Phenethylamines [2C-E Subthread] 2C-E Dosage and Methods of Administration
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porkstock
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i think most people would rate 2ce as (much) more painful to snort than DPT. i've never had DPT, but 2ce hurts like a bitch. i've only ever tried it once and it BURNS. i'm not a fan of snorting anything really though.
i've watched a friend snort 4-7mg 2ce (he loves to snort oxy) and he said it hurt like nothing else - and i could tell! but he did it several times more.
you could consider plugging it
or just man up and trip for 8 or so hours.
take a small oral dose?
Shambles
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I don't find snorting or plugging it significantly reduce the duration at all, myself. Snorting I found to have a pretty heavy bodyload and just felt icky - quite possibly due to spending the first hour or so with tears streaming down my face and in absolute agony from snorting it. Plugging is by far the best option for me - greatly reduced bodyload, comes on nice and quick (bit too quick for many - similar to snorting) and also only requires half the oral dose. All three methods last a minimum of 8 hours - often closer to 12 for me, although some of that is just the residual stimulation.
porkstock
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does anyone find with oral dosing, that it is better to take a booster dose for any reason?
if you were going to take X mg, would you take it all at once, or maybe take X-5mg, then 5mg later?
i would assume all at once, to flood your receptors.
but i was just wondering if anyone prefers to spread out the dosage. maybe it's better for less nausea/bodyload?
if you were going to take X mg, would you take it all at once, or maybe take X-5mg, then 5mg later?
i would assume all at once, to flood your receptors.
but i was just wondering if anyone prefers to spread out the dosage. maybe it's better for less nausea/bodyload?
greenmeanies
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while rectal admin reduces nausea somewhat for me, i would say YES the speed of comeup is correlated with nausea. (haven't tried this yet) if you do half your dose first, then wait an hour for the second half you'll probably reduce nausea/bodyload.
of course, spacing out the doses like this will extend the already long come-up and may make the bodyload take longer to go away.
for 2ce, i find the bodyload to start ~1hr after oral dosing, or ~15min after rectal. once the trip starts in full swing (~2-2.5hr after oral dosing or ~1hr after rectal) the bodyload is replaced with mild stimulation and mental euphoria.
of course, spacing out the doses like this will extend the already long come-up and may make the bodyload take longer to go away.
for 2ce, i find the bodyload to start ~1hr after oral dosing, or ~15min after rectal. once the trip starts in full swing (~2-2.5hr after oral dosing or ~1hr after rectal) the bodyload is replaced with mild stimulation and mental euphoria.
stormyweathers
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has anyone here tried sublingual administration?
i heard that it has a similar dose intensity but little to no nausea
i heard that it has a similar dose intensity but little to no nausea
love_sex_desire
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^^ someone mentioned that they put 2C-E in water, which they held under their mouth for I think 20 minutes before they spitted it out. Apparently there was some potency loss (maybe 20 mg felt like 15? can't remember) and nausea was reduced.
2C-E via IV for those who have thought about
Since 2C-E is new to me, I did my research and found that (of course) I should start small - VERY small - since my preferred method of ingestion is via IV.
Having been made FULLY AWARE OF THE DANGERS AND RAPIDITY OF ONSET, I prepared 2 mg in a 1 cc/mL rig, found a good vein and pushed the plunger home.
Taking care to NOT undo the tourniquet until the shot was fully in, I loosened it and began to count as I cleaned up.
15 seconds to FULL EFFECT.
DAMN!
WOW!
GREAT!
Great visuals both closed and open eye for 2 - 3 hours with a slightly speedy buzz
Easy come down.
OK.
Let's try it again after waiting 12 hours.
Second time, I increased to 6 mg after noting during the first experience that I could handle more.
Again, 15 seconds to FULL ONSET
<<WARNING! >>
If you are not an experienced tripper or do not fully know the inside of your head, DO NOT ADMINISTER VIA THIS METHOD as the effect is stunningly profound to the point of overwhelming.
Now. How to best describe what I experienced?
Uh, easy: Shuglin Scale ++++ no if's and's or but's about it.
WOW WOW WOW WOW!!!!!
Wow. Simply OUTSTANDING and a truly transcendental experience.
Frankly I'm still trying to sort it all out, but I know right now that I'm happier for trying this RC
Since 2C-E is new to me, I did my research and found that (of course) I should start small - VERY small - since my preferred method of ingestion is via IV.
Having been made FULLY AWARE OF THE DANGERS AND RAPIDITY OF ONSET, I prepared 2 mg in a 1 cc/mL rig, found a good vein and pushed the plunger home.
Taking care to NOT undo the tourniquet until the shot was fully in, I loosened it and began to count as I cleaned up.
15 seconds to FULL EFFECT.
DAMN!
WOW!
GREAT!
Great visuals both closed and open eye for 2 - 3 hours with a slightly speedy buzz
Easy come down.
OK.
Let's try it again after waiting 12 hours.
Second time, I increased to 6 mg after noting during the first experience that I could handle more.
Again, 15 seconds to FULL ONSET
<<WARNING! >>
If you are not an experienced tripper or do not fully know the inside of your head, DO NOT ADMINISTER VIA THIS METHOD as the effect is stunningly profound to the point of overwhelming.
Now. How to best describe what I experienced?
Uh, easy: Shuglin Scale ++++ no if's and's or but's about it.
WOW WOW WOW WOW!!!!!
Wow. Simply OUTSTANDING and a truly transcendental experience.
Frankly I'm still trying to sort it all out, but I know right now that I'm happier for trying this RC
Jesusgreen
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^ It's because you snorted 3mg. I remember my first time snorting 2C-E I snorted like 5mg and it didn't burn more than anything else I'd snorted before, I even posted on PD about how people exaggerated it.. You probably won't feel much/anything from snorting 3mg. I'd start at 5mg - that should be quite a light experience, then work your weigh up to 7-10mg for a stronger more visual experience.
Now I've snorted 30mg and trust me it burns haha. It's most definitely worth it imo though
To those who haven't tried snorting it, I recommend it. Just have an additional hour to spare as it's true the first hour can be pretty uncomfortable - within an hour though - if you have some nice music going and a comfortable setting, you'll love the next 6-7 hours. If you're worried about the pain, try plugging, the dosage and duration are similar but without the burn - it's just a little less practical to do in some situations.
perfection5712
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I sniffed a line of 2ce , and what with being inexperienced with psychedelics and therefor such small lines i dont know what the dosage was i think someone said it was about 16mg (someone else sorted it) i found it stung , but not as much as everyone made out it would , certainly no more than mdma.
i had serious gut rot my stomach was in knots, no vomiting or wanting to for that matter. Major bodyload, i had the shakes and felt very, very cold and some urinary retention. No euphoria, no pretty colours , just saw six of everything (like a fly eye lense) that was shaking and so got a terrible head ache. This went on for a good 12 hours.
I sniffed a line of 2ce , and what with being inexperienced with psychedelics and therefor such small lines i dont know what the dosage was i think someone said it was about 16mg (someone else sorted it) i found it stung , but not as much as everyone made out it would , certainly no more than mdma.
i had serious gut rot my stomach was in knots, no vomiting or wanting to for that matter. Major bodyload, i had the shakes and felt very, very cold and some urinary retention. No euphoria, no pretty colours , just saw six of everything (like a fly eye lense) that was shaking and so got a terrible head ache. This went on for a good 12 hours.
MagickalKat777
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Are you sure that was 2C-E? 2C-E has consistently caused some of the most intense psychedelic experiences I've had... its up there with LSD in intensity... though its fairly dark...
Jesusgreen
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3mg is a very small dose, that'd work out to say 6mg oral - and also since you said "roughly", I'm assuming you eyeballed (bad idea) - which means it could be at little as 1 or 2mg.
I'd suggest these kind of dosages, from my experience:
-Oral-
Noticeable but very weak effects, general stimulation, not much else: 7-10mg
Mild effects, euphoria, and light visuals if you're sensitive: 11-14mg
Medium strength trip, euphoria, light to medium visuals, some mental confusion: 15-19mg
Strong trip, plenty of euphoria, lots of melting/morphing visuals, more mental confusion: 20-25mg
Very strong trip, body load, crazy OEV and CEVs, some intense mindfuck: 26mg+
-Nasal-
Threshold effects: 4-5mg
Light trip: 6-7mg
Medium trip: 8-10mg
Strong trip: 11-13mg
Very strong trip: 15mg+
Oral duration is around 9-12 hours, nasal is between 3 and 8 hours depending on dosage in my experience, but usually somewhere around 6-7.
It sounds right to me. My visuals with 2C-E vary from trip to trip, but I've definitely had several trips with higher nasal doses where there was a lack of colours or morphing etc, but there were a TON of tracers, literally when my friend was walking I'd see 3-4 of him at once, was pretty weird hah. Other times I've had few/no tracers but tons of colours and overlays of patterns across my vision, melting, morphing, etc. As for him mentioning no euphoria, that does sound weird to me - as 2C-E is extremely euphoric for me, especially when combined with good electronic music, but I do know plenty of people who find it very neutral with no euphoria, so I guess it's different for different people.
MagickalKat777
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Next time I do 2C-E, I'm going to plug it... I won't ever put that evil chemical up my nose again. CAUSTIC BURN! Although nowhere near as bad as AMT... I was putting water up my nose for a half hour after snorting AMT...
Does plugging 2C-E increase the duration, reduce the body load (I can handle everything but the stimulation so if its more stimulating this route, someone please tell me), and massively increase the potency? I don't want to plug 15mg of 2C-E only to find out that its equivalent to 30mg oral (which I've done).
Does plugging 2C-E increase the duration, reduce the body load (I can handle everything but the stimulation so if its more stimulating this route, someone please tell me), and massively increase the potency? I don't want to plug 15mg of 2C-E only to find out that its equivalent to 30mg oral (which I've done).
Jesusgreen
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I can't say for sure as I've yet to try it myself, but other people report that it's similar in potency and duration to nasal, just without any nausea/bodyload (if you get any from nasal) and no burning nose.
MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
Sounds odd that rectal admin would reduce the duration... It increases it for most 2Cs in my experience... Hmm.
changerofways
Bluelighter
In many circumstances, I personally LOVE snorting 2c-e. ive railed up to 40-50 mg at a time, I love the speed of onset, it just blows your mind to shit in less than 5 minutes!
-and yea thats not recommended for anyone new to the compound or who are sensitive to its effects. ive taken over 100 mg orally, and snorting 40+ seems to match up to that in intensity, and is good when I need to cut the time of the trip.
-and yea thats not recommended for anyone new to the compound or who are sensitive to its effects. ive taken over 100 mg orally, and snorting 40+ seems to match up to that in intensity, and is good when I need to cut the time of the trip.
perfection5712
Greenlighter
well i guess im not , ive never done it before but i cant imagine why my mate would tell me it was when it wasnt , especially as i wasnt after anything specific
MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
Its possible it was just too low of a dose... That bodyload sounds a lot nastier than it should be though.
perfection5712
Greenlighter
A im a her not a him , but yes the tracers i had that only more like 6 of each and it just gave me a head ache , i have also heard that with higher doses or perhaps lower tolerances that there can be less colours mophing etc
MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
Ah, you're a female. I've noticed that most females don't react to 2C-E very well. 2C-I tends to work better with female chemistry. This is my own personal knowledge from about 30 people I know personally. 70% of the girls don't enjoy 2C-E but love 2C-I...