative to how much you do. When I snorted 5mg it burned but it was manageable and there was no dramatic nausea or body load. But when I snorted 12 mg the pain was sigificantly worse although since it subsided in about 10 minutes it wasnt a big deal. However the body load and nausea was rather intense and Im surprised I didnt puke. Although once the peak hit on this large dose the nausea left as well as the body load. This may have been due to the overall intensity of the experience. After this trip I slept for 14 hours. My suggestion is just keep the dosage low if your gonna snort it, like 4-8mg. It wont hurt as much and will be more fun.
the amount of discomfort in snorting 2ce is relative to how much you do. When I snorted 5mg it burned but it was manageable and there was no dramatic nausea or body load. But when I snorted 12 mg the pain was sigificantly worse although since it subsided in about 10 minutes it wasnt a big deal. However the body load and nausea was rather intense and Im surprised I didnt puke. Although once the peak hit on this large dose the nausea left as well as the body load. This may have been due to the overall intensity of the experience. After this trip I slept for 14 hours. My suggestion is just keep the dosage low if your gonna snort it, like 4-8mg. It wont hurt as much and will be more fun.
MagickalKat777
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I'm kinda thinking about snorting it... I just wonder how much more stimulating/visual it is this way.
Depressicaa
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Well if you stick it in your butt make sure its not on the outside, it burns everywhere.
Snorting it isn't that bad though, I don't get more of either, the onset is faster for me.
Snorting it isn't that bad though, I don't get more of either, the onset is faster for me.
MagickalKat777
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I've decided on 25mg diphenhydramine but I'm unsure about what dose would be good for rectal... was thinking 20mg oral...
DwayneHoover
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Dude, just swallow the Benedryl.
And DEFINITELY swallow the 2C-E. ALL reports and recommendations are that snorting 2C compounds is always quite risky. I would think that the same would be true for all "extra high speed routes of absorption" methods like rectal. I they they are just so stimulating that theres a dangerous risk of overwhelming your systems' ability to adjust and adapt in a safe way.
There will ALWAYS be other chances... why snort and do something that is universally recommended against? I mean really... what's wrong with going thru the stomach for a change. Sublingual seems to be safe. Are you sure you are not just kind of mentally addicted to being an alterna-freak?
I say, START with 15 or 20 mg oral, just to gauge your system's response patterns. Especially since 2C-E is one of the "weirder" feeling and reacting of drugs there is. If you are dissatisfied with then effects that way, try it one of the others some other time.
And DEFINITELY swallow the 2C-E. ALL reports and recommendations are that snorting 2C compounds is always quite risky. I would think that the same would be true for all "extra high speed routes of absorption" methods like rectal. I they they are just so stimulating that theres a dangerous risk of overwhelming your systems' ability to adjust and adapt in a safe way.
There will ALWAYS be other chances... why snort and do something that is universally recommended against? I mean really... what's wrong with going thru the stomach for a change. Sublingual seems to be safe. Are you sure you are not just kind of mentally addicted to being an alterna-freak?
I say, START with 15 or 20 mg oral, just to gauge your system's response patterns. Especially since 2C-E is one of the "weirder" feeling and reacting of drugs there is. If you are dissatisfied with then effects that way, try it one of the others some other time.
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Wayne Hoobler here:
have taken doses ranging from 30-50 mg most of the time when i get it, i feel as if it's more eloquent and poignant at these doses/ highest ive ever taken is about 120 mg perhaps a few mg less and was beyond all dimensions obviously, and haven't had any recurring problems or anything at all that would be attributed to this, to give you guys an idea of the side effects [if any] of taking high doses
have taken doses ranging from 30-50 mg most of the time when i get it, i feel as if it's more eloquent and poignant at these doses/ highest ive ever taken is about 120 mg perhaps a few mg less and was beyond all dimensions obviously, and haven't had any recurring problems or anything at all that would be attributed to this, to give you guys an idea of the side effects [if any] of taking high doses
DwayneHoover
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When I first tried it I did 15 and it wasnt very strong. But I did notice the beginnings of the "profound physical uncomfortableness" that many complain about.
Next time I did 20mg Benedryl (to block the side effects), then 10-15 minutes later 22mg 2C-E. I thought it was VERY smooth, comfortable, visual, euphoric, erotic, and visual. QUITE a change from the 15. I wonder if the Benedryl also amplified it a bit. If so, cool! I suggest trying this recipe... 30mg may well fell like it was 50X stronger... the dose/response curve of 2-E seems very non-linear
DwayneHoover
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(Umm.... no relative or "friend" of mine or recently released prison inmate of MY acquaintance, btw)...
30 is a VERY STRONG high dose. 120 would surely be a vast overdose of 2C-E. DO NOT go there. Perhaps Wayne had been given something else that was not really 2C-E? Or maybe foulism is unclear on exactly which compound Wayne is talking about? Not trying to talk trash to either of them, but I challenge anyone to find non-disastrous trip reports in that range either here in the trip report threads, or at Erowid, which probably has hundreds of them. If you can I will eat my virtual hat!
It's definitely been 2C-E from a few reliable vendors, but aside that I think I have an unusually high tolerance to phenethylamines and tryptamines to begin with. It might be an overdose, in the sense that one took some beyond their comfort zone but I didn't recognize any negative side effects save for high heart rate beat and occasional tight feeling of the chest, and tremors. Also the nausea. It was kind of frightening at first because of the anxiety but that eases out eventually. But yeah I'm guessing the toxicity level of 2C-E is pretty high. in massive doses, if any harm was done it isn't instantaneous at least to my knowledge. I'm sure if someone did more than 300mg they'd probably die, or something.
What would be the most recreational dosage?
I have 3 friends that wanna trip in NYE, one already 3 psychedelic experiences with 2cb and alex gray /hoffman blotter (think is a very recreative / light acid), another just tried a light dose of 2cb, and 3rd is totally inexperienced.
What would be the most fun?
I have 3 friends that wanna trip in NYE, one already 3 psychedelic experiences with 2cb and alex gray /hoffman blotter (think is a very recreative / light acid), another just tried a light dose of 2cb, and 3rd is totally inexperienced.
What would be the most fun?
tastethealex
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my first experience with 2c-e was a total of 40mg. Before this I had tried both 2C-T-7 and 2C-B from the 2C family. Now because of previous experienced I had a certain level of expectation.
At first I took 20mg (oral, cap) and after about an hour I began to notice the effects. Another hour or so went by and there wasn't a significant change. by hour 2 I felt I had reached its limit and that 20mg was too low of a dose. I then ate the other 20mg.
Luckily at the time I had been taking large amounts of psychedelics at a time and 40mg was just fine, at this point I was visually blown away. My headspace was very clear and I felt great. I was also at a party where I may have been able to distract myself from whatever discomforts I would have normally had.
a few months later I took a dose of 25mg. everything was going great till my friend who was not so experienced "lost his shit." He began looping very bad, walking/spinning in circles only presumed to be because he went to turn around and his loop was short enough he could never figure out if he did or not and so continued to keep turning. at one point he began yelling that he was on fire and that we were Jamaicans disguised as his friends and we had drugged him to get information out of him. at this point on he only spoke in korean. Because of all this I was easily able to push the trip to be very background and not much was felt.
A few months down the line I decided to take 22mg for a "mild" experience. even though this was the lowest dosage I had taken so far. I was the most blown away in this experience. visuals, body high, introspection, the works... The experience was almost unenjoyable since the body load was too much. I assumed this may be that it was a different more potent batch. I got the last stuff from a friend, this was from a vendor.
I began experimenting at the 15mg range trying to find better methods of ingestion to help lower the body load and transitional anxiety. at first I decided to take 10mg, then 5mg as soon as i began to notice effects. same body load, but easier transition. I tried 10mg, easy transition, much milder effects still too much of a body high.
I then tried smoking it first attempt was with foil at 5mg. this made my chest horribly uncomfortable for the entire duration. I felt confused. if there was any body high it was all hidden behind the pain in my chest. and i was back to normal in about 2 hours or so. I decided to try again a few days later, this time taking it up to 10mg and using a hollowed out lightbulb as a means to vaporize the substance. my chest still felt very uncomfortable, but it was not a pain this time. again with much confusion, little to no mental high and decent visuals. over all I felt smoking was plausible under the right circumstances, but over all just a waste.
my next attempt was 15mg dissolved into a 20oz bottle of green tea and drank over the course of about 1 hour. GREAT SUCCESS! the Body high was noticeable but not discomforting, mental high was great, and visuals were outstanding!
This method was tried again with 30mg of 2C-T-7 again with great success. However when I tried this with 30mg of 2C-B I was extremely overwhelmed to the point I would consider an OD. I could not move, open my eyes or listen to music or I would become nauseous because it was too much going on. even someone trying to talk to me overwhelmed me to the point of becoming nauseous. I'm not positive why this happened as I have taken up to 35mg of 2C-B in a cap and been just fine. This was the only time I had taken it in a liquid suspension.
I would recommend between 10-15mg, 10 for the inexperienced, maybe 15 for the one with previous experience.
At first I took 20mg (oral, cap) and after about an hour I began to notice the effects. Another hour or so went by and there wasn't a significant change. by hour 2 I felt I had reached its limit and that 20mg was too low of a dose. I then ate the other 20mg.
Luckily at the time I had been taking large amounts of psychedelics at a time and 40mg was just fine, at this point I was visually blown away. My headspace was very clear and I felt great. I was also at a party where I may have been able to distract myself from whatever discomforts I would have normally had.
a few months later I took a dose of 25mg. everything was going great till my friend who was not so experienced "lost his shit." He began looping very bad, walking/spinning in circles only presumed to be because he went to turn around and his loop was short enough he could never figure out if he did or not and so continued to keep turning. at one point he began yelling that he was on fire and that we were Jamaicans disguised as his friends and we had drugged him to get information out of him. at this point on he only spoke in korean. Because of all this I was easily able to push the trip to be very background and not much was felt.
A few months down the line I decided to take 22mg for a "mild" experience. even though this was the lowest dosage I had taken so far. I was the most blown away in this experience. visuals, body high, introspection, the works... The experience was almost unenjoyable since the body load was too much. I assumed this may be that it was a different more potent batch. I got the last stuff from a friend, this was from a vendor.
I began experimenting at the 15mg range trying to find better methods of ingestion to help lower the body load and transitional anxiety. at first I decided to take 10mg, then 5mg as soon as i began to notice effects. same body load, but easier transition. I tried 10mg, easy transition, much milder effects still too much of a body high.
I then tried smoking it first attempt was with foil at 5mg. this made my chest horribly uncomfortable for the entire duration. I felt confused. if there was any body high it was all hidden behind the pain in my chest. and i was back to normal in about 2 hours or so. I decided to try again a few days later, this time taking it up to 10mg and using a hollowed out lightbulb as a means to vaporize the substance. my chest still felt very uncomfortable, but it was not a pain this time. again with much confusion, little to no mental high and decent visuals. over all I felt smoking was plausible under the right circumstances, but over all just a waste.
my next attempt was 15mg dissolved into a 20oz bottle of green tea and drank over the course of about 1 hour. GREAT SUCCESS! the Body high was noticeable but not discomforting, mental high was great, and visuals were outstanding!
This method was tried again with 30mg of 2C-T-7 again with great success. However when I tried this with 30mg of 2C-B I was extremely overwhelmed to the point I would consider an OD. I could not move, open my eyes or listen to music or I would become nauseous because it was too much going on. even someone trying to talk to me overwhelmed me to the point of becoming nauseous. I'm not positive why this happened as I have taken up to 35mg of 2C-B in a cap and been just fine. This was the only time I had taken it in a liquid suspension.
I would recommend between 10-15mg, 10 for the inexperienced, maybe 15 for the one with previous experience.